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Corbet
02-11-2010, 12:25 PM
So I'm planning to purchase a tube bender. So far my #1 choice is the JD2 model 32 bender. Price/value.

http://www.jd2.com/shop/custom.aspx?recid=7

I priced out a Baileigh, little rich for my blood. Maybe down the road some day.

Other popular choices on MUD are the Pro Tools and JMR.

What say you? I'm pretty sure Drew has the JD2 model 3... Hope he will chime in.

Right now I'm looking to only bend some small tube and/or square stuff. 1" or less. But I want the ability to bend 2" tube for any future projects.

Rezarf
02-11-2010, 12:38 PM
So I'm planning to purchase a tube bender. So far my #1 choice is the JD2 model 32 bender. Price/value.

http://www.jd2.com/shop/custom.aspx?recid=7

I priced out a Baileigh, little rich for my blood. Maybe down the road some day.

Other popular choices on MUD are the Pro Tools and JMR.

What say you? I'm pretty sure Drew has the JD2 model 3... Hope he will chime in.

Right now I'm looking to only bend some small tube and/or square stuff. 1" or less. But I want the ability to bend 2" tube for any future projects.

Nope, I don't own a jd2, but I have mooched on one before, at least once... erhh, more like 10 times! ;)

I love it, simple to use, easy setup and take down. I found it was easy to use and get very acurate results.

Now, if you were going to bend up a lot of stuff, say a tube frame buggy or lots of bumpers and sliders and racks and other stuff, I'd spring for hydraulics. I bet I walked the cheater bar 2 miles building my trailer and bumper alone :thumb:

Only other comment is that you want LOTS of room to walk around the thing, By the time you slap a 20' stick of steel into it, you need a ton of room to walk around it.

Have fun... I will add you to my new mooch list ;)

I haven't seem Jim Beedon (or remember his screen name) in a while but he has lots of time on benders.

zornff
02-11-2010, 02:47 PM
I have the JD2 and it works well. Bent up some 2" today which is max for this bender, and for a guy that is 170 lbs :) For the price its hard to beat, but the dies get pricey. Make sure that whatever die(s) you buy, get the 180 degree.
If you need to bend some tubing, you are welcome to use mine and save the cash. I have a 1 1/2" 5.5" radius, 1 1/2" 6.5" radius, 3/4" 3" radius, and 1 1/2" square 5.5 radius. I have access to a 2" 6" radius, and a 1" 4" radius. If i don't have what you need, buy the die and i'll work it out with you.
I can help you almost any evening and Saturdays. Our shop has everything you need, just need tubing,(which i can get) and your rig. Let me know.

Mike

Corbet
02-11-2010, 03:13 PM
Mike, thanks for the open offer. If I had only one project in mind I'd definitely take you up on it. But my plan is to introduce a product to market and having the ability to work at home is a must.

Big John
02-11-2010, 04:53 PM
Jd2 model 3 here with air over hyd. Been using this setup for several years and am very happy with it. Scotty has a Pro Tools 105??? and although it certainly gets the job done, and his has many miles of tubing run through it, I don't feel the quality is as good as the JD.

If you're looking to do a lot of bending I'd highly suggest hydro. Not only does it make the job easier, but you don't have to mount the bender to the floor or anything else. Huge bonus! Having the bender mounted in one place just plain sucks. I pieced together air/hydro for a decent price using an SPX ram and hose from Trick Tools and got a foot pedal off ebay much cheaper than the SPX one and save I think $300 there. There are also many write ups out there on DIY electric setups.

SROR/AKA 2BAD
02-11-2010, 07:53 PM
i started with a pro tool bender(manual pull)
then got offered a jd2 hydraulic-nuematic on a roller cart with a bunch of nice dies.
love it but my finger hurts every now and then from pushing down on the buttons :thumb: :D
go hydro or get a 10' pull bar.

Corbet
02-11-2010, 09:52 PM
i started with a pro tool bender(manual pull)
then got offered a jd2 hydraulic-nuematic on a roller cart with a bunch of nice dies.
love it but my finger hurts every now and then from pushing down on the buttons :thumb: :D
go hydro or get a 10' pull bar.

Which model Pro Tool and JD2? Other than the hydraulics what do you like/dislike about the two benders?

rover67
02-11-2010, 11:09 PM
Those are some nice machines Corbet. We built lots of cars using a hydraulic powered something that looked 1/10th that nice and was pretty old...

Big John
02-12-2010, 07:35 AM
For a cheap way to go hydro, I've seen this work in person and it works well. Only drawback is that you have to pull the ram back manually.
http://copperheadfab.com/index.php?action=productview&productid=164

Corbet
02-12-2010, 08:57 AM
For a cheap way to go hydro, I've seen this work in person and it works well. Only drawback is that you have to pull the ram back manually.
http://copperheadfab.com/index.php?action=productview&productid=164

I've read some mixed reviews on the Copperhead. But for now I'm not too concerned with adding the ram. I just want to make sure I get the right machine.

Big John
02-12-2010, 05:03 PM
I'll send Scotty this link and have him chime in on the PT105.

