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satchel
09-10-2010, 12:47 PM
Title says it all, anybody got one laying around?

hyperboarder
09-10-2010, 01:17 PM
Do you want the 4.11s or just a 3rd member? I'm swapping 4.11's into my 60 so I'll have the 3.70's after I get done if that's what you need.

satchel
09-10-2010, 02:52 PM
I need the 4.11's.

AddictedOffroad
09-10-2010, 04:47 PM
There is a 62 at Anderson's Sales and Salvage up in Greeley right now. Both 3rds were there last I checked.

satchel
09-21-2010, 06:31 PM
The salvage yards I've contacted all want in excess of $300 which seems really steep to me. I was expecting $100. Same for all the parts places online.

No one knows anyone with a 62 they are parting out? I know nuclearlemon was but I think she sold the rear end already.

Edit: For those of you watching my tires bind as I drove by on the Ouray trip, I have 4.11's in the front and 3.73's in the back. The prior owner blew the rear diff at some point and I have a receipt from the shop that says it was replaced, so they must have thought the fj60 and fj62 3rd's were the same.

corsair23
09-22-2010, 10:58 AM
What about just gears and not the entire third? Maybe someone has changed out gears and has some old 4.11s laying around?

I know little to nothing about diffs and gears. But, based on this (http://www.desertcruzer.com/elock1.htm) I know the 80 series rear has 4.10s vs. 4.11 but that is closer than 3.73s right? Maybe a lot of work to go through to still not have it exactly right but I bet you could find some 4.10s from an 80 pretty cheap...Heck, I've got my set from when I swapped to 4.88s sitting in my garage.

Flame away if my idea is way out there :hill:

satchel
09-22-2010, 11:08 AM
Honestly, I've never changed out a 3rd before, so I thought I would just go for the whole assembly to make sure I'm not missing anything when I get in there. That said, I would still rather wait and get 4.11's and do it right. I doubt I would notice a difference between the 4.11's and 4.10's, but I'd rather only do this once with the correct gears.

DaveInDenver
09-22-2010, 11:13 AM
I know the 80 series rear has 4.10s vs. 4.11 but that is closer than 3.73s right
The front is 4.11:1 on them, though. The reason for this is the front diff in an 80 is an 8" like in Hiluxes. That means the ratio is 37 teeth on the ring and 9 on the pinion, so 37/9 = 4.11:1. There are only about 1 gazillion of these ratios in mini trucks... The reason for this is while a 41 tooth ring will fit (e.g. 41/9 = 4.56 another very common mini truck ratio), the largest pinion gear that will work in an 8" has 9 teeth.

In the bigger Cruiser diffs the ring is 41 teeth and the pinion is 10, thus 41/10 = 4.10:1. This is the way it was delivered from Toyota and 0.01 diff is not a problem. You could have that much from tire diameter variance, tire pressure, load. Maybe this is uber covered ground already on Mud or whatever, but I don't see why the RR third or gears from an 80 would not work.

Air Randy
09-22-2010, 12:28 PM
Well, since it's a 62 and uses the same 9.5" diff as a 60 which uses the same diff as a 40, 80 & mini truck diffs won't fit.

BlackDiamond72 has 2 4.10 diffs for sale 1 thread below yours. I has a locker in it and 1 is open, either will work for you.

DaveInDenver
09-22-2010, 12:40 PM
Well, since it's a 62 and uses the same 9.5" diff as a 60 which uses the same diff as a 40, 80 & mini truck diffs won't fit.
The rear axle on 80 series is 9.5". I was suggesting something that is probably a no-brainer in Cruiserdom, that the 41/10 gear set is all the same from an FJ40/55/60/62 FR/RR and FJ80 RR and secondarily replying to Jeff that the 4.10/4.11 thing is no problem since that slight difference is already present in the FJ80/FZJ80 which uses mixed 8" and 9.5" axles.

satchel
09-22-2010, 12:41 PM
Thanks for the help Randy. I've emailed him for the open diff. Kind of sucks because I have an aussie on the way as well, should have just gotten it all from him. Anyway, I just want to make sure that his FJ40 4.10 3rd member will be a direct bolt in for my FJ62.

wesintl
09-22-2010, 12:54 PM
you'll likely need some kind of flange to bolt up the DS. There is more than 1 way to go about it but this should help you understand it.

http://cruiseroutfitters.com/tech_flange.html

satchel
09-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Thanks for that info. It looks like the splines are different between the two housings so I guess I should avoid the one he is selling and just try to stick with finding an FJ62.

subzali
09-22-2010, 02:06 PM
Thanks for that info. It looks like the splines are different between the two housings so I guess I should avoid the one he is selling and just try to stick with finding an FJ62.

Yes, that would be your best option, if you can wait. It's not so much a problem with the spline being different as it is that the coarse spline diff has a different flange with a different bolt configuration than the fine spline one. $300 is probably about the going rate from a junkyard, or like someone said you could "just" get the gears and swap them using your same 3rd member. But to pay someone to do that or to buy the additional parts that normally are required for that swap, plus the time to do that swap, may not be what you are wanting.

AddictedOffroad
09-22-2010, 03:00 PM
The salvage yards I've contacted all want in excess of $300 which seems really steep to me. I was expecting $100. Same for all the parts places online.

No one knows anyone with a 62 they are parting out? I know nuclearlemon was but I think she sold the rear end already.

Edit: For those of you watching my tires bind as I drove by on the Ouray trip, I have 4.11's in the front and 3.73's in the back. The prior owner blew the rear diff at some point and I have a receipt from the shop that says it was replaced, so they must have thought the fj60 and fj62 3rd's were the same.

Andersons gets $135 for the whole front axle. Same for the rear. They don't care if you take the whole axle or just the 3rd. Same price.

They will hit you for calipers and rotors though, so if you have cores you can bring them. I was out there last Fri again and its still there with the axles.

satchel
09-22-2010, 03:23 PM
I haven't been able to get them on the phone, but I will keep trying them. Thanks everyone.

AddictedOffroad
09-22-2010, 04:28 PM
I haven't been able to get them on the phone, but I will keep trying them. Thanks everyone.

Anderson's is a pic n pull. You need to go out yourself and get it. That is what keeps the cost down.

Air Randy
09-23-2010, 10:21 PM
If you can get the entire FJ62 axle for $135 go that route. A stock third member by itself usually goes for $30-$50 minimum. You can sell the housing and axles or keep them for spares.

I would double check with BlackDiamond before writing off his diffs. He has a mix of stuff from various years (like a 1975 2F) so don't assume both third members are coarse spline 1969 vintage. Even if they are, you can get a multi-pattern flange from Marlin Crawler for $25. Just take the pinion nut off, install a new seal and crush washer, then torque the pinion nut down with the new flange. They will fit any driveshaft pattern made by Toyota.

Assuming the drive shaft flange is not an issue, or you install a Marlin Crawler flange, the FJ40 diff will be a direct bolt-in for you.

RedCreeper
09-24-2010, 03:13 PM
seen this may not help but thought of you.....

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=11618778&cat=402&lpid=4&search=

satchel
09-24-2010, 03:53 PM
Unfortunately, that is the exact diff I have in it now (fj60 with 3.73) and I need FJ62 with 4.11. I appreciate you keeping an eye out though.