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Myredyota
02-04-2010, 12:41 AM
I got rear ended tonight on my way home from work. Short version of the story... I got stopped and the Grand Prix behind me went under the rear of my truck. He was probably going about 50+ before he hit me. I bet he about peed himself 'cause my bumper almost went through his windshield!

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/myredyota/misc/0203002223a.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/myredyota/misc/0203002224.jpg

So now, what kind of bumper should I get?

DaveInDenver
02-04-2010, 06:10 AM
Glad the Smitty held up! Last time I looked I think Smitty may have changed their catalog and no longer makes that bumper. If going with another is not possible or you just want to change, hard to beat Marlin's bumper.

Red_Chili
02-04-2010, 07:33 AM
Or a solid homebuilt steel bumper using 4x4 square tube. Squishy may be parting with his that we made for his truck. Stout and better clearance.

nakman
02-04-2010, 08:16 AM
I'm liking the All Pro so far... though it hasn't been rear-end tested yet, thankfully.

DaveInDenver
02-04-2010, 08:33 AM
I'm liking the All Pro so far... though it hasn't been rear-end tested yet, thankfully.
For the Hilux the All Pro and the Marlin are pretty similar designs (both are 1.75" 0.120 tubing with quarter protection and cost with $15 of each other).

http://www.marlincrawler.com/sites/all/marlin/files/bumperhilux640.jpg

http://allprooffroad.com/images/stories/pickup4runner/trailarmor/bumpers/rear/bumperrear600x400.jpg

I've also thought the Warn is a nice looking bumper, although it's 2x as much as All Pro and Marlin, who are solid Toyota outfitters and deserve our support.

http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-systems/images/765/toyota-rear-bumper.jpg

I can vouch that the Marlin is Rubicon-approved! A Pontiac Grand Am has no hope against it.

http://armbrusterweb.com/tripsfolder/longtripsfolder/rubithon08folder/files/page75_10.jpg

Red_Chili
02-04-2010, 08:44 AM
...

I've also thought the Warn is a nice looking bumper, although it's 2x as much as All Pro and Marlin, who are solid Toyota outfitters and deserve our support.

http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-systems/images/765/toyota-rear-bumper.jpg


That is pretty close to the one Squishy and I made for his truck.

DaveInDenver
02-04-2010, 08:45 AM
That is pretty close to the one Squishy and I made for his truck.
Yeah and his cost a whole ton less than $700 or whatever Warn wants for it, too.

Red_Chili
02-04-2010, 09:07 AM
Assuming Squishy will want to sell it. Ping him.
If you have a 1" body lift it will be the schizz. If not you will have to offset the mounts, which can be done easily enough - or use cutouts on the bed skirt and tuck it in tight. Receiver can be added easily enough. Uses square tube sliding into the rear of the frame rails so it is quite rigid.

Myredyota
02-04-2010, 09:18 AM
So far I like the Marlin--All Pro-- Addicted Off Road/Trail Gear bumpers. They are very similar. All Pro says that the spare tire will not fit under the truck with their bumper.:mad:

Addicted Offroad:

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/120109-1-k-installed1.jpg
http://www.trail-gear.com/images/120110-1-k-800.jpg

DaveInDenver
02-04-2010, 09:32 AM
All Pro says that the spare tire will not fit under the truck with their bumper.
A 33" spare fits fine with Marlin's, just like stock. I trimmed the apron on my bed instead of a body lift FWIW.

Red_Chili
02-04-2010, 09:47 AM
That Addicted Offroad design looks to be the most rigid of the bunch. It would also protect a bit better at a very slight loss of departure angle... MAYbe...

nakman
02-04-2010, 10:06 AM
A spare does fit with the All Pro.. but it is a little tricky to lower it as there's not as big of a gap between the top of the bumper and the bottom of the tailgate. So you can't assemble the whole thing in front of you then shove it in- you have to assemble the pieces that need to be behind the bumper, behind the bumper.

The factory spare tire will mount under truck with our Tacoma bumpers, however, access to spare tire lowering crank is limited.

http://www.allprooffroad.com/9504tacomatrailarmor/9504rearbumpers

DaveInDenver
02-04-2010, 10:15 AM
A spare does fit with the All Pro.. but it is a little tricky to lower it as there's not as big of a gap between the top of the bumper and the bottom of the tailgate. So you can't assemble the whole thing in front of you then shove it in- you have to assemble the pieces that need to be behind the bumper, behind the bumper.
The way the Taco and the Hilux bumpers mount up are different and the tailgate/apron/frame/bumper configuration isn't quite identical between them. It's possible that what applies to the Tacoma bumper does not to the Hilux. Not sayin' the All Pro doesn't work but that's not the first time I've heard it. I believe it's got to do with the receiver tube IIRC. If you look closely the Addicted and the Marlin have a second hoop that extends back to support the receiver. The All Pro pushes it in to make a cleaner departure angle. That sits where the spare wants. I think it's possible to squeeze in a factory 28" sized spare, but not 31" or bigger.

nakman
02-04-2010, 11:09 AM
Ah so!

corsair23
02-04-2010, 02:33 PM
Glad to hear you are ok, and will be getting a new bumper out of it :thumb:

I'm no help on bumpers but back in high school, I had a friend rear end me in my 1982 Toyota PU...Truck was lifted, she was driving a Chevette.

