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ShottsCruisers
07-15-2009, 04:17 PM
Hello Risng Sun members. I figured you-all would be the best group for me to ask of this question.

4 AZ families are hitting Ouray in about 2-weeks in our three 80's and my 100. None have ever done Governor Basin by Yankee Boy Basin. I'm intrigued because everyone says it's gorgeous and difficult. What' I'm confused about however is the variance in reports from sites about difficulty. Here's what I've found:

http://www.securez57.com/smallBiz/soajeep01/6rz9n9jigkn.html

An "easy trek" though from 1998:

http://www.4x4now.com/a4f98a.htm

2004...narrow and treacherous and not recommended:

http://www.jeffblaylock.com/window/2004/06/governor-basin.php

Lots of pics here...mentions of shelf roads...sure looks like we can do it.

http://mycolorado.org/images/governor_basin/index.htm

There is an optional spur loop in Governor and maybe that's where the worst stuff is. ???

So what do you all know? Too crazy and dangerous or should we plan on it?

THANKS!

Darren
07-15-2009, 05:20 PM
For virtually anyone who has experience on a 4WD road, this road isn't anything significant. If you were referring to the Sidney Basin section I have listed on my site, it's not difficult, either; just less traveled. It's less "difficult" than the Governor route which has just but one short rocky section and a shelf section. Like any road in the San Juans, it's all about the views. You're good to go.

wesintl
07-15-2009, 05:26 PM
Man, I love your pics Darren! I peruse your npcolorado.net when I can.

Keep up the good work! :thumb:

ShottsCruisers
07-15-2009, 05:26 PM
Awesome. That's funny that I had found your pictures earlier and you're a RS Member. We'll plan on Governor then. Always good to do something new!

Darren
07-15-2009, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Wes!

That's funny that I had found your pictures earlier and you're a RS Member.

Though not too active, as you can tell. I try to stay out of their hair! I saw your post via traffic to my Governor page. You'll enjoy the road, and your trip is dead-center of wildflower peak bloom.

corsair23
07-15-2009, 05:50 PM
GREAT info!!

I love the Yankee Boy Basin area and have stayed away from Governor Basin after reading that it is a dangerous/treacherous road...Sounds like those reports are just to scare people away from a beautiful area :D

Nay
07-15-2009, 07:24 PM
I don't think there is anything in the San Juans that rates as "difficult", the one obstacle on Poughkeepsie Gulch being a possible exception when it is wet. There is plenty of "mistake and die" stuff, though :hill:

I'd be checking snow reports when making plans. Unless it is plowed (yes, plowed) some of the higher elevation routes may not even open this year.

wesintl
07-15-2009, 07:33 PM
I betcha an 80 will make it fine.. in a 100 it's probably questionable

:tongue2::bolt:

corsair23
07-15-2009, 11:32 PM
I betcha an 80 will make it fine.. in a 100 it's probably questionable

:tongue2::bolt:

:lmao:

Three Wheel Ben
07-16-2009, 06:06 AM
I betcha an 80 will make it fine.. in a 100 it's probably questionable

:tongue2::bolt:

uh oh!

x2:lmao::lmao:

powderpig
07-16-2009, 09:32 AM
Especially with John driving it white knuckled:D

ShottsCruisers
07-16-2009, 09:45 AM
Especially with John driving it white knuckled:D

Heck, I don't worry about those dings any more. Hell, I rolled my LX450 last winter though it got lucky body-wise.

ShottsCruisers
07-16-2009, 09:46 AM
I saw your post via traffic to my Governor page. You'll enjoy the road, and your trip is dead-center of wildflower peak bloom.

Darren: You think Governor is one of those "make a mistake and die" roads? I want to be sure because I'm the guy who is suggesting we all do it. :)

Darren
07-16-2009, 01:24 PM
If you make a mistake on this road, that means you aren't paying attention and probably shouldn't be driving anyway! Honestly, if you know how to drive, and are comfortable with Colorado's high shelf roads, there's nothing to worry about.

Nay has a good point regarding snow conditions. This is one of the few roads they don't plow, and just let it melt out naturally. I believe this year's snowpack ended up being right around average, or a little bit under, and it's usually fully open by July 20. With last year's record snow, I'm sure it was well into August. It wasn't open when I was there at the end of July. It looks like it's not fully open right now (click here) (http://soajeep.com/custom1.shtml), but I would expect it to be open when you're here. You can try giving SOA (the linked tour company, or any of the other area tour outfits) a call for updates as your time nears to see if they know anything else.

ShottsCruisers
07-16-2009, 01:32 PM
If you make a mistake on this road, that means you aren't paying attention and probably shouldn't be driving anyway! Honestly, if you know how to drive, and are comfortable with Colorado's high shelf roads, there's nothing to worry about.

Gotcha. So you re-confirm what you've said before. Thanks for the reassuarance. :)

We'll plan on it for sure and hope the snow is gone!

Bighead
07-16-2009, 07:35 PM
Man, I love your pics Darren! I peruse your npcolorado.net when I can.

Keep up the good work! :thumb:

X2...Darren's site has been in my favorite's list for many years. My wife uses it as a reference for figuring out different photo shots. And a nice guy to boot.

ShottsCruisers
07-17-2009, 11:57 AM
For virtually anyone who has experience on a 4WD road, this road isn't anything significant. If you were referring to the Sidney Basin section I have listed on my site, it's not difficult, either; just less traveled. It's less "difficult" than the Governor route which has just but one short rocky section and a shelf section. Like any road in the San Juans, it's all about the views. You're good to go.

Hey Darren. Where's the Sydney Basin stuff on your site? Thanks!

Corbet
07-19-2009, 01:54 PM
"I betcha an 80 will make it fine.. in a 100 it's probably questionable"

x 3
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

But seriously I would not worry too much about snow, it was light this winter in the San Juans

Darren
08-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Hey Darren. Where's the Sydney Basin stuff on your site? Thanks!

Sorry for the delay here, but I just got back from taking a two-week vacation. I'm sure you've already left, but if not, my Sidney Basin road pictures start here (http://www.mycolorado.org/images/governor_basin/pages/188-8890_IMG.htm) in my Governor Basin gallery. Man, my trails section needs a lot of work. I can't even stand to look at them any more as they're so poor. Oh well.

ShottsCruisers
08-04-2009, 09:47 AM
Thanks Darren for the Sydney link. Thanks x2 for the info on Governor. Based on your local eval of the trail our group decided to go for it. It was a HUGE sucess for 2 reasons.

1. The area is amazingly beautiful
2. It was a new trail that nobody in the group had ever done

The info we got in Ouray was also correct in that the wildflowers in Governor were coming in late this year. It sure was green though the flowers were in their early stages.

We will not skip this trail ever (if open) on future visits!

Oh, and for the others, our 100 did make it and so did Chris'. :eek:

http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/609098038_XU98W-XL.jpg
http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/609098168_Znrgc-XL.jpg
http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/609096786_9GZLT-XL.jpg

FJBRADY
08-04-2009, 10:11 AM
Love the second pic......I will be definitely checking out Gov. Basin Ouray 09.

Thanks for sharing.

ShottsCruisers
08-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Check them all out:

http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/gallery/9090538_MiFnu#609093238_EQX8h

FJBRADY
08-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Very very nice....looking forward to this trail. Thanks for proving a 100 can make it:thumb:

Darren
08-04-2009, 11:34 AM
Good deal, and glad to hear you enjoyed it. I'm not sure what the Ouray folks may have been talking about regarding the flowers, as they were/are out at the same time they always are. This year was definitely a sub-par year for them throughout the region, which was surprising to me.

Real nice set of pictures.

wesintl
08-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Check them all out:

http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/gallery/9090538_MiFnu#609093238_EQX8h

Nice.. I need to make a run up to governor

ShottsCruisers
08-04-2009, 02:30 PM
The BEST wildflowers of the week were along Ouray County Road #14. Above 11-12,000 feet they were amazing. The views were killer as well. We'd never been on this road and while it's easy it should not be missed.

Check out the second half of the pics on the link below and then on to the next page as well. What a place!

http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/gallery/9078350_WJydL#P-2-25

http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/610943770_yXWrf-XL.jpg
http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/610957524_LPZzo-XL.jpg
http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/photos/610943901_hXdyE-XL.jpg