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bh4rnnr
08-22-2005, 08:18 PM
Official dates set for the Outlaws Run this year. We will be going out October 6th through the 10th. Thursday through Monday. I plan on leaving some time Thursday morning. And camping at Crystal Geyser, outside of Green River Utah. Will plan on meeting people on Friday at noon in Green River. Daniel Markofsky will be heading out Friday morning. We are working on areas to go this year, will keep posted as time gets closer. Also have been in contact with the Wasatch Cruisers of Utah. Some of them may end up meeting up with us Sunday for the day......
This is back country camping. Make sure you have enough water and right gear for the trip. Also things to bring is Gas. There is no gas station in the swell, closest one is Green River, half hour east from the entrance to the Sanrafael Swell.
Please let either myself or Daniel Markofsky know if you plan on comming out with us, and what days.

-Perry

nuclearlemon
08-22-2005, 10:03 PM
i'll be there again!!!

Hulk
08-23-2005, 10:36 AM
I'm hoping to make it this year in the 80. How many cans of gas do you recommend bringing? I can do two now, and buy/borrow more cans if needed.

wesintl
08-23-2005, 10:57 AM
I think all the gassers had 2 cans ea. I had one which was cutting it close but perry and I stayed for more wheeling but both of us were on fumes to green river :)

bh4rnnr
08-23-2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah, i'd recomend at least two gas cans. Maybe more like three.. I had one last year. Pulled out onto I-70 monday after Eagle canyon and it was on "E". I'm gonna try and bring three this year. I can cary most of the cans during the trip if you dont want them in the vehicle....

nuclearlemon
08-23-2005, 06:31 PM
i had two, was there one less day than perry and wes, and sucking fumes into green river.

Inukshuk
08-24-2005, 11:39 AM
I had two. Perry carried them. Used them both at the end (Perry said he did not need them!) and had 1/2 tank at Green river!

bh4rnnr
08-24-2005, 09:29 PM
Re-post some pics so people can get an idea of whats out there :)

leiniesred
08-29-2005, 01:35 PM
I scheduled the time off already and it was approved. Looking forward to it. I Hope Lindsay can go with me(us).

-LeiniesRed

bh4rnnr
08-29-2005, 07:32 PM
Alright! Glad you can make it out. Should be another great trip!! Got these from Dave Connors. Have been talking to him about the Devils race track. Sounds like it's tight for fulsizes, but an 80 can make it through. He was saying that the full size chevy's might have a hard time getting through. I gues this is where Royal Rose lost his snorkel one year :eek: . I'd like to do this Sunday, as we might be able to get some of the Wasatch crew to join us :) .

wesintl
08-30-2005, 10:23 AM
the Devils race track. Sounds like it's tight for fulsizes, but an 80 can make it through.

Where is devils race track? I looked at the blue book and I don't see anything about it?

bh4rnnr
08-30-2005, 11:44 AM
Where is devils race track? I looked at the blue book and I don't see anything about it?

We passed it last year when going through the North Coal Wash road. It is in that little book that Jeff Gave us.

wesintl
08-30-2005, 12:06 PM
ok.. I see it now.. kinda a branch off north coal instead of going fixit pass we could go devils racetrack?

bh4rnnr
08-30-2005, 12:51 PM
One plan I was thinking was to come through off of I-70, then exit through the lower road.. I'd still like to do Fixit Pass, comming from the San Rafael River, ending at the Buckhorn Wash road..

nuclearlemon
08-30-2005, 06:28 PM
can we start fixit pass early enough to do the long way this time?

bh4rnnr
08-30-2005, 10:23 PM
Glad you asked, as I just got back from DPL with Dan. We got most of the days planned out. Should be fun.

Friday: Meet in Green River at Noon. Head west on I-70 to the swell. Inter the swell through Black Dragon Canyon. If we have enough time, head up to swazy's leap. Then off to set up camp off the Mexican Mountain RD.

Saturday: This will be the BIG day. We will leave early. Fixit Pass to Devils Race Track, through Swazy's Cabin and to the South Fork Coal Wash. Cross the Sanrafael River, to Buckhorn Wash and back to camp. This should take up most of the day, and who knows, maybe into the night :) .

Sunday: (We havent fully figured out the rest of the days yet....) But planning on a late morning. Either breaking down camp and heading south or............. Will update once we figure out the last of the details.

Oh, and we thought this would be fun. Anybody that plans on going, needs to creat a "outlaw" name.

wesintl
08-31-2005, 12:05 AM
Even if I don't go... you can call me Clint :D

Uncle Ben
08-31-2005, 07:23 AM
Even if I don't go... you can call me Clint :D

OK....Clint :D

bh4rnnr
08-31-2005, 07:10 PM
Even if I don't go... you can call me Clint :D


Yeah, real original :rolleyes:............................................................................................................................................Clint :D

powderpig
09-10-2005, 09:48 AM
If all works out I will be going as well and may stay a few extra days after to wonder around for a bit. I may have ty with me as well. Looks to be a fun area. I have been wanting to get in to this area for a bit. Any books to have with, or just some maps and GPS stuff? later robbiehttp://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/images/icons/icon10.gif

wesintl
09-10-2005, 10:31 AM
Backcountry adventures series by peter massey covers what we did last year pretty well. Swazy's cabin, Buckhorn wash, black dragon canyon, etc. It's in the Utah Book; central region. Pass Patrol (http://4x4books.com/ppb2.htm) covers it really well. I also have an extra Emery County Blue book. I might come to the Christo's ARB seminar if there is still room and I can bring you one.

The PDF of the blue book is here http://www.emerycounty.com/travel/brochures/nswellwebdownload.pdf

and UT BLM

powderpig
09-10-2005, 10:46 AM
Christo can answer about the thing on monday, it mostly about numbers so he can order enough pizza. so just e-mail him or post you will come. As for emerys book, never heard of it. but I have the other two book as well as a Utah atlas. So I have some things covered. Thanks robbie

wesintl
09-10-2005, 10:55 AM
It's really more of a flyer or phamplet vs a book.. I found the pdf and the link is above in the previous post. I'm sure Perry or Daniel could provide more info. I thought about getting the one of the books just for the history part of things.

bh4rnnr
09-10-2005, 05:40 PM
If all works out I will be going as well and may stay a few extra days after to wonder around for a bit. I may have ty with me as well. Looks to be a fun area. I have been wanting to get in to this area for a bit. Any books to have with, or just some maps and GPS stuff? later robbiehttp://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/images/icons/icon10.gif

Would be cool if you could make it Robbie. Deff a cool area out there. Pass Patrol has one or two books on the area. The Utah book by Peter Massey has some good info on some of the sites out there. I also have a copy of the Geographic map of the area, although they dont show roads in the wilderness areas(they are open in most of them). Daniel and myslef also got a copy of the San Rafael Motorized Route Designations. The Emery county book Wes is talking about is very well done. Has a couple pages showing different routes to take. Also has a detailed map of the area. I have a few extra and will bring them.

GPS is nice to have for areas like this. Daniel, and I think Ige had them last year. While driving out of Cane wash, Dan pointed out that there would be a turn in about a 1/4 mile. Right after that, I saw a sign with a arrow(and asumed that was the turn). Well sure enough it wasnt as the little wash got to narow for Wes and my rigs :eek: . Also used them the next day to help find a short hiking trail that was not marked all except for the trailhead marker :rolleyes: .......

nuclearlemon
09-17-2005, 11:15 PM
i will have my gps again. also, i was going through my cruiser stuff (at the request of tony twiddy) and found pass patrol's vol. one 1987 book, which covers robber's roost, the cassidy trail, the outlaw trail.

larry heck recommends a book called 'the wild bunch at robber's roost" by pearl baker (she grew up there). he also recommends "the outlaw trail" by charles kelly, which includes interviews with "retired" outlaws.

i'm reading up, but while i'm really hoping to go on this trip, there are a few things that may hamper me this year.

bh4rnnr
09-18-2005, 01:40 PM
i will have my gps again. also, i was going through my cruiser stuff (at the request of tony twiddy) and found pass patrol's vol. one 1987 book, which covers robber's roost, the cassidy trail, the outlaw trail.

larry heck recommends a book called 'the wild bunch at robber's roost" by pearl baker (she grew up there). he also recommends "the outlaw trail" by charles kelly, which includes interviews with "retired" outlaws.

i'm reading up, but while i'm really hoping to go on this trip, there are a few things that may hamper me this year.

