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SteveH
07-06-2009, 12:03 PM
I blew up the inexpensive sheet metal 54mm (2 1/8") hub socket that I bought many years ago at the Toyota dealer.

Is the best bet to just buy a Craftsman 12 point socket in that size, or does anyone on this list sell/have a better solution? Is a Craftsman socket too fat to fit inside the hub cavity?

thanks,

Steve

subzali
07-06-2009, 12:15 PM
Marlin Crawler and others sell a nice 54mm socket.

PabloCruise
07-06-2009, 12:31 PM
NAPA should have a reasonable stamped socket - thicker than the cheapies...

DaveInDenver
07-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Marlin Crawler and others sell a nice 54mm socket.
I have Marlin's socket, quality tool, worth the money. Nice thing about it over a Craftsman socket (besides that it's less than 1/2 the price) is it uses a 1/2" drive and not a 3/4". Another option is a Chinese-made 54mm socket from Harbor Freight.

SteveH
07-06-2009, 01:23 PM
Excellent suggestions - I hadn't thought of most of them. Sears socket is 12 point, which I'm not wild about, either. Thanks again!

corsair23
07-06-2009, 01:26 PM
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/products_drivetrain_driveshaft.htm

If the last one lasted many years...

Shark Bait
07-06-2009, 02:22 PM
I got one from CDan. I'd give my old one(s) away, if anyone wants them. :D

subzali
07-06-2009, 03:49 PM
Jeff, thanks for posting up Christo's. I knew he sold them, but didn't find it with a cursory review of his website. If it's made by OTC tools it's probably what would be called the official Toyota SST.

Red_Chili
07-06-2009, 05:40 PM
Excellent suggestions - I hadn't thought of most of them. Sears socket is 12 point, which I'm not wild about, either. Thanks again!
12 point is fine for that application, FWIW. You are putting max ~40-45 lb./ft. on them. If you find a cheap 12 pt. buy it. If not...

I took a cheapie and ringed it with 1/8" flat stock when I was teaching myself how to weld. It's held up mah-velously.

TIMZTOY
07-07-2009, 10:32 AM
trail gear sells one with a 3/8 drive instead of 1/2

http://www.trail-gear.com/knuckle-service.html

Uncle Ben
07-07-2009, 10:57 AM
trail gear sells one with a 3/8 drive instead of 1/2

http://www.trail-gear.com/knuckle-service.html

Too bad it's at Gieger Mart! :rant:

nakman
07-07-2009, 10:59 AM
12 point is fine for that application, FWIW. You are putting max ~40-45 lb./ft. on them. If you find a cheap 12 pt. buy it. If not...



actually 43 to set the preload, then 47 on the lock nut. :D :bolt:

TIMZTOY
07-07-2009, 05:55 PM
Too bad it's at Gieger Mart! :rant:

???

Red_Chili
07-07-2009, 06:44 PM
actually 43 to set the preload, then 47 on the lock nut. :D :bolt:
You read your FSM... and I'll read mine... :p:

:lmao:

I was one to forswear TrailGear. But since Marlin has moved on about issues that divided them, and quite a number of folks have gotten good service and good products, it no longer stops me from buying there. From believing all the claims... yes. But I may or may not buy there, it all depends.

Rzeppa
07-08-2009, 04:59 PM
I've got a cheapie from $OR I'm not too keen on, but after having borrowed BVB's genuine Toyota SST I would definitely recommend the latter.

SteveH
08-05-2009, 12:59 PM
I finally bought an OTC sheet metal (thick) spindle nut wrench today at a bearing supplier. OTC Part number 1901. It's 2 3/32, so 1/32 smaller than the fairly sloppy-fitting Craftsman 12 point I borrowed. $31.50 + tax, so not real cheap. Also, it's 3/4" drive. Lifetime warranty. OTC does not make a 2 1/8", so that's not a choice. See it at: http://www.mytoolstore.com/otc/1901.html

sleeoffroad
08-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Uhm, could have bought the rear OTC 54mm Socket from us for 29.95 :D

Rzeppa
08-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Uhm, could have bought the rear OTC 54mm Socket from us for 29.95 :D

Rear? Is there a front and rear socket? :confused:

Red_Chili
08-06-2009, 07:46 AM
Not on a 40... :lmao:

My 4Runner, however, needs one!

FWIW, I have found Christo's pricing (most recently on ARB parts) to be quite competitive.
(shameless plug)

subzali
08-06-2009, 08:33 AM
It's for the rear full floating axles on 80 series trucks as well right? And possibly for FF 60 and 70 series? I guess I don't know what size nut the FF rear on a 45 needs, but I'm sure Jeff knows ;)

sleeoffroad
08-06-2009, 08:43 AM
Rear? Is there a front and rear socket? :confused:

Front.,

SteveH
08-06-2009, 08:55 AM
I had to use a 2' section of pipe on an 18" long breaker bar this morning to bust loose the locknut on the FJ40 wheel bearings. The OTC socket survived nicely. I sure like 6-point stuff at a time like this. You gotta wonder what banana last serviced the front end?

RicardoJM
08-06-2009, 09:29 AM
I had to use a 2' section of pipe on an 18" long breaker bar this morning to bust loose the locknut on the FJ40 wheel bearings. The OTC socket survived nicely. I sure like 6-point stuff at a time like this. You gotta wonder what banana last serviced the front end?

Wow, thinking about the tightness you mention reminded me of an issue I encountered with grooves in the claw washer. You'll want to check the claw washer for grooves. I had grooves on both sides and I could not get the pre-load into specification. After getting new claw washers everything worked out smooth. Here is a picture of the grooves (http://risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=7458&page=5&highlight=disc+brake+conversion) I had and yes they were grooved on both sides.

nakman
08-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Well on the outer nut I'd probably rather be too tight than too loose, though that does sound awful tight! :eek:

And I'm kind of over re-using those star washers, at only $2 each they seem well worth it to toss in with the rest of the parts you're doing, particularly since I've found they tend to skew your outer nut torque no matter how flat you think you pounded them.. so I could see how the last guy chose to give it an extra nudge.

SteveH
08-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Thanks for the warning! I bought a new washer and a buddy of mine just today warned me of using a badly grooved washer.

Given the neglected most old FJ front ends see, I'm always surprised to see how nice things are in the average 'cruiser front end. I can just imagine a Dana 30 in a neglected old Jeep or Bronco...

Red_Chili
08-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Oh, you don't see many of those.






Because they tend to fall off... :lmao:

Rzeppa
08-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Not on a 40... :lmao: A non-USA 40 with a FF uses a hex nut on the rear. My non-USA 45 uses a 54mm, but there may be others out there with a different size?