AddictedOffroad
02-12-2010, 07:29 PM
I have the ProTools 105HD. I have used it for at least five years. For the last two I have it hooked up to a air over hydro setup. While I have literally run miles of tubing through it with the Copperhead Fab bracket, I would still go with the JD2 model #3 if I were to do it all over again.

I used John's for a while at my shop before going air over hydro. The JD2 arms are laser cut where as the Pro Tools I use has plasma cut arms. Also, it seems like the quality of the JD2 was superior IMO. The pins are better quality as are the dies. I also like the fact that the outer die has replaceable pads unlike the Pro Tools. I can tell you that I routinely have to grind down burrs and weld in gouges on the dies of the Pro Tools. However, I use the bender every day at my shop and it has paid for itself 1000X over.

The Copperhead fab bracket leaves a lot to be desired but does work just fine. I had to chase all of the holes with a drill because they are plasma cut and not drilled. So, while the piece works okay, its not great. But, for the price you still cannot beat it.

Corbet
02-12-2010, 10:52 PM
now that is the kind of review I was looking for. I've been search all over and joining new forums tp research this. Surprisingly there does not seem to be too many people who have used both benders. What I did notice today is that there are quit a few Pro Tools benders listed for sale over on Pirate but no JD2 benders. I thought that said something.

Looks like a JD2 maybe in my near future. The only thing that seems better on the Pro Tools is the bushings. The poeple selling them sure make a point of that anyway. Well and the price is a little lower with the flat rate bender and one die set package.

zornff
02-13-2010, 06:58 AM
Here is a link to where i bought my jd2 model 3 deluxe.
www.vansantent.com/tube_bending_machines.htm

Beater
02-13-2010, 08:34 AM
my only input is the benders become like home exercise machines after a while. The end up with stuff hanging off of them.. Having built up a couple of trucks, once your done, your done...

Uncle Ben
02-13-2010, 10:46 AM
I have an old dinosaur Hydrolic unit with several differant dies that does a phenominal job on large or thick walled pipe 2" or larger. I have bent cages with it but it takes a while. For 1 1/2" tube I have a really slick little bender I scored off Ebay that does an awesome job but again this would be for personal projects and not production as it is slow. Here is a similar one.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-1-2-Tubing-Tube-Bender-SandRail-Rock-Crawler-Baja_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2304d9d900QQitemZ150405241088QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools#ht_1295wt_1165 I have to agree with "Johnny" on this (that was painful :p:) if you just bending 1 cage or even 1 a year, buying a production bender is a very costly option for both monitary and storage space!

Old40Dog
02-14-2010, 10:43 AM
Interesting stuff here as I need to bend a piece of 1 3/4" dia x .120 wall to replace a crossmember that was removed from my 69 40 to accomodate the T-350 tranny. Also, looking to build some sliders for Zach's pig.

Any feed back on either of these simple benders from Harbor Freight for someone doing just some occassional bending?

I have a flyer with some sale prices. The 12T is $90 and the 16T is $170.

12T = http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=32888

16T = http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=35336

Beater
02-14-2010, 10:50 AM
pipe benders bend pipe. You can bend thinner wall with shims and by filling with sand/water, but it's tricky.

fyi - most custom muffler shops will do bends for you on thin wall tube. around federal and the like

Corbet
03-08-2010, 06:46 PM
Well the first box arrived today. It's almost like Christmas all over again today:birthdaypresent: Still waiting on the stand and die set.

TIMZTOY
03-08-2010, 08:26 PM
wow im shocked you bought one, with as many people in the club that own this same bender.. you could have problly just borrowed it.. ive had several people offer theres to me for borrow.. but i to still want to buy one.. lol so i feal ya.. im jelous

Corbet
03-08-2010, 09:22 PM
yes, but I'm the only club member in Durango. Plus my plan involves a small side business kind of like Nakman's. So having my own is a must.

Uncle Ben
03-08-2010, 09:28 PM
Well the first box arrived today. It's almost like Christmas all over again today:birthdaypresent: Still waiting on the stand and die set.

Nice! Let the steady flow of pipe begin! ;) :)

Corbet
03-14-2010, 06:49 PM
While I was in Moab two more boxes showed up. So returning a day early had its advantages. Assembly done. Now just need to secure it to the floor. My first die is in transit. 40' of tube on the garage floor. I think I will be bending tube this weekend. :clap:

TIMZTOY
03-14-2010, 07:46 PM
whats the first project ?

Corbet
03-14-2010, 08:11 PM
that is a surprize;)

Uncle Ben
03-14-2010, 08:19 PM
While I was in Moab two more boxes showed up. So returning a day early had its advantages. Assembly done. Now just need to secure it to the floor. My first die is in transit. 40' of tube on the garage floor. I think I will be bending tube this weekend. :clap:

Vewy vewy :cool:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Elmer_Fudd.png

Corbet
03-20-2010, 05:55 PM
the first bend

3/4" square

Uncle Ben
03-20-2010, 07:00 PM
That is incredible! Very cool toy Corbet! :eek: :thumb::thumb: