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CBone
02-27-2010, 09:32 PM
First thing I want to say is I know this thread is useless without pictures. Ricardo took a ton of 'em today and posted them to the FTP site for me to include with this post. However, I can't seem to figure it out, so the pics will come eventually.

Had a great day installing OME heavy-heavy lift on my 60. Crash and I started at 8:30 with donuts and coffee. By 9, the troops started filtering in, we had Ricardo, Sasha (NattyBumpo), Dean B. and my buddy Chris. By 10, the donuts were gone and by 11, we had everything 25 years old and related to suspension off the truck.

I have two words for ya...MAPP gas is good. Oh yeah, that's four words, but after you've burned off a few bushings and Crash's garage is filled with noxious fumes, 2 words, 4 words, who the heck cares cause the bushings are on fire, the leaf springs are on the floor.

By 6pm this evening my 60 had grown up. The crew knocked out the install of all new shocks, leafs, bushings, shackles, etc. Everything came off and went on without really any hangups. We learned from Crash that more grease is better, we learned from Dean that the back of a 40 can carry almost any tool known to man and no worries if it ain't in the back of Dean's 40, cause Crash's garage has at least two of them, in both 3/8" and 1/2" drive.

Thinking back on the day there was really only one glitch. Some newbie to OME installs said torque, smorque, who cares about those clicks that tell me I should stop tightening that shock bolt. Oh yeah, that was me and yes, I kept tightening that little bugger until, you guessed it, it broke off. No worries, Dean breaks out some tool and was able to drill out the old bolt and Sasha ran up to the hardware store and found a replacement--Sasha, I owe you money for that bolt!

As soon as we get pics posted, you'll see it looks great. We went up 5" in the rear and about 4" in the front. It's only a 2-3" lift and will settle in time.

Thanks so much to Steve, Dean, Ricardo, Sasha and Chris for their help today and what a great day! Need to get some new tires to fill those HUGE gaps in my wheel wells and then I'll be good to go.

TIMZTOY
02-27-2010, 10:24 PM
2-3" springs... but what shackles did ya use ;) stock or lift shackles because that will also lift it up and leaf springs should only settle about 1" and they should be 2-3" after they settle. but you problly know that.

wesintl
02-27-2010, 10:28 PM
you're going to need to resize
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/uploads/cbone/lift60/P2270297.JPG
P2260257 -P2270297

CBone
02-27-2010, 10:38 PM
We used OME anti-inversion shackles.

And, I forgot to mention, what an AMAZING ride. Wasn't sure if the heavy-heavy would be too stiff, but the truck drives really well.

I will snap a pic tomorrow and do the before-after comparison.

corsair23
02-27-2010, 11:46 PM
Very :cool:

wesintl
02-28-2010, 08:12 AM
cool, you have tlc calipers? doo they help?

Nice work , I can't wait to see the full after pics

rover67
02-28-2010, 08:25 AM
I was amazed at the difference in handling when I went to the OME heavies from the stock springs too.

Sounds like your driveline angles worked out if you aren't reporting any vibration issues, that's great.

Looks great Carlton!

MDH33
02-28-2010, 08:58 AM
Awesome! :cool:

I'm sooo jealous! :thumb:

Hulk
02-28-2010, 09:56 AM
Nice. 37" tires next? :D

Art Volmer
02-28-2010, 09:57 AM
Can not wait to see it at the meeting :thumb:

RockRunner
02-28-2010, 10:13 AM
Looking good, looks like you all worked hard on it.:beer:

The best picture is still the one of Steve with his Puppies :D

CBone
02-28-2010, 10:25 AM
here's the before and after...look at those shiny new shackles glistening in the sun :thumb:

MDH33
02-28-2010, 10:33 AM
Looks great. So, what are going to put on it for tires?

CBone
02-28-2010, 10:45 AM
Since pretty much all my travel is up into the mountains, and I am not inclined to regear at this time, from the research I've done, I'm thinking probably 31x10.50s. I like both the Yokohama Geolander AT/S or the BFG AT K/Os

Martin, how are things up in the mountain. Are you and the Mrs. getting any sleep?

MDH33
02-28-2010, 11:17 AM
Since pretty much all my travel is up into the mountains, and I am not inclined to regear at this time, from the research I've done, I'm thinking probably 31x10.50s. I like both the Yokohama Geolander AT/S or the BFG AT K/Os

Martin, how are things up in the mountain. Are you and the Mrs. getting any sleep?