Let me know where you find those books. Have been looking for a while but come up emtpy. Last time Dan and I were at the libary, we found about ten diff books on the outlaws. One real cool one talked alot about the region/outlaw trail. I have all the pass patrol books, and is what kinda got me into the outlaws....

Hulk
09-20-2005, 10:14 AM
Filled up the tank on the 80 a few days ago: $60. I don't think I can afford this run. :(

bh4rnnr
09-23-2005, 07:22 PM
Just getting an idea of who is planning on going. I will be leaving Thursday the 6th(might stay in Vail Wed night). Sounds like Daniel will be leaving late afternoon on Thursday. Will be camping at Crystal Geyser Thursday night. Friday will plan on meeting everybody at noon in Green River. Let me know if you plan on attending and what day your going to show up..... Thanks.

powderpig
09-24-2005, 09:31 AM
I too will be heading out on thursday(unless I skip the RS meeting). more than likely early in the morn and stop at glenwood springs to soak for a bit. I will not be returning until wed. Do you plan to go to the RS meeting on Wed.? Anyhow I will figure this totally out by next weekend. robbie

bh4rnnr
09-25-2005, 09:08 PM
I too will be heading out on thursday(unless I skip the RS meeting). more than likely early in the morn and stop at glenwood springs to soak for a bit. I will not be returning until wed. Do you plan to go to the RS meeting on Wed.? Anyhow I will figure this totally out by next weekend. robbie


Yeah, totaly forgot about the meeting. So for anyone planning on leaving thursday the 6th, lets plan on meeting at the geo cut(cant remember the name of it, the place we met at for the Ghost town run) at 9:30. Sound good? And for the late commers on Friday we will meet at the West Winds truck stop in Green River at high noon :D .

Linkie for West winds:http://www.westwindstruckstop.com/

Inukshuk
09-27-2005, 12:41 PM
Gas prices :mad: are making me look again at this trip. As said before at $60 a tank - OUCH. BUT, I'm not out yet and a friend wants to join me and split costs.
Assuming I go, I can now leave Thursday night :) . Does that leave anyone who has to go Friday AM?
What is the total count?

nuclearlemon
09-27-2005, 06:32 PM
i'm looking at thurs night/fri am also...also up in the air with gas prices..same story...i might have a rider lined up...if he goes, i go. if not...tossup.

Inukshuk
09-27-2005, 06:48 PM
Last week when I flew to Hawaii (I know, poor Daniel) we flew directly over the San Rafael Swell! Perry and I just evaluated the photos and this one is the San Juan River and exactly where we will be camping. Will you look at that geography! Woo Hoo!

Uncle Ben
09-27-2005, 07:54 PM
Dan,
That was TOO COOL! :cool:

bh4rnnr
09-27-2005, 09:16 PM
Yeah, I thought that was a way cool pic to. It's actualy the San Rafael River though ;) . The Upper Black Box is where we hiked in on Sunday last year(you know the one with out any trail markers :rolleyes: ). Swazy's leap(we will be going ther this year) is south of Mexican Mountain. Have some cool facs on the Castle Gate Robbery and where Butch and the banndits went in the Swell on there way to Robbers Roost after the hold up.

