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PatrolMan
08-28-2010, 06:30 PM
Looking to buy either a 1985-1988 Toyota Custom Cab that seats 5 people and has the fiberglass extension on the back, or a late 1980's Toyota 4x4 van. If anyone knows of one available, let me know! Thanks!

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-Jeff

L43dean
08-28-2010, 08:05 PM
FYI; This van outside the USA is known as a "Hi-Ace".

PatrolMan
08-28-2010, 08:19 PM
Yeah. I guess it got a different name basically in each country, with a couple using HiAce. In the USA it is "van". How creative, huh.

nakman
08-28-2010, 08:24 PM
What crazy plan you got cookin', P-Man? going to drop a Miata engine in one?

PatrolMan
08-28-2010, 08:34 PM
My wife and I are expecting our first child February 2nd. I am voting to name him/her Phil. Regardless, my POS 2 seater truck isn't going to cut it any longer. In need of a rig that is a bit more family friendly and can still haul a considerable amount. Always liked the vans, but the Custom Cab is so darn handy... Either way, doing some shopping. Still have 5 months.

nakman
08-28-2010, 09:07 PM
Awesome, congrats!!! :woot:

PatrolMan
08-28-2010, 09:09 PM
Yeah. We are excited, but it also means a 180 turn in our lifestyle. Dirt bikes and scooters are being sold. Same with all the Miata's except for one. It will be well worth it though. :)

nakman
08-28-2010, 09:37 PM
Yeah. We are excited, but it also means a 180 turn in our lifestyle.... It will be well worth it though. :)

Agreed!


so... any Patrols for sale? :D

PatrolMan
08-28-2010, 09:52 PM
I only have one remaining and then a big pile of parts to make another. Basically it is just scooters, smaller tents, dirt bikes, Miata's, and likely my truck when I find something to replace it. Would prefer the Custom Cab truck to move all the goodies over from my current 87.

DanS
08-28-2010, 11:13 PM
There was one (Custom Cab) for sale in NM recently. My Dad drove it (my brother was looking for one). I'll ask him tomorrow for details...

I'm not sure that the frame stretch was done real well on those, the fiberglass cab doesn't seem like the safest thing on earth, and the turning radius pretty much sucks. But they are SOOOOO cool.

Find one with a dead engine, swap in a 3L/Turbo or a 1KZ-TE and you've got one of the coolest rigs on the planet.

Dan

Beater
08-29-2010, 07:52 AM
I might be in for one of the miata's. I need a commuter car

PatrolMan
08-29-2010, 09:01 AM
I actually had one of the custom cabs 7+ years ago. It drives like a school bus so won't be on any tight trails or doing u-turns. Also, it isn't any faster with the 22r and an extra 30+ inches of frame/body/d-shaft. Nobody ever rode in the back seat so I eventually sold it. The frames were actually modified correctly and wasn't an issue. The fiberglass cab is a bit scary, but there is an interior roll bar. I would also add some sort of exterior protection. That is why I thought the van would be a good alternative. Can carry tall items and/or 7 people where my 4Runner can't.

MDH33
09-01-2010, 10:31 AM
I've always thought the vans were pretty cool. Saw these on CL:

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1919652934.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1923625324.html

:beer:

Also, from experience, you will not be wanting to lift a kid into and out of a rig that doesn't have rear doors for the backseat. The van would be a better choice for a kid-hauler.:twocents:

SteveH
09-01-2010, 03:22 PM
I have driven those vans, and your knees appear to be part of the bumper/crash absorbing system. They are funky to the max when you go around a corner, since you sit ahead of the wheels. I'd sure look for a 5 speed model, since they have low-range and manual hubs. The auto-trans trucks don't have low range and most have auto-hubs.

DaveInDenver
09-01-2010, 03:59 PM
I have driven those vans, and your knees appear to be part of the bumper/crash absorbing system. They are funky to the max when you go around a corner, since you sit ahead of the wheels. I'd sure look for a 5 speed model, since they have low-range and manual hubs. The auto-trans trucks don't have low range and most have auto-hubs.
Being that the drivetrain is pretty much the same junk as the pickup and 4Runner, wonder if things could be swapped. That second one Martin linked is a non-running auto and he seemed pretty willing to move down from his asking $1,200.

gahi
09-01-2010, 05:21 PM
I had an '87 2wd 5spd van my last year in High School and for a few years after. It was awesome. They are kind of weird feeling doing U-turns, but you can pretty much do one in 2 lanes. I used to haul my XR650R in it, just compress the front shocks get it in there, and let go, it would hold itself in (stupid I know, but remember I was in high school) Never crashed it but it wouldn't be good. Working on them is a huge pain, you tilt the drivers seat forward. I once had a radiator cap eruption, it shot up hit the ceiling then sprayed all over everything, the seats, dash, floor, me. If i remember right it got 25 or so mpg. Drove to the east coast twice in it, weekly runs W.P. to Denver. Hauled lots of Band equipment (and the band). 75-85 mph was easy, had it to 105 once coming down coffee divide.
I'd definitely own one again, but I'd go for the 4wd. I've seen a couple come through Moab with a westfalia style poptop on them.

PatrolMan
09-01-2010, 09:22 PM
Yeah, I have been doing some research. The 5 speeds came with the 4-lo and manual hubs (some had auto hubs). I really just prefer a manual since I can drive one, and I can do ALL the work on a manual trans. More control too. The one in Nederland is pretty pricey. I am holding out for cheaper. The one for $1,000 has been posted for a year or more. I missed one a week ago for $500 that needed a clutch, and another over the weekend for $1,200 that was a 5-speed running and driving. The sell FAST for the 4x4 and 5-speed. It is cool they are based on the truck. Good sturdy rigs but a PITA to work on as stated.

Good news is there is no rush and I am not dead set on one so the hunt continues!

SteveH
09-02-2010, 08:34 AM
The 4x4 models have 5-lug wheel hubs (as do the 2WD), so they underpinnings are not just straight-up minitruck parts.

leiniesred
09-02-2010, 09:28 AM
My mom had one of those silver Toyota vans in the 80s.

Apparently, it also has regional names.
We called it, "the toaster."

It was interesting because you could slide an entire 4x8 sheet of plywood in there, (had to lift it over the speaker bulges to load it) and then close the back tailgate all the way! SPACIOUS!

Working on it was a royal pain. Possibly the worst thing I've ever worked on.
And crashing it? You can feel the back of the headlights with your toes if you are barefoot. Drive it as if you are an aztec sacrifice strapped to the front and you should be OK.

MDH33
09-02-2010, 10:01 AM
Drive it as if you are an aztec sacrifice strapped to the front and you should be OK.

:lmao::D

Man Jerk
09-02-2010, 10:43 AM
My dad bought one brand new off the lot in 86, and eventually I inherited it.

There are no mini truck parts on these. Axles are 5 lug, engine is like a 3Y or something, I don't know anything about the transmissions or t-cases but they are not mini truck parts.

Maintainance can be challenging with the drivers seat / hood configuration.

I did fit 14 people inside it once with the seats out. I remember my dad chose it because it was smaller than a cargo van, but bigger than a mini van. There are some super optioned models out there too. Ice chests, moon roofs, captains chairs etc.

wesintl
09-02-2010, 10:53 AM
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1988/2001/4968500005_large.jpg

DaveInDenver
09-02-2010, 11:13 AM
My dad bought one brand new off the lot in 86, and eventually I inherited it.

There are no mini truck parts on these. Axles are 5 lug, engine is like a 3Y or something, I don't know anything about the transmissions or t-cases but they are not mini truck parts.

Maintainance can be challenging with the drivers seat / hood configuration.