I'm running 31x10.50's on my 60 with no lift, so I bet they'll look small with your new lift. I would go at least 33x10.50's. I don't think you'll feel the need to regear with 33's. Heck, I'm running 34's on my 40 with stock gearing.

Man, seeing your 60 get all set up really makes me want to get working on mine. First would need to be the engine though.

Things are going well aside from not getting any sleep. Mom and baby are healthy and we're all learning the new routine. :thumb:

wesintl
02-28-2010, 11:29 AM
31's will look small. i wouldn't go with anything narrower than a 10.5 either.

i would regear but i would regear by dropping in 4.11 diffs. easy to do. it'll get you closer back to stock and be much happier going up the hills to the mtns.

DaveInDenver
02-28-2010, 12:14 PM
Yeah, 33x9.50 or 33x10.50 tires usually look just right on OME lifted trucks.

Hulk
02-28-2010, 04:23 PM
Carlton, do you have a 60 or a 62? If it's a 62, you already have 4.11 gears.

It looks like a 62 from the side with those big mirrors.

Crash
02-28-2010, 04:25 PM
Carlton, do you have a 60 or a 62? If it's a 62, you already have 4.11 gears.

It looks like a 62 from the side with those big mirrors.

Check out his signature line.

DaveInDenver
02-28-2010, 05:23 PM
Man, that 1985 FJ60 would look awesome with a bull bar, too.

CBone
02-28-2010, 06:09 PM
Stopped by Crash's today to put the front stabilizer bar on and based on all these comments about 31s being too small and 33s being ideal, Steve was cool enough to let me throw his 34-10fiddi suppa swampers on. Now, it looks sweet and worst of it is the :Princess: loved how the truck looked and asked when she can take it for a drive! Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.

To address a few questions, yep, she's a 60 Matt with 62 mirrors. Wes, I like the TLC calipers, but need to update my master brake cylinder to either a T100 or 80 before ABS--need more juice to optimize those babies.

Enjoy the pics cause I'm lovin' the rig right now.

MountainGoat
02-28-2010, 06:13 PM
Dang Carlton that thing looks gnarly tuff!

wesintl
02-28-2010, 06:22 PM
hoochi mama that looks schweet

corsair23
02-28-2010, 06:24 PM
Schwing :D

Go with the BIG tires Carlton :thumb: - It looks AWESOME!

Uncle Ben
02-28-2010, 07:05 PM
That is really Schaweet! Good on ya mate! :thumb::thumb:

nattybumppo
02-28-2010, 07:17 PM
Carlton, those swampers look aweful nice! I did some weight research. My 31 inch michelins on 21 lb aluminum rims total 64 lbs. My steel wheels are 3 lbs more. So...33/10.50 BFG KM2 tires on an aluminum rim would be 70 lbs...only three lbs more than when I had my tires on steelies, and it ran fine. That tall, bad boy deserves 33s. I think your gearing would be fine.

Jacket
02-28-2010, 07:19 PM
Man - that 60 looks great! Nice work.

Crash
02-28-2010, 07:26 PM
It's a slippery slope we weave.....when you return the tires you can see what the pre-80 master cylinder looks like attached to a 62 booster and maybe check the ARB on the front a little closer than you have before. And....
:thumb:

Uncle Ben
02-28-2010, 07:31 PM
It's a slippery slope we weave.....
:thumb:

Did Carlton jump in on the fridge deal? ;):p::lmao::bolt:

MDH33
02-28-2010, 07:45 PM
LTB'S on the 60.... :grinpimp::headbang::smokin::cool:

Jacket
02-28-2010, 07:50 PM
Too bad those aren't 16" rims. 265/75/16 would be a nice compromise and is widely available in AT tires..

Interco makes 32x10.5 in the TSL radial...

Jacket
02-28-2010, 07:51 PM
How long before there's a "60/62's only run?"

Crash
02-28-2010, 08:34 PM
"worst of it is the :Princess: loved how the truck looked and asked when she can take it for a drive!"

I think the bumpers, winch, fridge, gears, sliders etc, etc, etc, can't be off too far in the future with a :Princess: like Carlton's. And he says that's the worst of it?!?!? Wow!

rover67
02-28-2010, 08:56 PM
Dang, that thing reeeeealy looks good now.. :D

L43dean
02-28-2010, 08:59 PM
"worst of it is the :Princess: loved how the truck looked and asked when she can take it for a drive!"

I think the bumpers, winch, fridge, gears, sliders etc, etc, etc, can't be off too far in the future with a :Princess: like Carlton's. And he says that's the worst of it?!?!? Wow!

When she can take it for a drive? "You can do what cha ya like out there boys(girls) as long as the paperwork's clean!"

DaveInDenver
02-28-2010, 09:51 PM
How long before there's a "60/62's only run?"
Pretty soon we'll have sub-divided everyone to the point that we're all just driving alone. Fanditalytastic.

RicardoJM
03-01-2010, 07:03 AM
The 34s look real nice on there. 31 or 33, I don't think you can go wrong either way.

LARGEONE
03-01-2010, 07:14 AM
I see some new gears in the future, Carlton. The 34s are perfect, but they come with a few more expensive mods in my opinion. You could probably get away with a lighter 33 inch, but it will be sluggish over the passes...a small reminder you still drive an old toyota land cruiser!!! Might be worth the cool points you get on the looks!

FJBRADY
03-01-2010, 09:09 AM
Wow what a transformation.....looks great!

Crash
03-01-2010, 09:21 AM
I see some new gears in the future, Carlton. The 34s are perfect, but they come with a few more expensive mods in my opinion. You could probably get away with a lighter 33 inch, but it will be sluggish over the passes...a small reminder you still drive an old toyota land cruiser!!! Might be worth the cool points you get on the looks!

Next, Carlton is going to try my 285/75/16s to see how they compare to the 34s. Then he is going to try Sasha's 31x10.50s before he makes up his mind.
Oh yeah, CBC ROCKS!!!

Jacket
03-01-2010, 11:39 AM
Pretty soon we'll have sub-divided everyone to the point that we're all just driving alone. Fanditalytastic.

Certainly true in my case. The last "late model Tacomas" run ended up being me and Sam fishing near Caribou.

nakman
03-01-2010, 11:44 AM
Hey Carlton is your rig 25 years old now? I forgot the law change, can you still get the 5 year collector's plate registration then never deal with Air Care Colorado again? If so that would definitely be in your best interest, before you get all big and stuff.. yeah I'm a little hyper-sensitive to the emissions process right now.. :rolleyes:


But man your 60 looks sweet now :bowdown:



hijack: Matt I have actually thought of a Taco run.. we should do one this summer. And yes it would definitely involve cooking/eating tacos.

wesintl
03-01-2010, 11:46 AM
ha, they changed that too and screw'd us all

rover67
03-01-2010, 12:33 PM
yep, I missed the cut-off with my truck by a tiny amount.

Crash
03-01-2010, 12:41 PM
Looking good, looks like you all worked hard on it.:beer:

The best picture is still the one of Steve with his Puppies :D

Tom, your puppies reference is a little too vague. Is this what you are referring too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnsnLTKig6Q

FJBRADY
03-01-2010, 01:11 PM
Tom, your puppies reference is a little too vague. Is this what you are referring too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnsnLTKig6Q

Sweater puppies :drool:

Hulk
03-01-2010, 01:52 PM
hijack: Matt I have actually thought of a Taco run.. we should do one this summer. And yes it would definitely involve cooking/eating tacos.

I'm going to organize a "square bezels only" FJ40 run. I wonder how granular we can make this?

L43dean
03-01-2010, 02:10 PM
I'm going to organize a "square bezels only" FJ40 run. I wonder how granular we can make this?

How about a "square bezels with puppies" feature run for all?

Crash
03-01-2010, 04:12 PM
I'm going to organize a "square bezels only" FJ40 run. I wonder how granular we can make this?

Yup, with our new political/controversial section, we seem to have factionalized the club to its detriment. Not a good thing, IMO, and the reason I don't participate in that section. This club should be about having fun, helping friends with the heavy lifting, teaching, sharing experiences, drinking beer, socializing, blah, blah, blah. KISS
:cheers:

FJBRADY
03-01-2010, 04:15 PM
Yup, with our new political/controversial section, we seem to have factionalized the club to its detriment. Not a good thing, IMO, and the reason I don't participate in that section. This club should be about having fun, helping friends with the heavy lifting, teaching, sharing experiences, drinking beer, socializing, blah, blah, blah. KISS
:cheers:

Hey hey now...just keep posting up those great youtube video's:woot:

DaveInDenver
03-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Yup, with our new political/controversial section, we seem to have factionalized the club to its detriment. Not a good thing, IMO, and the reason I don't participate in that section. This club should be about having fun, helping friends with the heavy lifting, teaching, sharing experiences, drinking beer, socializing, blah, blah, blah. KISS
:cheers:
I'm used to camping and driving alone. Meh, I'll just sing and dance along with the sound of the hallucinated band in my head.

Crash
03-01-2010, 04:23 PM
I'm used to camping and driving alone. Meh, I'll just sing and dance along with the sound of the hallucinated band in my head.

Is it because of the IFS thing? :hill:

Hulk
03-01-2010, 04:39 PM
Yup, with our new political/controversial section, we seem to have factionalized the club to its detriment. Not a good thing, IMO, and the reason I don't participate in that section. This club should be about having fun, helping friends with the heavy lifting, teaching, sharing experiences, drinking beer, socializing, blah, blah, blah. KISS
:cheers:

The guys that post up in the political/controversial section are among my favorite friends (even though it often seems like I'm the only one left of center). We moved the politics to our own little corner so we could continue on without annoying everyone else. We enjoy the discussion, and also enjoy the beer drinking.

I was kidding about the square bezel club. It might be too inclusive. I'm looking to plan a run that none of us qualify for. Then we can all crash it.

MDH33
03-01-2010, 04:53 PM
...
I'm looking to plan a run that none of us qualify for. Then we can all crash it.

So that would be the civilized, good-looking, gentleman's only run? :hill: Sounds perfect. :hill:

Mendocino
03-01-2010, 05:03 PM
Maybe we should have a Political/Controversial Topics Run. We could all show up, do the run, camp somewhere, drink beer and talk about the following topics:

Obama's ____________ policy
Evils of George Bush
Global warming
Health care
US Income Tax
US census
Sarah Palin
Guns
Religion
Abortion
???

:D

BTW-Carlton; that things is beautiful!:thumb:

Hulk
03-01-2010, 05:15 PM
Maybe we should have a Political/Controversial Topics Run. We could all show up, do the run, camp somewhere, drink beer and talk about the following topics:

Obama's ____________ policy
Evils of George Bush
Global warming
Health care
US Income Tax
US census
Sarah Palin
Guns
Religion
Abortion
???

:D

That sounds like a plan, but you know the topic will quickly shift to swapping gears or the benefits of TIG welding or locker comparisons. I know political discussions don't much interest me when I have a beer in my hand. However, I'm still willing to make fun of Sarah Palin.

Mendocino
03-01-2010, 05:16 PM
However, I'm still willing to make fun of Sarah Palin.

Bwahahah! Me too!:thumb:

nattybumppo
03-01-2010, 07:36 PM
Wow what a hijack. Were we talking about Carlton's 60 leaning to the left or him leaning right? Is his bezel square or are his old tires out of round? Is his truck too old on not old enough? (The collector plate is now issued for only 1975 amd earlier rigs...no emissions at all. But anything newer is emissions every two years.)

Carlton, pm me for phone number ad we can throw my whole 31/1050 set on to see how it looks to you)

TIMZTOY
03-01-2010, 09:56 PM
Stopped by Crash's today to put the front stabilizer bar on and based on all these comments about 31s being too small and 33s being ideal, Steve was cool enough to let me throw his 34-10fiddi suppa swampers on. Now, it looks sweet and worst of it is the :Princess: loved how the truck looked and asked when she can take it for a drive! Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.

To address a few questions, yep, she's a 60 Matt with 62 mirrors. Wes, I like the TLC calipers, but need to update my master brake cylinder to either a T100 or 80 before ABS--need more juice to optimize those babies.

Enjoy the pics cause I'm lovin' the rig right now.

looks hella good man.. now ya just need arb bull bars.. :D

rover67
03-01-2010, 10:07 PM
looks hella good man.. now ya just need arb bull bars.. :D

or some "rover67" bumpers :)

CBone
03-02-2010, 09:13 AM
hey Marco, you building bumpers these days?

MDH33
03-02-2010, 09:23 AM
hey Marco, you building bumpers these days?

That's the ticket. Maybe Marco can build you something with custom rear quarter protection to fit your custom rear quarters. :thumb:

CBone
03-02-2010, 09:30 AM
'tis a slippery slope indeed :cool:

rover67
03-02-2010, 10:18 AM
I could help you make your own if ya wanted, we can pattern it off of mine.

good opportunity to learn how to :weld: :D

nakman
03-02-2010, 10:25 AM
I could help you make your own if ya wanted, we can pattern it off of mine.

good opportunity to learn how to :weld: :D

Just make sure to leave some cut-outs for clear turn signal lenses.. :D