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Mendocino
11-23-2009, 11:36 AM
We need to buy a new TV and was wondering what recommendations you guys have. I want a wall mountable system that is HD ready. Based on my limited research I need a 1080p Plasma or LCD. I am not a gamer and the TV will go in a room that is pretty bright. Also, I really watch very little TV. My kids will use it for movies and the :Princess: watches the occasional show. I really only watch Bloomberg:rolleyes:.

In order to fill that space effectively I think I need a 46" to 50" model. Does anyone have any suggestions on plasma vs LCD and/or brand recommendations?

:cheers:

RockRunner
11-23-2009, 11:39 AM
Vizio all the way if money is a factor, if not Pioneer or Samsung.

jettaglxdriver
11-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Just get a 1080P LCD or LED don't get Plasma. Vizio is really good, I have a 48" Sharp I got on Black Friday last year and love it. This is the time to buy for sure. Sears last year was giving their Black Friday prices all day Friday and you could pick up out of stock TV's on Monday but still get the good price.

Mendocino
11-23-2009, 11:45 AM
Any comments on LG? What about wall mounts? I need a swing out wall mount and saw them at Costco yesterday for $199:eek:, whish seemed pretty expensive.

Hulk
11-23-2009, 12:35 PM
I love my Mitsubishi LCD but I probably wouldn't recommend it. I had the panel replaced twice in the first year -- black lines down the screen. I've now had it about 2 years, and it's been flawless since the second panel replacement.

I went LCD over plasma for a few reasons:

1. No burn-in risk. We like to play video games at my house.
2. Matte surface rather than glossy. We have a window right behind the couch, so a less reflective surface was highly desirable.
3. Supposedly, plasma doesn't have good longevity at higher altitudes. They do make a "high altitude" plasma set, but it's spendy.

I bought my wall mount at Wal-Mart, cheap.

FJBRADY
11-23-2009, 12:41 PM
LCD definitely. They run cooler than Plasma and don't suffer burn in like Plasma's do at this altitude.

I have two Vizios because of price 32, 720p and a 46 1080p, but recommend Samsung to clients due to the number of inputs.

SteveH
11-23-2009, 12:41 PM
No problems with my LG 42" LCD 1080p. Sears made me a rockin' deal when they were out of the lower-line LG model at their doorbuster sale. Realize that TVs are very competitive but wall mounts are not - so it'd be easy to pay $200 for an $89 wall mount. Wall mounts seemed exceptionally expensive at Best Buy. There are many eBay wall mounts, too.

I'm most annoyed that the only 'audio out' on most TVs now is is optical, which means that if you want to connect your TV to a stereo system, you need to buy a new receiver with optical 'in' and then use the stereo remote (or a universal) to control the TV sound. In the good old days, TVs had variable analog audio 'out' on the back of them. I found one LCD Toshiba model that still does - but all others are fixed-level or optical.

TIMZTOY
11-23-2009, 09:22 PM
My wife and I were going to buy a 50-55" as well. For all my searching. The led tv's are the best then Would be LCD then last plasma. Personally I'm going with the sharp aquos 52" 1080p Lcd at cosco. It's a $1499.00 tv for sale for $1200.00 even walmart couldn't beat the 1200 price. I was shocked.

rover67
11-23-2009, 10:49 PM
I've had a costco vizio for 4 years now and it seems to be doing well. 1080p looks nice with the computer hooked up and I let the Marantz reciever do the audio.

pmccumber
11-23-2009, 11:22 PM
1) Whatever you get, get it at Costco.
2) Get a good LCD. Plasma run hot, burn lots of energy, and have relatively short half-lives, like 7 years.
3) LCDs can be cycled many times more than DLPs and plasmas.
4) Anything you're gonna get now is gonna be 1080p although the only thing that will give you content in that rez is BluRay. Comcast, DirecTV, and Dish are all 1080i or 720p.
5) Get bigger than you think you're gonna need. I'm totally serious. You think you want 42", get 52".
6) There is only a handful (like 3 or 4) factories that make these big hunks of glass. So there is a good chance that Sony and Vizio for example have the same source. Where there is a difference is the components, electronics, shielding, cooling, etc. Personally, when buying cameras and TVs and cars, I go Japanese. And when I go Japanese, I go with the best-selling high-end stuff in Japan so I go with Nikon, Toyota, and Toshiba. A top of the line Toshiba or Sony is gonna be 10% more than a Vizio. I wouldn't turn down a Sharp, they are very strong in this market, and LG and Samsung are definitely technology leaders.
7) If you have a lot of room and don't mind the form factor, get a monster DLP. I have two LCDs and a 65" DLP downstairs and it just rocks. DLPs have dynamics that are better than LCD and just good as plasma (LCD does have difficulty with artifacts) and close to plasma in color and nearly identical in brightness and sharpness. They don't have as good of blacks but the new ones are very, very good. They're just damn big and can't hang on the wall. But with a huge sub sitting next to and 5 satellite speakers the whole house just rumbles. I've never seen a better setup.
8) But a good LCD will have a mean time before failure of 70,000 hours. And that is hard to beat. If a pixel is gonna crap out, it'll do it before your two years is up at Costco.
9. Don't have the scoop yet on LEDs.

Bruiser
11-23-2009, 11:40 PM
I have heard one of the downsides of LED's in the life. They are newer technology and just last as long, yet. I also hear they are pretty pricey compared to an LCD or Plasma although I have not priced them out myself. We have had a 42-inch LCD Samsung for about 2 years and it has worked great.

