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Air Randy
10-05-2009, 11:02 AM
A few months ago there was a thread on here about the Tata diesel 4x4 trucks coming to the US from India. When we were driving back from Moab last week I saw 2 of them driving in-line on I-70. They were both white, had Michigan plates, and placards in the rear windows that said "Test Vehicle".

Those suckers are tiny, like the size of a Suzuki Samurai.

MDH33
10-05-2009, 11:05 AM
Were they Tata, or Mahindra? I think the thread was about the Mahindra trucks. I saw one in Breckinridge the day of the 40's Run. Looked :cool: .

DaveInDenver
10-05-2009, 11:05 AM
Are you talking about the Mahindra pickups that supposed to start selling next year? I understood them to be roughly similar to my Hilux in size.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/mahindra.jpg

MDH33
10-05-2009, 11:18 AM
from ExPo

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e20120a586033c970b-800wi

Hopefully ARB comes out with a new bumper quickly. ;)

theboomboom
10-05-2009, 11:30 AM
The pic Martin just posted is supposedly us-spec. I was very excited about these trucks until I saw that! They absolutely neudered them. No more external bed hooks, f/r bumpers are fugly (supposedly so they meet dot regulations) and the interior appears dated in a bad way.
thumbs down :(

wesintl
10-05-2009, 11:34 AM
holy front end ugly..

Bobzooki
10-05-2009, 11:43 AM
holy front end ugly..

Looks like a Daewoo gone horribly wrong. :eek:

wesintl
10-05-2009, 11:46 AM
Looks like a Daewoo gone horribly wrong. :eek:

coupled with a Daewoo that was never right to begin with in terms of looks.:eek:

Red_Chili
10-05-2009, 11:48 AM
Just needs a lot of gold baubles and flags and stuff and it would rock.





In some parts of the world.

Bobzooki
10-05-2009, 11:57 AM
That pic looks like a quad cab (you can fit four famished Indians in it), with a three foot by three foot box in the back. Estimated payload: 250 pounds, including passengers and fuel.

MDH33
10-05-2009, 12:01 PM
I kind of like it. The bumper would need replacing, put something other than 26" tires on it, a couple more antennas, some gold baubles and flags like Red Chili suggested... :thumb:

Red_Chili
10-05-2009, 12:10 PM
Or you could slam it. Then put some itty bitty but very wide tires on it. Oh yeah baby.

wesintl
10-05-2009, 12:11 PM
are you sure it's not the 2010 4runner? :lmao:

MDH33
10-05-2009, 12:20 PM
Here we go, I chopped an ARB and some bigger tires on it. :hill:

http://mdhuber.smugmug.com/photos/671188026_BmPHN-O.jpg

DaveInDenver
10-05-2009, 12:27 PM
I kind of like it.
Same here, I am hoping they show up in 2010 like anticipated. The downside is they are automatic tranny only AFAIK. I know nothing else about it, cost, etc. Supposedly turbo diesel and get 35 MPG.

MDH33
10-05-2009, 12:31 PM
Same here, I am hoping they show up in 2010 like anticipated. The downside is they are automatic tranny only AFAIK. I know nothing else about it, cost, etc. Supposedly turbo diesel and get 35 MPG.

I heard close to 30K for the quad cab. some specs:

The key features of the Mahindra four-door truck are as follows: 2.2L clean-burning, fuel efficient four-cylinder Common Rail diesel engine, best in class payload of up to 2,633 lbs, hauls 1.32 tons, six-speed automatic transmission, electronic stability control and AM/FM/CD/USB audio system with MP3 playback, SD card slot and iPod adapter. It seats five people and is equipped with 4-wheel ABS brakes and has a (Edit: 58.6-inch) bed length.

DaveInDenver
10-05-2009, 12:34 PM
I heard close to 30K for the quad cab. some specs:

The key features of the Mahindra four-door truck are as follows: 2.2L clean-burning, fuel efficient four-cylinder Common Rail diesel engine, best in class payload of up to 2,633 lbs, hauls 1.32 tons, six-speed automatic transmission, electronic stability control and AM/FM/CD/USB audio system with MP3 playback, SD card slot and iPod adapter. It seats five people and is equipped with 4-wheel ABS brakes and has a (Edit: 58.6-inch) bed length.
OK, $30K, eh? Yeah, nope. Don't care about stability control, iPod adapter, blah, blah. I want my truck with a diesel, fewer rattles and warranty would be nice. Why is it so hard to grasp? I would pay $20K for vinyl mat, 5 speed, diesel, AM/FM radio...

