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jacdaw
02-27-2010, 03:51 PM
Click Here (http://www.sotooutdoors.com/pocket.html). REI carries Soto and it looks like it will be $20. Pretty dang cool...
http://www.sotooutdoors.com/images/poke-1.jpg
http://www.sotooutdoors.com/images/poke-2.jpg
http://www.sotooutdoors.com/images/poke-3.jpg
http://www.sotooutdoors.com/images/poke-4.jpg

Uncle Ben
02-27-2010, 04:47 PM
Perfect for emergency Creme Brulee on the trail! ;) :lmao:

Red_Chili
02-27-2010, 06:53 PM
Yes it is. And I am not kidding.
:lmao:

Might also work to keep my pipe lit.

RockRunner
02-27-2010, 07:24 PM
Pretty neat set up and cheaper than a wind proof one plus easy to refill. Keep a few spare lighters and you are good to go. Great for starting a fire if the wood is damp.

jacdaw
02-27-2010, 07:34 PM
Perfect for emergency Creme Brulee on the trail! ;) :lmao:Dude, you and your anniversary-mall-rated-cruiser-ideas crack me up. I wanna be like UB.:bowdown::kevin:

farnhamstj
02-28-2010, 02:06 PM
Bill, you smoke crack too? I thought I was the only one :lmao:

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 12:00 PM
REI has them now (http://www.rei.com/product/806554). Have you spent your dividend yet?

DaveInDenver
04-16-2010, 12:16 PM
Might also work to keep my pipe lit.
That was the first thing that jumped into my mind, although not sure if we're on the exact same page or not...

wesintl
04-16-2010, 12:23 PM
REI directly supports SUWA which is adamant about closing trails, Specifically arch canyon.

http://suwa.typepad.com/blog/

Same thing with Patagonia. http://www.patagonia.com/web/us/patagonia.go?slc=en_US&sct=US&assetid=1961 I might have to burn my new jacket :(

"The red dust blanketing area mountains and virtually every surface in Aspen is a result of oil and gas development and off-road vehicle activity in southeastern Utah, according to David Garbett, staff attorney with Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance.

Really...:rolleyes:

treerootCO
04-16-2010, 12:49 PM
REI directly supports SUWA which is adamant about closing trails, Specifically arch canyon.

http://suwa.typepad.com/blog/

Same thing with Patagonia. http://www.patagonia.com/web/us/patagonia.go?slc=en_US&sct=US&assetid=1961 I might have to burn my new jacket :(

"The red dust blanketing area mountains and virtually every surface in Aspen is a result of oil and gas development and off-road vehicle activity in southeastern Utah, according to David Garbett, staff attorney with Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance.

Really...:rolleyes:

I guess " oil and gas development and off-road vehicle activity" was HUGE back in 1881

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9901E3DB103CEE3ABC4852DFB166838A699FDE

DaveInDenver
04-16-2010, 12:50 PM
REI directly supports SUWA which is adamant about closing trails, Specifically arch canyon.

http://suwa.typepad.com/blog/

Same thing with Patagonia. http://www.patagonia.com/web/us/patagonia.go?slc=en_US&sct=US&assetid=1961 I might have to burn my new jacket :(

"The red dust blanketing area mountains and virtually every surface in Aspen is a result of oil and gas development and off-road vehicle activity in southeastern Utah, according to David Garbett, staff attorney with Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance.

Really...:rolleyes:
All true, but it is difficult finding an outdoor brand that does not one some level go against some OHV values. Even those not explicitly political will use materials from suppliers who might not be friendly to OHVs. I've pretty much resigned to the fact that you have to pick your battles and chose based on who's less bad and make sure I drop an email or comment that I picked brand XYZ because of their stance that bikes belong or that OHV use is at least reasonable. Problem is that Patagucci unfortunately makes some awful nice stuff still.

wesintl
04-16-2010, 01:19 PM
True.. but these are Large supporters.

