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Gerdo
11-03-2010, 08:22 PM
What is the best Jerry can that can be bought these days? I would like to get the NATO can with the metal locking lid but, unless someone knows different, they can't be bought any more. There are the heavy plastic Scepter military gas can but civilians can't buy them.

Any thoughts?

Corbet
11-03-2010, 09:08 PM
Scepters can be found. Ebay or out of Canada.

They are worth it IMO. I got a few off Ebay and other places;)

Woodsman
11-03-2010, 10:04 PM
This is where I bought my plastic Scepters a couple of years ago. Not sure if they are still shipping them to the US or not.

https://dstactical.com/index.php?cPath=16_54

EDIT: I just clicked on one of them and there is now a note that says they cannot be shipped out of Canada. Your fine govt regs at work.

I bought blue 20L Scepter water cans at Bass Pro Shop for less than $20 a couple of years ago too.

Try these guys if you can live with the metal cans. They also have the 10 liter cans.

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=1718

Air Randy
11-03-2010, 10:58 PM
You can get the red metal Blitz cans at 4wd parts for $40

rover67
11-03-2010, 11:57 PM
http://www.pinzgauer.com/showdetails.php?cat=surplus&partno=SAV1100U

rover67
11-04-2010, 12:12 AM
What is the best Jerry can that can be bought these days? I would like to get the NATO can with the metal locking lid but, unless someone knows different, they can't be bought any more. There are the heavy plastic Scepter military gas can but civilians can't buy them.

Any thoughts?

if you want to get 4 of the new 20 liter cans from this place:

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=1718

I'll pay you for 2 of them. I got some used ones from swiss army vehicles and they are nice, but they are used (gas, diesel). Now that I saw how nice they are (got here today) I want to ditch my plastic water jug and use a few of these for water so they need to be brand new.

What do you think?

jacdaw
11-04-2010, 01:26 AM
here's a few places that still sell them:

http://store.colemans.com/cart/gerry-can-nato-p-908.html

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/GJC20.cfm

http://www.expedition-imports.com/ E-I gets them all the time in big ship containers from eastern Europe. Not on the website, but call. I got my last 2 cans from them in April.

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1718

jacdaw
11-04-2010, 01:30 AM
BTW, good spouts are very hard to find. I prefer the Super Siphon about half way down this page (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/). It will empty a 20l can in less than 2 minutes and is super easy to use. No spilling whatsoever!
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/DSC05383.jpg

1loudLX
11-04-2010, 03:16 AM
Does anyone have ideas on how to secure 2-6 20L scepters to a roof rack? I've only got the african outback dual mount, and have been brainstorming on how to get all 6 up there. Each and every solution = $$$!

MDH33
11-04-2010, 07:38 AM
Does anyone have ideas on how to secure 2-6 20L scepters to a roof rack? I've only got the african outback dual mount, and have been brainstorming on how to get all 6 up there. Each and every solution = $$$!

No way I would want drive/wheel with that much weight on the roof. :hill:

Uncle Ben
11-04-2010, 07:41 AM
No way I would want drive/wheel with that much weight on the roof. :hill:

Tru dat!

nakman
11-04-2010, 04:42 PM
That's because you guys don't have 100's.. :D

wesintl
11-04-2010, 05:40 PM
cause you need 100 gal of fuel :hill:

Mendocino
11-04-2010, 06:44 PM
if you want to get 4 of the new 20 liter cans from this place:

http://www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=1718

I'll pay you for 2 of them. I got some used ones from swiss army vehicles and they are nice, but they are used (gas, diesel). Now that I saw how nice they are (got here today) I want to ditch my plastic water jug and use a few of these for water so they need to be brand new.

What do you think?

I got two of these this week and overall was not impressed. They said there was some surface rust, but one of the ones i received needs to be repainted. I am not happy.

wesintl
11-04-2010, 06:55 PM
the link is for the "new" ones not surplus.. Did you get a surplus or new Jeff?

rover67
11-04-2010, 07:00 PM
I got two of these this week and overall was not impressed. They said there was some surface rust, but one of the ones i received needs to be repainted. I am not happy.

Did you get the ones that were supposed to be new, or the used ones from Swiss Army Vehicles? Mine from Swiss Army Vehicles came in yesterday and they look pretty good I thought for $28 each. One even had a little gas in it. I poured it into the gas can for the mower.

Convert
11-04-2010, 07:23 PM
I picked up 2 at the Arvada army surplus 1 was new for 49.95 and 1 was used it was marked the same price but I got 20% off. They were the only ones but the manager said he had more used ones at the warehouse. The used one is in very nice shape no dents or rust.

Mendocino
11-04-2010, 07:25 PM
the link is for the "new" ones not surplus.. Did you get a surplus or new Jeff?

I got the used that had "light surface rust" as i remember:confused:; anyway, i posted a pic of what I received.

Functionally they will be great.

Corbet
11-04-2010, 07:33 PM
am I the only one who prefers the scepters?

coax
11-04-2010, 07:52 PM
am I the only one who prefers the scepters?