LETSROLL
10-05-2009, 03:17 PM
I wonder how they would look if you swapped out the bumbers for ARB, Slee or some custom one-off?

Uncle Ben
10-05-2009, 03:26 PM
I wonder how they would look if you swapped out the bumbers for ARB, Slee or some custom one-off?

http://earthquakefacts.net/pics/Hanshin-Awaji-Earthquake.jpg

MDH33
10-05-2009, 03:43 PM
I wonder how they would look if you swapped out the bumbers for ARB, Slee or some custom one-off?

See post #14 above. ;)

Jacket
08-23-2010, 10:09 AM
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/08/breaking-mahindra-receives-epa-certification-to-sell-diesel-pickups-in-the-us.html


Indian automaker Mahindra & Mahindra has received official certification from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency that allows its compact diesel pickups to be sold in the U.S.

"The EPA just certified Mahindra," an EPA representative confirmed to PickupTrucks.com this morning. "It's for their diesel pickup for the 2011 model year."

Emissions certification was one of largest hurdles facing Mahindra and its American distributor, Global Vehicles USA. It became a point of contention between the two companies after numerous delays launching the truck in the U.S. Mahindra and GV USA are currently in litigation over the delays.

"We're very excited about getting certification," said Max Butler, vice president of marketing for Global Vehicles USA. "Our dealers are excited as well. This is great news."

Mahindra TR20 and TR40 pickups reportedly will be offered in two cab configurations: a two-door regular cab and a four-door crew cab. Both will use a slightly modified version of Mahindra's mHawk 2.2-liter inline-four-cylinder diesel engine that uses diesel exhaust fluid (urea) selective catalytic reduction to maintain emissions compliance. It's expected to have fuel economy ratings as high as 30 mpg and 1.3-ton hauling capability. Pricing is expected to start around $22,000.

simps80
08-23-2010, 10:12 AM
30mpg and 1.3 ton capacity!

hot damn

wesintl
08-23-2010, 11:04 AM
OME suspension available?

theboomboom
08-23-2010, 11:08 AM
OME suspension available?

Negative, i remember reading somewhere ARB had no plans currently to support these trucks in the US. They've been in Australia for a while though and some of them are kitted up nicely with bullbars, "ute" beds, etc. I think one of these built up with a lift, tall skinny tires, snorkel, and winch bumper would make a cool 70-series wannabe.

wesintl
08-23-2010, 11:14 AM
so what were people lifting them with?

nakman
08-23-2010, 11:21 AM
Are they 4WD?

wesintl
08-23-2010, 11:44 AM
I believe both 2wd and 4wd

Bruce Miller
08-23-2010, 12:19 PM
Is the diesel a turbo? No manual transmission option?

Jacket
08-23-2010, 12:45 PM
No turbo and no MT - only a 6 spd automatic is being advertised. The latter is a bit surprising - I would have expected a manual transmission option given the rest of the package.

I also saw the specs for the SUV version. 106" wheelbase, 4 door, same 4 cylinder CRD, coil sprung rear (all have torsion bar IFS up front), and it looked a bit like a Montero.

wesintl
08-23-2010, 12:50 PM
Interesting the 2.2l they list on the site is no turbo. I've seen advertisements for a 2.5L which has a turbo in AUS.

Bruce Miller
08-23-2010, 01:55 PM
It is a 4 cylinder turbo diesel, probably had to be a turbo to pass emissions. Also, 140 HP and 236 ft.lbs of torque compared to the Tacoma at 265 HP and 300 ft.lbs of torque.

corsair23
08-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Saw a Suzuki Equator the other day...I had to do a double take as I never knew Suzuki made such a vehicle :hill:

SteveH
08-23-2010, 03:45 PM
I think the Equator is a rebadged Nissan pickup. The rear fenders and doors give away the heritage.

I think the argument against the Mahindra will be that for $30K, you could buy a sweet, 1-2 year old Toyota, and have a truck with a proven heritage, track record, and resale value. Kinda the thing Consumer Reports said about Hyundais and Daewoos, years ago - buy a 2 year old Honda Accord instead.

I can't wait to see what the Super Duty Ford folks say about the Mahindra in the various forums. It won't be pretty.