Cruzrman
11-24-2009, 01:31 PM
If you go LCD, I recommend Toshiba (we have a 42" in the bedroom and the picture is incredible). It was 1100.00, but now you can an even larger one for the same price. Samsung makes an excellent set as well. L.E.D. will soon become the norm. DLP is dead.
For plasma, Pioneer and Sony lead the pack, but remember, they don't do well in bright rooms and the glass screen can be reflection nightmare. The biggest benefit to a plasma is off axis viewing. LCD's must be watched pretty much directly in front of you. If you move to the side even just a little bit, the picture goes to s--t. With a plasma you can usually sit up to 30 degrees off axis and not see much of change in the picture quality at all. My next purchase will be an L.E.D. LCD at a 120Hz refresh rate. Anything above that is accomplished using special algorithms that can deteriorate picture quality.
vruzrman

Caribou Sandstorm
11-24-2009, 10:07 PM
LCD for sure...don't waist your money on anything else. The processors are wicked fast now and the football does not blur as it flys accross the screen. also no real moving parts like DLP so they are suppose to last longer..

I have a Sony 52" LCD from Costco 4 years old and a Sharp 37" LCD also from costco about 2 years old (via consumer reports reccomendation). Not doing that again. I think my Sony is hands down far better then my Sharp..

Also not sure you already have or are looking for but I recommend the Yamaha HD recievers. I have 2, they are very user friendly and have a gazillian config possibilities in the back.

Corbet
11-24-2009, 10:26 PM
Have had a 40" Sony LCD now for over two years. no complaints other than the new stuff is even better. Never noticed any problem with off axis viewing but maybe because its in the corner of the room?

Just make sure you get something with a refresh rate of 120hz or more for sports viewing. My older unit can get a little blurred watching football and it will become more noticeable with a larger screen.

I have to stay away from plasma due to altitude.

FJ 432
11-25-2009, 07:58 AM
Just make sure you get something with a refresh rate of 120hz or more for sports viewing. My older unit can get a little blurred watching football and it will become more noticeable with a larger screen.



Is that what the refresh rate is? I have an older DLP and it appears at times to have a hard time catching up to the action and the picture gets pixely (new word). So a higher hz means that it can keep up with the action?

Caribou Sandstorm
11-25-2009, 08:34 AM
Hey FJ432 is that a Colorado plate with a skier on it?

pmccumber
11-25-2009, 08:40 AM
Is that what the refresh rate is? I have an older DLP and it appears at times to have a hard time catching up to the action and the picture gets pixely (new word). So a higher hz means that it can keep up with the action?

The proper term is "pixelated". Yep. Seen lots of problem reports when writing codecs with that word. That and "AV Sync" for when audio and video get our of sync. Right now, plasma and DLP do the best with pixelation. But the pixelation can also be from your settop box. When the DirecTV is losing the signal (snow piling up) it frequently pixelates. I still see AV Sync problems now and again on my DirecTV box (couple times a year) and I know it is an issue with all content providers.

The higher HZ rate is how many times/sec the screen refreshes. Now, if the screen buffer that is being refreshed still only updates at 20 Hz, you're still gonna see artifacts. But, if the buffer updates in step with the content it gets from the provider (settop or DVD) and integrates between frames smoothly, you'll get a nice image.

But LCDs have gotten to the point where you can't even tell any more and that wasn't the case just a couple years ago.

DaveInDenver
11-25-2009, 08:41 AM
Hey FJ432 is that a Colorado plate with a skier on it?
That's a skier plate from a long time ago, issued in 1958. Pretty dang cool if it's original (plus quite collectible).

Mendocino
11-25-2009, 12:34 PM
I was looking at TVs yesterday at Sears and saw the Black Friday ads. The one TV they had listed in the ad was $300 MORE on Black Friday than their everyday price!:eek: I pointed this out to the sales guy and he just smiled.

FJ 432
11-25-2009, 01:29 PM
Hey FJ432 is that a Colorado plate with a skier on it?

Yes it is. I was walking through an antique store and it caught my eye especially being an FJ. Boulder county issued license plate.

Mendocino
11-25-2009, 05:47 PM
I made a decision and a purchase. I bought a Sony Bravia 52" LCD 120 Hz at Sears. They had a deal where you could get $250 off a Blu-ray player (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05757469000P?keyword=Sony+Blu+ray+players) and an additional 10% off if you put it on a Sears card. I had intended to pay cash, but the additional $155 off was great. I will just pay it off in total in 6 months when the interest would be due. Overall I'm pretty happy; ~$1800 for the TV and a Blu-Ray player out the door. This also included a 3 year service plan for the thing that I can cancel and get a pro-rated refund on if I feel so incluned. For those of you coming to the Holiday Party you can check it out.:thumb:
http://s.sears.com/is/image/Sears/05771279000-1?hei=600&wid=600&op_sharpen=1&qlt=90,0&resMode=sharp&op_usm=0.9,0.5,0,0

Shark Bait
11-25-2009, 05:56 PM
Man, I'm just itching to buy one. :eek:

Mendocino
11-25-2009, 06:51 PM
Man, I'm just itching to buy one. :eek:

The online price went up $168 overnight.:eek: I'm glad I bought it when I did.

Corbet
11-25-2009, 07:35 PM
very nice choice :thumb: