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PhatFJ
01-23-2011, 07:11 PM
:drumsticks: Well after many months working on the 1970 FJ40 5.7L TBI conversion and many other things including but not limited to, pulling the tub, cleaning up the frame :weld:, moving motor and tc mounts :weld:, rebuilding the front axle, installing Saganaw PS and new TR/DL, I got it running tonight :clap: Have to work on the idle circuit as it won't stay running but what a milestone. I had a goal to get it running by the end of January and I made it just under the wire. Thanks for all the help and advise, I will keep you updated on the progress as I need to get this done well in advance of Moab.. :thumb::thumb:

Uncle Ben
01-23-2011, 07:22 PM
:drumsticks: Well after many months working on the 1970 FJ40 5.7L TBI conversion and many other things including but not limited to, pulling the tub, cleaning up the frame :weld:, moving motor and tc mounts :weld:, rebuilding the front axle, installing Saganaw PS and new TR/DR, I got it running tonight :clap: Have to work on the idle circuit as it won't stay running but what a milestone. I had a goal to get it running by the end of January and I made it just under the wire. Thanks for all the help and advise, I will keep you updated on the progress as I need to get this done well in advance of Moab.. :thumb::thumb:

Nothing more exciting than hearing that first grumble to life! Congratulations....thats very exciting!

RicardoJM
01-23-2011, 07:25 PM
Most excellent Brian:D

Romer
01-23-2011, 09:47 PM
5.7L TBI Sweet

Have any pictutes?

RockRunner
01-23-2011, 11:40 PM
Can't wait to see it, hopefully next meeting.

PhatFJ
01-31-2011, 09:27 PM
So, here are some pic's. I will try and get some more up tomorrow, we'll see.


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8889.jpg?t=1296530528

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8907.jpg?t=1296530279

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8903.jpg?t=1296530379
fuel pump, filters, pressure gauge and tank selector.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8901.jpg?t=1296530464
Oil cooler and my own design 9.5ti winch mount.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8906.jpg?t=1296530672

PhatFJ
01-31-2011, 09:35 PM
4X4 labs power steering frame plate kit.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8885.jpg?t=1296530910

Pass side frame reinforcement.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8902.jpg?t=1296530984

Firewall bulkhead for ECU wiring into the pocket.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8890.jpg?t=1296531093

Exhaust -Y- pipe fab.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8894.jpg?t=1296531199

Block Hugger headers
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8899.jpg?t=1296531288

Hulk
01-31-2011, 10:57 PM
Looks good. Your steering box install looks really clean.

PhatFJ
02-01-2011, 09:21 AM
Thanks Matt, the 4x4 Lab's frame kit is really nice. My welds are farrrrr from perfect but they are getting better all the time. The Miller 211 with autoset has really helped.

Here is a list of things I have done.

1- pulled tub to clean frame, relocate motor and t-case mounts.
2- rebuilt front axles, upgrade to 60 knuckles and disk's, installed Longfields w/ upgraded inner hub gear so I can use IFS hubs (shorter and less expensive).
3- installed power breaks including lines from 60 series.
4- new tie rod 1.25"dom with 80 series tre's, drag link 1.25"dom with heim and custom tie rod clamp.
5- Saganaw PS with 4x4labs frame plate kit. With new smaller steering wheel.
6- install 1993 GMC 5.7L tbi with new AA mounts and custom exhaust. mated to SM465 4spd and 3spd transfer case. AA shift plate adaptor.
7- install new fuel filters, pump for tbi and lines.
8- install new seats Corbeau front buckets with 3 point harness and rear
bench.

Things to do list before Moab

1- install new gauges oil-p and temp, (would like to get a tach).
2- finish wiring including stock lighting and signaling.
3- fresh tuneup on the 5.7L. looking at getting a new chip for tbi.
4- finish rear breaks either rebuild drum's or convert to disk (time permitting).
5- install CB, HAM and stereo.
6- finish heater install front and rear.
7- fit and finish transmission hump.
8- fab spare tire carrier. (get 33x12.5x15 tire for spare).
9- install speedo and parking break cables.
10- get rear drive shaft lengthened.
11- finish ARB pump install for front and rear lockers.
12- finish hard door rebuild time permitting.
13- install slider, passenger side.
14- drive and work out all bugs before Moab.

I will try and have it on the road by the end of February maybe bring it to the March meeting,:eek: , we'll see, keeping my fingers crossed. ;)

farnhamstj
02-01-2011, 09:28 AM
Good work. Keep it up

RedCreeper
02-01-2011, 09:59 AM
nice work. i will have to keep up with this thread. I have the same TBI set up in my project.

PhatFJ
02-01-2011, 03:34 PM
Here are some more pic's. I just finished fabbing the passengers seat bracket and installing the seat, just have to remove now, clean and paint it. The rear bench seat turned out perfect, it is mounted to the top of a locking storage box 14ga. (heavy) :eek:. when you open the box the bench seat can then tumble forward and out of the way :thumb:. Anyhow, here are the pic's...

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8915.jpg?t=1296595288

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8921.jpg?t=1296595334

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8920.jpg?t=1296595451

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8923.jpg?t=1296595451

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8924.jpg?t=1296595451

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8925.jpg?t=1296595451

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8926.jpg?t=1296595451
Drag Link with Heim Joint 1.25" DOM
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8933.jpg?t=1296595451

RicardoJM
02-01-2011, 03:37 PM
Nice, do you have pics of the passenger seat and bracket?

PhatFJ
02-01-2011, 03:47 PM
That is this one..

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8915.jpg?t=1296596741

Here is another:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8940.jpg?t=1296596741

FJBRADY
02-01-2011, 05:51 PM
Very nice, can't wait to see you drive on the trail.

Air Randy
02-01-2011, 06:25 PM
Now isn't this a lot more fun than just driving around in a FJC? :D

Are you going to flip your springs front and/or rear to get a little more wheelbase? If so, do that before you pay to get your driveshaft lengthened.

PhatFJ
02-01-2011, 07:23 PM
Now isn't this a lot more fun than just driving around in a FJC? :D

Are you going to flip your springs front and/or rear to get a little more wheelbase? If so, do that before you pay to get your driveshaft lengthened.

You know, that is not the main reason for moving away from the FJC but it is certainly one of them. I had modified the FJC as far as I could and still keep the resale value somewhat reasonable. I really like doing this kind of work and knowing that I can basically rebuild the entire vehicle is a big plus. I forgot to add to my list of things to do, building a set of Bows for my OCD soft top.. This would be nice to get done for Moab. I will have to find some hardtop side panels which I can cannibalize to get the frame around the door... I digress sorry about that my mind does wander :blah:. I don't know about stretching the wheelbase, I was thinking I would just keep it this way and wheel it for a while.. :rolleyes: I did get some High Steer arms intending on doing an SOA at some point, I will probably just wait and do both of them at the same time.. Oh, then I will want to just go ahead and put 60 axles on it to widen the footprint at the same time.. Wait, then I can put larger meats on it and maybe an Atlas, humm, 4-link and coils, humm, :rolleyes: Unfortunately funds will not allow any of these for a while, I will just keep it here for a while.. Thanks again for all your input and helping to point me in the right direction!!!

Air Randy
02-01-2011, 10:42 PM
Since you have to lengthen your ds anyways, if you flip the springs now it costs you nothing. Pretty easy mod.

PhatFJ
02-01-2011, 10:47 PM
Nice, do you have pics of the passenger seat and bracket?

Sorry about that Ricardo, I just noticed you said seat AND bracket, here is another one from the drivers side.. I do not have any of the bottom but I can take more when I remove it to do the final finish and paint...

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8919.jpg?t=1296621793

PhatFJ
02-01-2011, 10:56 PM
Since you have to lengthen your ds anyways, if you flip the springs now it costs you nothing. Pretty easy mod.

Randy, having not put any time on a 40 off road yet I really do not know the characteristics of the drive. I do know from reading on MUD that a lot of people do stretch there 40's. What are the pro's and con's of stretching the wheelbase in your opinion? What did you get with a spring flip, about 7" ?

Thanks for the input!!
Brian

Air Randy
02-02-2011, 12:58 AM
I got a full set of alcan springs that were built specifically for SOA use. They are flat at rest and very flexy. You don't get a harsh ride and you get quite a bit of articulation. I also decided to do a shackle reversal at the same time I did the SOA and I flipped my springs so I got 1.5" of wheelbase in the front and the same in the rear. Now, 3" of wheelbase doesn't sound like much it really does seem to make the rig handle better both on road and offroad, a slightly better ride, etc. I think the consensus is longer wheelbase helps you climb obstacles better but increases your turn radius in the tight spots. I have never had an instance (so far anyways) where I was saying "dang, I wish I had a shorter turn radius" but I really noticed the improvement in climbing ability and stability with the longer wheelbase. You are welcome to drive the Mule any time if you want to compare how it handles and rides with this setup. It is amazingly stable on the pavement at 70 mph and actually has a very decent ride. Before, when it had the 4" lift SUA suspension, you would p** blood after a ride offroad.

PhatFJ
02-02-2011, 08:53 AM
Thanks, not having driven this rig at all, I really don't have any idea what to expect. It does have shackle reversal on it now and a Rancho lift, I think it is 2 or 2.5". I will measure the wheelbase today just to verify what it is at (should be stock).. The Rancho springs seem pretty stout so they might beat me up a bit, not knowing is really why I think I will just drive it a bit and then make decisions on which direction to go.. Thanks for the offer on the Mule!! I would like to drive it someday, I would also like you to take my rig for a spin and let me know what you think.. As always, I really appreciate your advise and input!! See you at the meeting tonight??

Brian

Air Randy
02-02-2011, 04:24 PM
Can't make it tonight, Im in Phoenix on business.

Air Randy
02-02-2011, 05:43 PM
Where did you get the HD box you mounted the rear seat on?

PhatFJ
02-02-2011, 05:50 PM
It came with the 40 when I bought it, I think it was made specifically for the 40 though, fantastic fit! Talk about heavy, between that and the 20gal extra fuel tank it's got some weight in back. I will have to check the F/R balance after I get everything finished and loaded up.. Have a good trip!!

PhatFJ
02-03-2011, 04:09 PM
Here is the latest.. Had to fab my own spare tire carrier. It is made out of primarily 1"x2" 14ga. with the hinges made out of 1.25"x.240 DOM and bronze inserts with 1/2" bolt.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8969.jpg?t=1296770852

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8967.jpg?t=1296770852

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_8965.jpg?t=1296770852

PhatFJ
02-15-2011, 08:34 PM
Ok, so I thought I would update this. With Marco's help this weekend, I got the tubing bent for the soft top bows :thumb: Thanks Marco!!! They turned out really nice, this is the OEM design and for my first attempt, I think they will work GREAT...

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/DPP_0008.jpg?t=1297823252

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/DPP_0007.jpg?t=1297823252

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/DPP_0003.jpg?t=1297823252

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/DPP_0002.jpg?t=1297823252

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/IMG_9030.jpg?t=1297823575

PhatFJ
02-15-2011, 08:41 PM
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/IMG_9015.jpg?t=1297823735

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/IMG_9023.jpg?t=1297823735

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/IMG_9027.jpg?t=1297823735

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/IMG_9026.jpg?t=1297823735

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/Soft%20top/IMG_9024.jpg?t=1297823735

Hulk
02-15-2011, 11:14 PM
Wow, you made your own OEM soft top bows??!! I am impressed! :bowdown:

rover67
02-16-2011, 10:01 AM
Man, it turned awesome!! Looking good!

RedCreeper
02-16-2011, 10:15 AM
nice job!!

RicardoJM
02-16-2011, 10:50 AM
Wow, you made your own OEM soft top bows??!! I am impressed! :bowdown:

Man, it turned awesome!! Looking good!

I stopped by there yesterday and Brian has done some real good work with the soft top and bows. The rest of his rig is also coming along very nicely. :thumb:

PhatFJ
02-16-2011, 11:56 AM
Thanks guys!! I just took everything down, did some final welding, cleanup and now am getting ready to prime and paint. Now I have to jump back into the electrical and break work.. Moab will be here before I know it :eek: Still would like to have it on the road by our next meeting.. Keeping my fingers crossed..

corsair23
02-16-2011, 01:43 PM
Enough about 40...Let's hear about the RC plane in the background :D

Air Randy
02-16-2011, 08:34 PM
Enough about 40...Let's hear about the RC plane in the background :D

Looks like an Ugly Stik to me.

PhatFJ
02-17-2011, 08:13 AM
Probably should start a new thread "Other Hobbies".. Yes Randy you nailed it, it is an Ugly Stick with a Saito 72-GK for power. The other one hanging up ( I will let you find it) is a 1/4 scale Laser with a ZDZ 80cc IMAC swinging a 26" prop. I have been in radio control since the mid 80's, was an instructor for Jefco Aeromod'lers out at Chatfield, went to Madera, CA in 1994 and raced 1/4 scale AT-6 air races. Was a factory field rep for a German helicopter "Vario" and have a stable of over 15 RC helicopters ranging from small electrics to 1.8m rotor dia. gas. My favorite is a Bell 47-g2 scale. I have not flown in a few years, I tend to go in and out of the RC hobby. Now I am building an FJ-40 :thumb:

PhatFJ
03-14-2011, 03:28 PM
Well we took the 40 around the block this weekend. Here are a few shots with the OCD canvas top on.. I decided to replace the ECM with a EBL/ECM, this is a unit that, rather than replace chips with new burns and configurations, this unit has a built in flash and all you do is make changes to the program (ECM configuration) and upload it to the ECM. It also has a what's up display for real-time monitoring of the unit.. http://www.dynamicefi.com/EBL_Flash.php Should have it in by the this week
:thumb:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_9045.jpg?t=1300134143
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_9044.jpg?t=1300134143
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_9040.jpg?t=1300134287
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/briansci/FJ40%20build/IMG_9038.jpg?t=1300134376

FJBRADY
03-14-2011, 03:55 PM
Nice, looks Moab ready if you ask me!

rover67
03-14-2011, 04:01 PM
the top turned out really nice man..

Air Randy
03-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Looks like it's ready for one of my custom rattle can paint jobs :thumb:

PhatFJ
03-14-2011, 04:30 PM
Nice, looks Moab ready if you ask me!

It's almost there, after I get the new ECM/EBL system isntalled, I will get it out and put some miles on her, need to find out what still needs some attention, if you know what I mean...

the top turned out really nice man..
Thanks to you and your help!! Thanks again Marco!!! :bowdown: By the way, I did need to stretch the B-pillar to rear upright span about 1.25" to get it just right..

Looks like it's ready for one of my custom rattle can paint jobs :thumb:
Yep, rattle can is all it's going to get right now. Maybe I will get some paint on it by the end of the year.. We'll see... Mechanically I think she is perdy sound...