Black Diamond is another http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/about-us/giving-back/groups-we-support

Crash
04-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Okay, don't expect the Soto to work with Bic lighters - they don't fit. :rolleyes: The instructions say to refer to a separate sheet listing compatible lighters - no separate sheet came with ours that Suz just bought a REI, the only one they had in stock. Another disclaimer in the instructions: The unit may not work in colder temperatures or high altitudes above 5,000 feet. :rant: Still, it's cute and we'll just have to search for the compatible lighters and stay below 5,000' and keep it warm.

DaveInDenver
04-16-2010, 03:45 PM
These things cost $20.

For around the same price you can get a proper butane torch, like a Weller ML200. I've seen these as cheap as $15.

https://webvia.techni-tool.com/img/ViaImages/PRODIMAGE/2/272SO557.jpg

Crash
04-16-2010, 04:37 PM
Yeah, us crack smokers know all about the various options. I have butane backups, but the REI rebate was burning a hole (ha) in Suz's pocket and she thought she'd follow a RS lead. Live and learn!

DaveInDenver
04-16-2010, 05:23 PM
Yeah, us crack smokers know all about the various options. I have butane backups, but the REI rebate was burning a hole (ha) in Suz's pocket and she thought she'd follow a RS lead. Live and learn!
Does seem handy to be able to McGyver a torch at any truck stop.

Rezarf
04-16-2010, 06:38 PM
I've had a harbor frieght one that I got about 8 years ago for like $2 still going strong.

It is a champion at getting up under the dash for heat shrinking over wires.

FWIW, the best way to find a "compatable" lighter is to find the really cheap-o versions with NO child safety of any kind.

Crash
04-16-2010, 07:50 PM
Found two lighters besides the BIC and one that fit but....it still doesn't work so I need to keep looking for the right one. So far, I give this product the Lexus GX460 rating, don't buy unless you know you have the lighter that works with it.

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 10:03 PM
Found two lighters besides the BIC and one that fit but....it still doesn't work so I need to keep looking for the right one. So far, I give this product the Lexus GX460 rating, don't buy unless you know you have the lighter that works with it.Exactly what I have been doing today...searching for a square lighter with an adjustable flame. No dice.:(

Crash
04-16-2010, 10:07 PM
Exactly what I have been doing today...searching for a square lighter with an adjustable flame. No dice.:(

I emailed soto's info addy asking for the not-included compatability list and haven't heard back from them. Did your burner packaging include the list?

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 10:14 PM
I emailed soto's info addy asking for the not-included compatability list and haven't heard back from them. Did your burner packaging include the list?I'm not spending part of my dividend on this until I know I can continue to use it after the first lighter is empty. I really want this to work out tho. Right now I use a big bottle of bernzOmatic with a brazing torch on top. Handy but not very packable.

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 10:38 PM
I'm going bonkers searching for "vista cigarette lighter"

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
bingo! (http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ACEDISP&Category_Code=hbdl) Not a Vista but it is adjustable and square and cheap.

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
The LIST (http://www.batteriesandbutter.com/page/bb/CTGY/hbdl&sr=goog?gclid=CIOYypvqjKECFQpciAodri3PQQ) I'm working through.
Settled on this search string: disposable butane cigarette lighter

jacdaw
04-16-2010, 10:59 PM
And on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=disposable+lighters&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=4214296855&ref=pd_sl_80mj1lxbk_b)

Crash
04-26-2010, 08:04 PM
Found that Walgreen's sells a lighter that fits and works perfectly in the Soto. Brand name is Aries and it's very inexpensive. After a week of use in the Gila National Forest in New Mexico above 5,000' with some cold temps, I can heartily give the Soto two thumbs up as a useable and practical tool for starting Coleman stoves, lamps, and fires of all sorts. Fire good and the torch lit up every time, no problemo.
As an addendum, I never heard back from Soto's North American distributor regarding the compatible lighters list the instructions referred to but wasn't included in the packaging. That's not too cool but, find the right lighter, as I did, and the lighter is hot - 2300 degress farenheit per the claims made for it.

jacdaw
04-27-2010, 01:33 AM
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