Vitesse_6
09-27-2005, 11:45 PM
Pardone my intrusion...
Im considering meeting up with you guy/gal's for the Sun. run, Its been talked about at through Wasatch Cruisers, There seems to be a few interested, My hang up will be that I wouldnt have been home for a week, I dont know IF the wife or kids would be willing to spend another day on the road.
So, My question is...What are the aprox. times for meeting? where? and the like.
I may be blathering on...Its late and Ive had a few too many, I may just need to reread the last few pages.
Thanks :D

bh4rnnr
09-28-2005, 07:19 AM
Pardone my intrusion...
Im considering meeting up with you guy/gal's for the Sun. run, Its been talked about at through Wasatch Cruisers, There seems to be a few interested, My hang up will be that I wouldnt have been home for a week, I dont know IF the wife or kids would be willing to spend another day on the road.
So, My question is...What are the aprox. times for meeting? where? and the like.
I may be blathering on...Its late and Ive had a few too many, I may just need to reread the last few pages.
Thanks :D


Brian, thanks for posting. I have not heard back from you guys in a while so i didnt know if we were still gonna plan on meeting up Sunday. For Sunday we were thinking about maybe getting up to the noerthern are above Mexican Mountain. Hard to tell if anyroads go in that arear from the maps we have. National Geographic doesnt show anything due to Wilderness, and the travel map doesnt cover that area... But from the terrain layout, it looks like something that could be fun to check out.

Another possibility is we could Do Eagle Canyon. There was a road right near the end that looked very interesting following along the cliffs edge. Looks liked it Might go to westbound I-70. Then check out Copper Globe mine and shepp hearders end etc.... I'll talk with Dan more and let you guys know.

Vitesse_6
09-28-2005, 08:11 AM
This is what I have read so far...

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from Perry Loughridge of Rising Sun

"Hi Dave, hope things are well. Just was wanting to touch base with you and see if you guys are going to be able to meet up with us at some point??
Still need to figure out Sunday. We will be doing Fixit Pass/Devils Race Track/South Fork Coal wash/ San Rafael river on Saturday. Planning on a late start sunday then maybe pack up and head south. I'd like to stay north for one more day. Just tryin to figure out some good areas to go. The wedge is cool, but we did go there last year..... Anyway, let me know what your guys plans are then maybe we can work around that..

-Perry"

Anyone interested in hooking up in the Swell Sunday on the way home from Moab with Rising Sun? Any of you Swell geniuses want to propose a run? Part of me wants to maybe work my way up to Skyline Drive. I'd really like to do this but just need some suggestions on trails.
dmc
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i am interested. havent cruised through the swell yet, so i dont have any suggestions.


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Crack Canyon, which is down by Goblin Valley looks like it would be interesting, though all I know abou tit is that it's rampant with ATV's.
Black Dragon Canyon is cool, but it's not very techincal.

I know of some GREAT hikes out there.
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I will see if anyone else might be interested, Need to keep it fresh on there minds :D I will need to do a bit of greasing on my part to make it.
Have fun

bh4rnnr
09-28-2005, 06:13 PM
Cool, thanks Brian. Oh and where is Skyline Drive?? Gonna go look at a map now.

Vitesse_6
09-28-2005, 10:02 PM
Cool, thanks Brian. Oh and where is Skyline Drive?? Gonna go look at a map now.
I have no idea where Skyline drive is, You will need to ask DMC about that, Ive been to the swell a few times but its been years and mostly just wandering the roads.
Good luck

bh4rnnr
09-29-2005, 08:32 PM
From Butch's early years......

Bob kept his horse on a ranch in Telluride. In the spring, when the cult(named Cornish) was three years old, Bob started to break him. That colt was beginning to shape up beautifully. the rancher had taken a real liking to Cornish and wanted to buy him, but Bob wouldn't sell. One evening after work, Bob took the colt out of the pasture to start breaking it.
The envious rancher swore out a warrant for Bobs arrest, accusing him of stealing the horse. Knowing that a number of men could testify in court that as long as they had known the brown colt, it had been at his ranch. Bob could not point to a brand, so the rancher thought this was a good time to pick up a free horse.
Bob was Jailed in Montrose, a town not far from Telluride. His friends new he was innocent. They wired his dad that Bob needed help.
Bob's dad left immediately. When he arrived in Montrose, he found Bob sitting in his cell, reading a magazine, with the door wide open. When Bob heard approaching foot steps, he looked up, and his mouth dropped open. "Dad!" he shouted " what the hell are you doing here?"
"Buy gum, young man" Dad replied, " I might ask you the same question. What's this all about?" he scratched his head, " this is the first time I ever heard a of a prisoner being imprisoned behind a opened door cell" Bob grinned "there not afraid i'll escape. they know I haven't taken anything that wasn't mine. I plan to stay right here till I get my horse"
Bob's father changed the whole complexion of the situation, for Bob was backed by his father, clearly a man of integrity and authority. When character witnesses came forward and volunteered there testimony, the rancher was defeated.
After the trial, Dad urged "come home with me, your mothers never been the same. We need you. You wouldn't believe how cute little Lula is. Tryin to keep up with the others. Baby Mark is growing fast and you haven't even seen him. Buy gum, son, the kids need you too. This is no kind of life for you".
Bob was silent, an inner struggle going on. He longed for the security of his family. Then he recalled hi strapped felling in Utah: closed in, nothing he could get his hands on, no money, no excitement. He couldn't go back to that. "Tell you what Dad, give me a little longer to save money and i'll be home". He pressed some gold pieces in his fathers hand"For ma". He swallowed the lump in his throat, not daring to say more.
"You're mother will appreciate the money, but it's no substitute for you"

Hulk
09-30-2005, 08:46 AM
In the spring, when the cult(named Cornish) was three years old...

What kind of cult was it? One of those "worship the sun" deals? If the cult was named Cornish, did it have something to do with the ritual sacrifice of small hens?

/Enquiring minds want to know.
//confused.
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bh4rnnr
09-30-2005, 09:16 AM
What kind of cult was it? One of those "worship the sun" deals? If the cult was named Cornish, did it have something to do with the ritual sacrifice of small hens?

/Enquiring minds want to know.
//confused.
///slashes!

Sheesh, so thats what I get for not double checking it :rolleyes: . Even spell checked everything(so I thought). It should be Colt.....

bh4rnnr
09-30-2005, 01:56 PM
Brian, still have not got Sunday planned out. But since it sounds like there are a couple of you thinking about maybe meeting up with us, do you want to try and plan on meeting Sunday mornin? We can meet at the San Rafael campground(it's right off BuckHorn wash and Mexican Mountain road). We can meet at lets say 10:30, then head out from there??

Vitesse_6
09-30-2005, 02:04 PM
I will pass it along, Alot will be leaving on Sat.
Thanks

Vitesse_6
10-01-2005, 09:12 PM
Good luck all, Be safe, have fun!
Im off to Denver to see Ige Sun. I may run into a few of you around.
I passed along the new info, Hope it works out, There was some confusion as to when and what was going on.... :confused:
Take care!

treerootCO
10-02-2005, 09:42 AM
Couldn't get the time off this year. :(

nuclearlemon
10-02-2005, 11:18 AM
Couldn't get the time off this year. :(
for outlaws??? i thought you already had it off?

bh4rnnr
10-02-2005, 01:06 PM
So is there anyone going to be meeting up with us on Friday?? If not, that make setting up camp friday better(and leaves more time to explore) :)

nuclearlemon
10-02-2005, 02:38 PM
i'm still questioning it...the fuel economy and the fact that i have a lot to do around the house are holding me back.

bh4rnnr
10-02-2005, 06:32 PM
i'm still questioning it...the fuel economy and the fact that i have a lot to do around the house are holding me back.

What, now your backing out :rolleyes: .

powderpig
10-02-2005, 09:16 PM
So the way it reads is camp is in one spot if we do not meet people on friday? Also is there wood to burn at this camp or do we import the stuff from here? I am also takeing my stove so I know for sure I will be eating. Any other info a guy could use to make good choices would be good to know. I do want to do some soaking in the Hot springs at glenwood before I head that way. I am thinking I will leave around 6 am and get GWS by 9-9:30 and soak for a good hour or more. leave that area around 11 or so. What channel of the CB do you guys want to run? Maybe post cell phone numbers some how for those that want their privacy. Any how I am getting excited to do a extended trip (more than over nite). Any themes for food on certain nites?
later robbie

bh4rnnr
10-02-2005, 09:27 PM
So the way it reads is camp is in one spot if we do not meet people on friday? Also is there wood to burn at this camp or do we import the stuff from here? I am also takeing my stove so I know for sure I will be eating. Any other info a guy could use to make good choices would be good to know. I do want to do some soaking in the Hot springs at glenwood before I head that way. I am thinking I will leave around 6 am and get GWS by 9-9:30 and soak for a good hour or more. leave that area around 11 or so. What channel of the CB do you guys want to run? Maybe post cell phone numbers some how for those that want their privacy. Any how I am getting excited to do a extended trip (more than over nite). Any themes for food on certain nites?
later robbie

Robbie, the first night(thursday night) we will be camping at Crystal Geyser just outside of Green river Utah. Camped there last year and was a nice place. The weather was so nice I ended up just sleeping outside. Friday we will be setting up base camp. Thats why I was asking if we were meeting any body in Green River. As we could just head out friday mornin. We will be on cb4(is there anyother channel were on :p ). Firewood, we didnt bring any last year and managed to get buy. Might be something good to think about this year though. Food, realy havent thought of that.. Man I cant wait to get back out there :cool: .

bh4rnnr
10-03-2005, 07:47 PM
C'mon Ige you cant back out on me like everybody else. I'm glad Robbies still goin, but now Dan is not going to be able to go. Oh well, i'm still going. Friend at work is lending me a cb, will be kinda a shady way of putting it in there, using a jump box and have the cb plug into the cig lighter adapter, then when need to, charge it up with the outlet adapter that Scott was so nice to install in the engine. That'll have to do till I get back..... Robbie, i'll give ya my # at wed meeting.

ericjcline
10-10-2005, 01:06 PM
heyo-

sorry i missed you guys in the swell! turns out i was about 10 minutes late to the campground and missed your departure.

i was shooting for 9:00 am but had troubles with tires and ended up driving much slower than i had anticipated...

so where is coal canyon? i looked all over on my map per your note and didnt find it. i chased you guys up the buckhorn gulch road until i shorted out my idle solenoid and just got too far behind...



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bh4rnnr
10-11-2005, 05:22 PM
heyo-

sorry i missed you guys in the swell! turns out i was about 10 minutes late to the campground and missed your departure.

i was shooting for 9:00 am but had troubles with tires and ended up driving much slower than i had anticipated...

so where is coal canyon? i looked all over on my map per your note and didnt find it. i chased you guys up the buckhorn gulch road until i shorted out my idle solenoid and just got too far behind...





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Man, sorry we missed ya. Think Robbie was ready to hit the trail. South fork coal wash is just past the San Rafael river crossing. We ended up missing the turn off for the road and kept driving through the wash till it ended. Kinda wasnt part of the trail :eek: ..... Was odd though looking at the maps as it showed a road going through the wash a couple miles then heading out. It was a good trip though. Hopefully we can meet up with you guys next year. Will be doing a write up for toyota trails. so will not be posting pics...

ericjcline
10-11-2005, 06:41 PM
no worries... honestly, i was suprised you guys stayed until 10! VERY generous... i am bummed i missed the run, but i had fun rallying hard through the gulch. was the turn to the east? i remember passing a few smaller canyons that had tracks, but no fresh tire tread... i must have blazed past you guys when you were turning around. i think i drove through that canyon at about 55 mph! i was certain i was going to catch you...

looking forward to a write up! pics should be great! the weather was perfect...

you guys ever look into going into escalante national monument? no 'wheeling' in the traditonal sense, but if you liked the swell...

keep wasatch posted on western CO/eastern UT runs! i know i am always interested in meeting more cruiserheads. i have always had a great time with the RS guys at CM. neil probably doesnt remember me or my rig, but i sure had fun tooling around elephant hill with him at CM '03...


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