I had to brake hard at a light, she wasn't paying attention, rear end of my truck lifted a bit and under she went...I had a couple friends riding in the back to boot that crawled to the tailgate and peered over, right into her face :eek:...We laughed about it afterwards but my bumper ended up about 6" away from her windshield, the rear leaf springs poked in through her hood, etc. I had to lock the truck into 4WD to drive off her Chevette because my rear wheels ended up off the ground...

Sadly, I didn't get a new bumper out of the deal...My existing chrome OEM one survived the ordeal just fine :hill:

Myredyota
02-04-2010, 10:51 PM
Jeff,
That is probably exactly what happened to me. I saw a little bit more damage this morning.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267/myredyota/misc/0204000932-1.jpg

Now I need to have someone to follow me to see if it is tracking properly. I am sure the insurance company will want me to take the truck to one of their "trusted" body shops. How will this work with my after market bumper and springs (if they need to be replaced)? Should I let my insurance company handle all this for me so they can fight with his if need be?

Bill,

Once again, I am agreeing with you. :D

DaveInDenver
02-05-2010, 06:19 AM
Nah, that's no biggie. Straighten the overload (block of wood and a 3 lbs hammer!) and it'll be fine until you can get the spring off to replace or repair. You can fix that spring pack pretty easily unless the springs are actually bent.

They can even be fixed if they break in two...
http://risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=7757&highlight=marlin+welding

You could have the other person's insurance adjuster look at the damage if they want, but I would just suggest to the other person that a new bumper and springs might be a few hundred dollars and see if they just want to cut you a check instead of involving insurance. I would go over the truck well in the daylight to make sure you haven't missed anything else, though.

Myredyota
02-22-2010, 11:41 PM
Ok, time for an update. I decided to let my insurance handle everything so they can deal with his insurance. I took my truck over to Hanks West. I printed out the Trail-Gear/Addicted Offroad info. They are going to fix my spring and use the TG bumper. Once they get it, paint it, they will call me for the install. Very smooth transaction!

Now, about Hanks! If you ever get a chance, go get a tour!!!:cool: Holy Cow! That place is huge and high tech! Very professional and family owned. I hope I never need to use them agian, but if the need arises, I won't look elsewhere.:bowdown:

Red_Chili
02-23-2010, 07:23 AM
Just FYI:
http://www.hanksautobody.com/

Big John
02-23-2010, 07:49 AM
I've seen that bumper in person and was actually impressed. At least you ended up with something cool outta the deal.

Caribou Sandstorm
02-23-2010, 08:07 AM
Plug for All Pro, John the owner is coming to Cruise Moab this year and participating in Vendor night..

Carey if you can wait that long and are coming to Cruise Moab, I bet you could get a deal on shipping, save some of that insurance money.....

Myredyota
02-23-2010, 09:05 AM
Chris,
I wish I could make CM! Not in the cards this year. My poor truck has been more of a mall crawler and DD the last few years.:o At least I am set up for the trails that I like to do, when I get the time to do them.:(

Caribou Sandstorm
02-23-2010, 09:14 AM
Well don't hesitate to ask one of us to bring one back from CM for you, if that helps make ends meet.

RockRunner
02-23-2010, 12:30 PM
I say build your own so you can add a tire carrier and gas/water if you want. Not that hard and you can make it so that is protects the side of the body too.

Myredyota
02-23-2010, 11:32 PM
Chris,
Thanks for the offer, but the wheels are already in motion. Insurance is covering everything.

Tom,
I have thought about making my own ever since I put this tube bumper on my truck 7 years ago! If I had the resources... well maybe someday I will do a front bumper... although Trail-Gear makes a nice one of those too! This tube bumper will go well with the sliders I have.

RockRunner
02-24-2010, 08:07 AM
Chris,
Thanks for the offer, but the wheels are already in motion. Insurance is covering everything.

Tom,
I have thought about making my own ever since I put this tube bumper on my truck 7 years ago! If I had the resources... well maybe someday I will do a front bumper... although Trail-Gear makes a nice one of those too! This tube bumper will go well with the sliders I have.

If you want to use square or 2x4 metal I have all the stuff you need to build it. Welder, cutter etc.

If you want to use tube I can still help you depending on when and what tube you want to use.

If you get the front from trail gear, very nice bumper, and your sliders are round people will tell you to go with a tube bumper. Personally I don't care, tube or square as long as it does the job.

LMK if you want to use the tools and or need help.:thumb:

Myredyota
02-25-2010, 12:41 AM
Tom,
You guys are really tempting me! The rear is already happening. It is basically a freebie. I like their front bumper also. I just wonder how far that stinger sticks out. I may never be able to work on my poor truck in the garage. I guess I could move the :Princess: car out and put the Packard on her side(tight fit). Wonder if she would go for that?