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Swoop
08-04-2009, 10:52 AM
Hey guys, I started to get into a discussion on sliders in another thread I created on fog lights, but wanted to keep it on-topic. So, I'm starting it again in a new thread only about sliders.

First off, I don't know how to weld at all and heard it was expensive to get all the equipment ($1,000-$2,000?) If it's anything like using soldier on a circuit board, but on a bigger scale, then maybe I could pick it up if it's not over the top to buy the initial equipment.

So, I found this thread (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=8249&highlight=4runner+sliders)in my search on "sliders" and I like certain aspects of the sliders from various pictures in that thread.

For example, I like the idea of a completely flat and solid slider, but also like the idea of having a ever-so-slight step up bar to be able to access the rooftop for cargo, bikes, washing, etc.

The sliders which protrude a lot seem to be cool but I see their cross support beams (like the maroon Landcruiser(?) (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showpost.php?p=86706&postcount=3)with the pink elephant logo on bumper) potentially catching on smaller rocks or the tips of boulders, etc. Does this pose a problem for people? Seems like a rock would slide down a children's slide better than a ladder, which is the analogy I think of here. ;)

I also like the sliders that come up and around the side (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showpost.php?p=86714&postcount=10) (red Runner) of the 4Runner to add more protection to the other areas of the body; not just the immediate sides between the wheel wells and then the front and back lights.

So, I do see how making your own sliders would be ideal.

So what am I looking at for getting started? Does anyone offer custom-made sliders as a paid service? What do you guys recommend?

As always, thanks for your help.

Seldom Seen
08-04-2009, 12:27 PM
For 3rd Gen 'Runners, no need to look any further than our Russian friends at IRBIS OFFROAD (http://irbisoffroad.com/sliders.asp)

Red_Chili
08-04-2009, 12:38 PM
If on the south side, talk to Dave Rios at General Air on Santa Fe just north of downtown Littleton, and tell him I sent you. Tell him you want to learn to weld, and what budget systems does he have. He will take care of you.

You are welcome to come over anytime to see my setup, and to look closely at what I have built (I have the red Runner, aka Red Chili, as well as a 1997 green 4Runner with basic sliders I made). You won't have $2K in it when you are done... but you will pay that much to have others do it.

Jacket
08-04-2009, 12:42 PM
First off - thanks for resurrecting last year's Holy Cross thread! That was a great day!

In many cases, the slider design is about personal preference, how much protection you want, and if you need it to function as a step. A design that includes the second, outside rail provides more side angle rocker/door protection, like in the case where you slide off of rock sideways and into another rock. And as you've seen, the slider can be effective parallel with the ground, which makes it more functional as a step, but also more likely to catch a rock. So then you can angle that second rail up toward the rocker so that it tucks into the body more, which makes it less functional as a step, but better for the combination of protection and tightness. In any case, if you have a second rail, the cross supports are necessary to maintain uniform strength across the tube.

If you are looking for a local, custom welding job, maybe Solid Rock Off Road (SROR) or Irbis off Road (http://irbisoffroad.com/sliders.asp) or Slee Off Road (http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/4runner_sliders.htm)? They're active with Rising Sun. There are also some off the shelf options that ship either weld-on or bolt-on, like Stubbs Welding (http://www.stubbswelding.com/rocksliders.htm) or Demello Off Road (http://www.demello-offroad.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=28_49).

Squishy!
08-04-2009, 04:08 PM
I second General Air on Sante Fe. They are great with customer service and will keep you as a lifetime customer.

4901 S Rio Grande St
Littleton, CO 80120-1032

(303) 797-0204

Bighead
08-04-2009, 07:26 PM
A quick plug for Christo's 4Runner sliders (http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/4runner_sliders.htm) as an off-the-shelf option. I have had them on my 4Runner for a long while and they have been bombproof.

coloradobound
08-04-2009, 11:50 PM
A quick plug for Christo's 4Runner sliders (http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/4runner_sliders.htm) as an off-the-shelf option. I have had them on my 4Runner for a long while and they have been bombproof.

Slee's are awsome. I have them on my Tacoma, and I love the fact they are completely bolt on (the 4Runner ones dont look completely bolt on though). I've seen where others weld on sliders have deflected when taking a hit, where mine have been COMPLETELY solid and not moved.:thumb:

Red_Chili
08-05-2009, 10:40 AM
Roger Brown made my sliders (which I have since modified to fit my other mods). They are bombproof, work great as a step AND for rock protection without getting hung up, and come either bolt on or weld on, your choice. Mine are welded on. There are lots of options, so they are nearly custom.

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/RockSliderZ.shtml

Swoop
08-05-2009, 03:28 PM
These are all great sources and good info. I really appreciate it.

Is there any real advantage to welding to the frame versus bolt-ons?

What's the minimum thickness one should get? 2"?

Also, tell me about deflection. Is this looking at which direction the SUV will go when on a rock?

Thanks!

Swoop
08-05-2009, 03:33 PM
...You are welcome to come over anytime to see my setup, and to look closely at what I have built (I have the red Runner, aka Red Chili, as well as a 1997 green 4Runner with basic sliders I made). You won't have $2K in it when you are done... but you will pay that much to have others do it.

I just may take you up on that sometime. :)

Like the Red Chili - sweet ride.