Nope :thumb: They are just hard to track down. Though I think my final cost for the 2 I ordered was only in the 55 each range. (after shipping, and getting new viton gaskets to replace the rubber ones. Which by the way I have if someone with a diesel could use)

Gerdo
11-04-2010, 08:20 PM
I picked up 2 at the Arvada army surplus 1 was new for 49.95 and 1 was used it was marked the same price but I got 20% off. They were the only ones but the manager said he had more used ones at the warehouse. The used one is in very nice shape no dents or rust.

They are the NATO steel ones?
I should give them a call to see if they got some more from the warehouse.
Do they have spouts?

I assume that the NATO cans, with a good seal, could be mounted/transported on it's side without leaking. Right?

Gerdo
11-04-2010, 09:51 PM
I did find some Scepter on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Scepter-Military-Fuel-Can-MFC-set-2-used-VITON-GASKET-/280565586591?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4153031a9f#ht_500wt_1154

Convert
11-04-2010, 10:07 PM
They are the NATO steel ones?
I should give them a call to see if they got some more from the warehouse.
Do they have spouts?

I assume that the NATO cans, with a good seal, could be mounted/transported on it's side without leaking. Right?

Yes Nato steel cans and a cheap spout. I don't know about mounting on there side but I hope so.

Corbet
11-04-2010, 10:11 PM
I did find some Scepter on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Scepter-Military-Fuel-Can-MFC-set-2-used-VITON-GASKET-/280565586591?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4153031a9f#ht_500wt_1154

I got some from that ebay vendor. They are used but in perfectly good usable condition. I would not hesitate to get more and probably will.

Nope :thumb: They are just hard to track down. Though I think my final cost for the 2 I ordered was only in the 55 each range. (after shipping, and getting new viton gaskets to replace the rubber ones. Which by the way I have if someone with a diesel could use)

$55 to your door is a OK price even used. If they are new that is a steal in todays market. My new ones cost me much more. Used a little less.



I should also say storing a Scepter on its side is a non issue. ;)

Gerdo
11-04-2010, 10:23 PM
I guess the next big question is.. Steel or plastic?

rover67
11-04-2010, 10:47 PM
I don't know, But I really dig the steel NATO style ones. They seem to seal really well. BUT.... I haven't used a scepter. So, my opinion may not count for much.

check them both out in person then decide

1loudLX
11-05-2010, 01:17 AM
That's because you guys don't have 100's.. :D

People will drive around with a RTT, high lift, two jerry cans, awning and some fire wood on their rack....but putting 6 cans up top, that will subsequently get lighter as the trip goes on, is a bad thing? :confuse2:

Woodsman
11-05-2010, 08:47 AM
As a group, you may also keep an eye on websites that sell government surplus on auction. This is where most of these sellers are getting their stock which they resell for huuuuuge profits. I've seen lots of like 100 or more Scepter jerry cans sell for a couple of dollars each as well as lots of Pellican or Hardigg hard cases sell for just a few dollars each. If you browse some of the stuff on the link below you will sometimes notices products like the hard cases that are brand new, in the box, but have a little surface rust on the metal handles or something. The trick is that you have to pick the stuff up at the military base and need something to haul it with.

Here's an example. http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/endecaSearch?cmd=keyword&N=0&Ntk=P_Category&Ntt=7550&category1_munged=7550

MDH33
11-05-2010, 09:03 AM
People will drive around with a RTT, high lift, two jerry cans, awning and some fire wood on their rack....but putting 6 cans up top, that will subsequently get lighter as the trip goes on, is a bad thing? :confuse2:

The RTT on my 60 weighs less than 100Lbs and I feel it. No way I would put any other heavy gear up there with it while wheeling.

I sometimes wonder if the rigs I see with the hilifts, shovels, awnings, tents, cans, all that up on the roof ever even get onto dirt roads. :p:

6 cans of fuel and H2O will weigh close to 250Lbs, plus the rack, etc.

But what do I know. Give it a try. :thumb:

1loudLX
11-05-2010, 06:55 PM
The RTT on my 60 weighs less than 100Lbs and I feel it. No way I would put any other heavy gear up there with it while wheeling.

I sometimes wonder if the rigs I see with the hilifts, shovels, awnings, tents, cans, all that up on the roof ever even get onto dirt roads. :p:

6 cans of fuel and H2O will weigh close to 250Lbs, plus the rack, etc.

But what do I know. Give it a try. :thumb:

Rock crawling is one thing, definitely dont want all that weight. Just out exploring, fire roads and such I dont see the problem.

rover67
11-05-2010, 09:07 PM
Rock crawling is one thing, definitely dont want all that weight. Just out exploring, fire roads and such I dont see the problem.

that looks fun :)

jacdaw
11-06-2010, 05:33 AM
A friend spotted these (http://www.rotopax.com/)at SEMA this past week. Mount is super simple and elegant.
http://www.rotopax.com/fpss/slideshows/homepageslideshow/images/jeeps.jpg
http://www.rotopax.com/fpss/slideshows/homepageslideshow/images/storage.jpg
http://www.rotopax.com/fpss/slideshows/homepageslideshow/images/sheriff.jpg