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Romer
10-23-2010, 02:54 PM
This is a common problem and it seems to be the charcoal canister saturating with fuel. I learned through this process that topping off is not a good thing to do as well.

The OEM Charcoal canister is about $250 with our discount. This is a cheaper solution some on Mud have tried

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/412261-charcoal-canister-great-option.html

nakman
10-23-2010, 03:06 PM
that's awesome, thanks for the tip Ken! and let us know what you think of it.. :thumb:

Jacket
10-24-2010, 08:53 AM
Yea - pretty cool. I haven't noticed any bad smells, but the back pressure from my tank is fairly high.

Hulk
10-25-2010, 06:16 PM
I may give this a try. Thanks for the link!

Romer
10-25-2010, 06:27 PM
I may give this a try. Thanks for the link!

Started thinking about this when you walked by my truck on slaughterhouse and went "snif snif, my truck has that same gas smell

Inukshuk
10-25-2010, 06:40 PM
I just love that smell!

LARGEONE
03-12-2011, 08:54 AM
I installed an aftermarket canister last weekend (along w/ my LANDTANK Sleeve!) and when I filled up on Thursday, ABSOLUTELY ZERO VENTING from the gas cap!!! Very easy install; however, I was not able to get one of the bottom bolts of the bracket back in with the larger canister. Shouldn't be a problem...I'll take it knowing that I'm not building pressure any more. Very nice!

Inukshuk
03-23-2011, 08:12 PM
I just now installed the one linked to from Mud. I'll add some pictures next.

It is considerably larger in diameter. It fits, but like Romer I did not use the lower bracket because it seemed like too much grief to get the lower bracket on the canister and then place it all back in location. (Tip: remove the straps from the body bracket by removing the three nuts facing the engine block.)

You will need something in the order of a 2.5 x 1/4 (or 3/16) bolt to clamp the bracket to the new canister.

Also, after reading the Mud posts, I modified the dish at the bottom by drilling drain holes. I would have liked to pull the dish off to see how the vent worked but did not want to risk breakage. At least now it will not hold water.

Inukshuk
03-25-2011, 11:52 AM
1. About how close the bracket closes on OEM Canister (the ends touch when tightened).
2. About how close the bracket closes on replacement aftermarket Canister.
3. Bottom of replacement aftermarket Canister as delivered.
4. Bottom of replacement aftermarket Canister as drilled for drainage.
5. Replacement aftermarket Canister installed showing 2.5 inch bolt.

SteveH
03-25-2011, 01:29 PM
I called around on this...

Autozone and Pep Boys are ~$36 on this canister, and Checker and Adv Auto are ~$54. All need to special order it. I put in the 'request' as being for a '92 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 3.1 v6.

Inukshuk
04-05-2011, 06:29 PM
Zero smell. Zero pressure when opening gas cap.

Steve - the Mud thread has a link. I just ordered online. Was $44 delivered.

LARGEONE
04-05-2011, 10:19 PM
I did the same...bought one for my neighbors 80 as well and shared shipping which wasn't much to begin with. So glad I did this...no more noxious fumes.

treerootCO
04-07-2011, 01:27 PM
Bought one today. On the last few fill ups, I was unable to put gas in until the tank stopped venting. The pressure was enough to turn off the gas pump.

LARGEONE
04-09-2011, 09:59 AM
I didn't really like having to go aftermarket on this, but the price tag for new Toyota just doesn't make sense for this particular part.

nakman
06-26-2012, 09:43 AM
Guys, how is this holding up? And can anyone speculate if I'd have issues trying to put this in a 100 series? Now that it's hot out my 100 smells as bad as, or maybe even worse than, the 80 ever did.. stinks up the whole garage. :(

Inukshuk
06-26-2012, 11:30 AM
Guys, how is this holding up? And can anyone speculate if I'd have issues trying to put this in a 100 series? Now that it's hot out my 100 smells as bad as, or maybe even worse than, the 80 ever did.. stinks up the whole garage. :(

I had a slight gas smell once driving back from Utah. But :perry: was in the truck (:lmao:).

Seriously: no pressure, no smells.

Caribou Sandstorm
06-26-2012, 12:20 PM
I am in the same boat Tim.

Pulled up to Mike Smith's shop yesterday and he was comforted that he was not the only one having this issue in a 100 series. I mentioned it seems to only happen when really hot.

I am not that worried, unless it is time to replace the charcoal filter.

treerootCO
06-26-2012, 12:57 PM
Ethanol, Boiling point
78.37 C (173.1 F)
The boiling point of gasoline varies. At atmospheric pressure 100 and 400F
37.77-204.4C (100-400F)

Corbet
06-26-2012, 01:40 PM
My 80 has just started to show the signs too. Guess I'd better get my order in at the local parts store.

Bighead
06-26-2012, 09:13 PM
My 100 has had the same issue since I bought it. Has this been done on a 100 yet?

nakman
06-26-2012, 09:49 PM
My 100 has had the same issue since I bought it. Has this been done on a 100 yet?

AFAIK not yet, but I'm willing to give it a shot, just need to get to Autozone.. part number is VC120, Duralast/Vapor Canister.

LARGEONE
06-27-2012, 11:25 PM
My aftermarket canister has been in for quite some time now and even with the recent heat...no issues. And no smell!

Rock Dog
06-28-2012, 12:46 AM
Bought one today. On the last few fill ups, I was unable to put gas in until the tank stopped venting. The pressure was enough to turn off the gas pump.

The last 2 fillups i also had to wait for the gas to quit venting before i could fill it.. Has anyone else done the drilling that Daniel did?

Rock Dog
06-28-2012, 06:25 PM
Thought i would share the prices i found for this Vapor Canister here, along with the part numbers at the various stores... looks like Oreily's has the best warranty with limited lifetime.... The others are average 2 years...

Since they all have to be ordered, i am going to see if i can get Oreily's to price match Autozone's price...

=========================================
Pep Boys -->
BWD Fuel Vapor Canister Part # mpn CP1018 SKU: 9780059
Price $35.99 / ea
-------------------------
Autozone -->
Duralast/Vapor Canister Part Number: VC120
Price: $35.99
-----------------------------
Oreilly's -->
BWD - Vapor Canister Part # CP1018
$54.99 Each
----------------------------------
Napa -->
Part Number: CRB 229818 Product Line: Echlin Fuel System
# Fuel Vapor Canister Hose Connectors : 2
Fuel Vapor Canister Diameter : 5 3/16"
Fuel Vapor Canister Hose Size : 1/4", 5/16"
Fuel Vapor Canister Length : 7 3/4"
$49.98 /ea
------------------------------------
CarQuest -->
Vapor Canister Part Number : 73-10006
Price: $58.26
-----------------------------------
Adanced Auto parts -->
BWD Fuel Vapor Canister
Part No. CP1018
$45.39 /ea
=======================================


And of course you can get a plastic factory replacement (even has a Denso part number) for $259.99 at Autozone... over $270 for the same thing at CarQuest...
They are no longer available from Mr. Toyota.... :rolleyes:
-----------------
Autozone -->
Duralast/Vapor Canister Part Number: VC4054
Warranty: 2 YR $259.99
---------------------

Neil.

corsair23
06-28-2012, 06:42 PM
Group buy :)

LOL

Rock Dog
06-28-2012, 08:43 PM
Oreily's matched the $35.99 from Pep Boys, because they also offer a limited lifetime warranty... Autozone's warranty is only 2 years so they would not match that price. It has to be similiar warranties to get the price match.. Glad i took several printouts.
It will arrive from Billings Montana Sat or Mon.....


Thought i would share the prices i found for this Vapor Canister here, along with the part numbers at the various stores... looks like Oreily's has the best warranty with limited lifetime.... The others are average 2 years...

Since they all have to be ordered, i am going to see if i can get Oreily's to price match Autozone's price...

=========================================
Pep Boys -->
BWD Fuel Vapor Canister Part # mpn CP1018 SKU: 9780059
Price $35.99 / ea
-------------------------
Autozone -->
Duralast/Vapor Canister Part Number: VC120
Price: $35.99
-----------------------------
Oreilly's -->
BWD - Vapor Canister Part # CP1018
$54.99 Each
----------------------------------
Napa -->
Part Number: CRB 229818 Product Line: Echlin Fuel System
# Fuel Vapor Canister Hose Connectors : 2
Fuel Vapor Canister Diameter : 5 3/16"
Fuel Vapor Canister Hose Size : 1/4", 5/16"
Fuel Vapor Canister Length : 7 3/4"
$49.98 /ea
------------------------------------
CarQuest -->
Vapor Canister Part Number : 73-10006
Price: $58.26
-----------------------------------
Adanced Auto parts -->
BWD Fuel Vapor Canister
Part No. CP1018
$45.39 /ea
=======================================


And of course you can get a plastic factory replacement (even has a Denso part number) for $259.99 at Autozone... over $270 for the same thing at CarQuest...
They are no longer available from Mr. Toyota.... :rolleyes:
-----------------
Autozone -->
Duralast/Vapor Canister Part Number: VC4054
Warranty: 2 YR $259.99
---------------------

Neil.

Nay
07-12-2012, 11:14 AM
I have replaced with both OEM and the aftermarket. I'd say that the aftermarket completely eliminates vent pressure to a greater extent than OEM, but neither eliminated the vapor smell when hot, although I think the aftermarket holds it down a bit better.

Based on Scangauge II, my temps run in normal ranges. I just don't think these systems are designed to handle today's ethanol mixtures.

subzali
07-17-2012, 01:26 PM
Anybody ever try to regenerate the charcoal in the canister?

Inukshuk
07-18-2012, 12:38 AM
but neither eliminated the vapor smell when hot

Tru dat. I had gasoline vapor smell on Kingston Peak at 9,000 + but still no pressure in the tank.

Nay
07-18-2012, 02:05 PM
Tru dat. I had gasoline vapor smell on Kingston Peak at 9,000 + but still no pressure in the tank.

Yup. I sold my OEM replacement that I paid $260 for to recoup some cost. The GM cannister is larger and whatever advantage I can ascribe to it is purely size and cost, and now availability as the OEM is discontinued.

I do think that using premium fuel keeps smell down a bit, and that may be due to somewhat lower ethanol levels (purely speculation that this is even true).

Long term I hope to put in a GM flex fuel crate system. That stuff is designed for this ridiculous mess.

Fishy
07-18-2012, 10:09 PM
Mine seems to only happen at altitude. Does that make sense or am I missing it all the other times? I can actually hear the gas cap venting when I'm up high, and I can smell it bad.

Rock Dog
07-20-2012, 12:40 PM
Yup. I sold my OEM replacement that I paid $260 for to recoup some cost. The GM cannister is larger and whatever advantage I can ascribe to it is purely size and cost, and now availability as the OEM is discontinued.

I do think that using premium fuel keeps smell down a bit, and that may be due to somewhat lower ethanol levels (purely speculation that this is even true).

Long term I hope to put in a GM flex fuel crate system. That stuff is designed for this ridiculous mess.

I run Premuim because of the SC, and do not get the smell you describe... so you may be onto something...

And the OEM ones are still available from Autozone as "Duralast/Vapor Canister Part Number: VC4054".. has the same numbers and markings that the OEM ones from Mr. Yota did....

subzali
07-20-2012, 01:06 PM
I run Premuim because of the SC, and do not get the smell you describe... so you may be onto something...

And the OEM ones are still available from Autozone as "Duralast/Vapor Canister Part Number: VC4054".. has the same numbers and markings that the OEM ones from Mr. Yota did....

For the same $260...