I did fit 14 people inside it once with the seats out. I remember my dad chose it because it was smaller than a cargo van, but bigger than a mini van. There are some super optioned models out there too. Ice chests, moon roofs, captains chairs etc.
I was grossly misinformed, I understood that they were similar to the early Hilux since they have 5-lug wheels on 2WD (the only van I'd seen up close was a 2WD). My mistake. I'd always sorta wanted one because I thought the parts were interchangeable. I suppose it's back to even par with an old VW Syncro.

MDH33
09-02-2010, 11:21 AM
One of the non-usa 4wd hiace campers would be fun too:

http://campervans.biz/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/-25182305170166940.jpg

MDH33
09-02-2010, 11:22 AM
The one in Nederland is pretty pricey. I am holding out for cheaper.

have you seen what vw syncros go for? :rolleyes:

Man Jerk
09-02-2010, 11:23 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=838606&highlight=death+metal

FJBRADY
09-02-2010, 11:32 AM
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1988/2001/4968500005_large.jpg

Nice picture Wes....what trail were you on? :hill:

corsair23
09-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Apparently, it also has regional names.
We called it, "the toaster."

Hmmm...That's what I use to call the Toyota Tercel wagons....Toyota Toasters :hill:

PatrolMan
09-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Yeah, the Syncro is WAY over-priced, and not to mention, it is not a Toyota, and I would hate working on a VW again. The nice thing on the Toyota vans is they have torsion bars apparently, very similar to the IFS trucks of 86-95. They have a 4 link coil sprung rear if I remember right with a 7.5" rear diff that is based on the 2wd trucks. Same basic housing and diff, but obviously different config for the 4 link. Other than that, they are 100% different, but never hurts to learn something new. :)

wesintl
09-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Nice picture Wes....what trail were you on? :hill:

it was on chinaman's with randy :hill: :lmao: :beer:

MDH33
09-21-2010, 09:07 PM
custom cab:

http://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/1965706588.html

corsair23
09-21-2010, 09:48 PM
custom cab:

http://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/1965706588.html

As cool as those are, IMO getting a baby in and out of the back would be a royal PITA in short order.

hyperboarder
09-22-2010, 06:42 AM
You see this one: http://forum.ih8mud.com/vehicles-trailers-sale-wanted/386494-1987-toyota-4x4-custom-cab-northern-wyoming.html

Man Jerk
09-22-2010, 08:30 AM
As cool as those are, IMO getting a baby in and out of the back would be a royal PITA in short order.

Have you tried this in a first gen 4runner?? I've done it for almost 2.5 years now and it's inconvenient, but not impossible.

PatrolMan
09-26-2010, 09:06 PM
custom cab:

http://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/1965706588.html

Thanks for the headsup. I will be contacting him!

PatrolMan
09-26-2010, 09:07 PM
Have you tried this in a first gen 4runner?? I've done it for almost 2.5 years now and it's inconvenient, but not impossible.

I have a 1st gen 4Runner that I will use most days. It just doesn't haul plywood, rocks, bricks, etc quite like a truck. Can't get through life without a true truck.

PatrolMan
09-26-2010, 09:11 PM
You see this one: http://forum.ih8mud.com/vehicles-trailers-sale-wanted/386494-1987-toyota-4x4-custom-cab-northern-wyoming.html

Yeah, he has had that for sale for some time. Been in touch on/off. It is in northern Wyoming. Quite a trek...

PatrolMan
10-03-2010, 09:50 PM
custom cab:

http://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/1965706588.html

I called with no response. No email link in CL. Maybe it is sold. Who knows.

PatrolMan
10-03-2010, 09:53 PM
So I ended up with a PAIR of 4wd vans. The guy basically said it was a package deal, if you want one, you take both. The tan one runs/drives and is manual trans with 4hi/low. The other (blue) is an auto with push button 4-hi. That one needs a fuel pump to run. Pics attached of my wonderful find. The :princess: is terribly impressed. :)

PatrolMan
10-03-2010, 09:54 PM
Pics of blue automatic