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nuclearlemon
04-18-2011, 10:06 PM
so i have two options for moab. stay with my cute little 255s and stock gearing, or put on my new 315s and throw the 4.88s in this weekend.

advantage, cool factor, more lift
disadvantages, if anything doesn't work out well with the regear, no moab, or worse broke in moab. i will only have two weeks of daily driving to break in the new gears and make sure all is well, no chance of getting off road to flex and check for clearance for tires and that lockers are working.

TIMZTOY
04-18-2011, 10:09 PM
Regear ! if it works you'll be happier. If it dosent , at least you tried. and can always ride along.

Uncle Ben
04-18-2011, 10:11 PM
Tough to give advice on this one. I would guess the decision would fall on time and money. Remember, whats all involved with the front as it will take time and always costs more than expected. Too bad you don't have spare chunks you can set up then just swap!

nuclearlemon
04-18-2011, 10:24 PM
my hope was to have spare chunks, but everyone seems to think they're gold. :(

i've got a front end kit already, picked that up in anticipation of the gearing, so not too worried there. just don't like not having time to really get to know the gearing and flex of the new setup. but really want it. ;)

Romer
04-18-2011, 10:37 PM
You could run 315's with stock gearing and enjoy the flex. The gears make it nicer, but if the 315's are the big thing you want to be on, you can still do that.

Another option is to take your diffs after you do the swap up to Robbie and hire him to check out your swap, shims and alignment before installing them in your axle. The few $$ that would cost would give you peace of mind. I would be concerned about doing the gear swap and the part time kit install. I toyed with doing the part time kit and have read the threads and really didnt see much benifit. It reduces wear on your front end components, doesnt help with gas mileage. It does complicate your install and provides something else to go wrong with two weeks left. Just a few thoughts to consider.

gahi
04-18-2011, 11:02 PM
I've been running around for 4-5 months now with 315's and stock gearing, and I have the new gears waiting to go in. But I havn't really encountered that much where I thought "I wish those gears were in". I'll get to them eventually...

Dr. Schlegs
04-18-2011, 11:12 PM
I say wait. I'm having to hold off on regearing and adding the ARB's. Want to do it right and don't want it to break in Moab.

Beater
04-19-2011, 08:11 AM
315's and stock is fine ige... seriously. it's not a race truck on the road and there is more than enough low rpm grunt to get it over anything you should or would be doing.. part time kit is just a blip on the radar. not worth much in functionality.

remember - the russians beat us to space by a mentality that used pencils and paper while we worried about developing pens to write on carbon paper upside down in zero g. sometimes just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

j

FJBRADY
04-19-2011, 08:41 AM
Run the bigger meats. Regear if you have the time. If you break in Moab we will get you all fixed up. :ranger:

Caribou Sandstorm
04-19-2011, 09:10 AM
Gas is going to five bucks....toss your 315s on for Moab and then run your pizza cutters the rest of the time..skip the rear gearing..save your money..

Corbet
04-19-2011, 09:17 AM
Throw on the 315's. You'll be fine with stock gears. Do it after Moab.

leiniesred
04-19-2011, 09:46 AM
Run the big tires with the tall gears for the week. Suffer on the highway for what? 14 hours? Enjoy the rest of the week on the trail and in camp with the bigger tires.

Re-gear when you get back. Sell the 255s to fund the spare chunks and build them at your leisure. Then swap them in over a weekend. 1 day for each axle should give you time to do the front axle seals and wheel bearings and stuff while you are in there.

timmbuck2
04-19-2011, 11:16 AM
Run the big tires with the tall gears for the week. Suffer on the highway for what? 14 hours? Enjoy the rest of the week on the trail and in camp with the bigger tires.

Re-gear when you get back. Sell the 255s to fund the spare chunks and build them at your leisure. Then swap them in over a weekend. 1 day for each axle should give you time to do the front axle seals and wheel bearings and stuff while you are in there.

x2 x3 etc...I ran 35's with stock gears in Moab last year and had no issues...well unless you call it an issue when I was towing a camper up Vail Pass and getting passed by RV's and tanker trucks...

I also have a chance to re-gear before Moab this year and just am not comfortable with not having enough time to break everything in and work out all the bugs...

corsair23
04-19-2011, 01:53 PM
x2 x3 etc...I ran 35's with stock gears in Moab last year and had no issues...well unless you call it an issue when I was towing a camper up Vail Pass and getting passed by RV's and tanker trucks...

I was getting passed with 285s running 4.88 gears...The only thing that will allow YOU to pass is a supercharger, turbo, or swapping in a V8 :hill:


Ige, my :twocents: fwiw is run what you have or at the most, throw on the 315s, and do the gears after. IMO, when you do the gears it only makes sense to replace the seals and do the axle service etc. since everything is apart. BTW, IMO the 4.88s with 285s ROCK :D - other than things get "buzzy" on the highway over 70mph with the RPMs, the 80 actually feels sortof powerful. Way more so than the :Princess:'s stock 80

Any concerns with tire rub running the 315s and the suspension you have? I was contemplating finally putting on the 315s this year before CM but I'm still on an OME (heavy) lift and I don't really want to be rubbing the tires on the flares and the wheel wells etc. all week long. Plus I still haven't found a 315 spare :o

bigbluefj
04-19-2011, 08:01 PM
I'm running a 2.5 lift with 315's and stock gearing right now and it rub's very little in the rear wheel well at full stuff..

Inukshuk
04-19-2011, 09:47 PM
Drive the pig. Its cooler anyway.

Nay
04-20-2011, 12:25 AM
315's, stock gears, and drop your rear bumpstops 1.5" if they are still stock.

nakman
04-20-2011, 09:35 AM
My vote is keep the 255's on there, focus on other maintenance, mods, and getting your camping stuff together. Then take your time with the gear install, do the break-ins, then go rock Jenny Creek in June with those 315's.

my :twocents: Everyone comments on going uphill with big tires and stock gears.. my beef is the downhill sections. You'll be in low range, 1st gear for the tough stuff.. not much different from anything else. But then you click it up to 2nd and you'll be warp speed headed to the truck in front of you. You'll either need to ride your brakes all the way down the hill, or constantly toggle between 1st and 2nd to maintain the gap. 2nd gear is just a "little too fast" to just steer and not touch the pedals, but when you finally get the 4.88's and 315's it pulls that range back under control nicely, and makes for descending hills all that much more enjoyable, particularly when you're in a large group.

Red_Chili
04-20-2011, 10:22 AM
Yeah, but Ige doesn't do slow. Something I discovered on Cliffhanger on the angled ledge climb... :lmao:
And again on Chinaman's... :lmao: :lmao:

Everything Ige does is with GUSTO. :thumb:

nuclearlemon
04-20-2011, 12:42 PM
hmmm, not sure where romer got the part time thing from. i am in almost done with part time kit, but the tcase isn't even a consideration right now.

i think i am going to leave stock gearing until after moab, so it's just down to tire size. the 315's really sapp the power. my cruiser feels like a dog compared to the 255s. they are bigger, heavier and wider, so there's a lot more rolling resistance.

with the 255s, passing is possible, and i think i've been spoiled with them...i may be really disappointed on the trip out there with the 315s;), but i'll live. i really like they way they look, i love seeing the fenders more filled in, but i do flex pretty dang good...i've gotten the 255s pretty stuffed up. i can't drop the bump stops as there aren't any...with lots of drilling and tapping, i might be able to get the junkyard ones that i picked up on (ih8rust)....maybe i'll do that this weekend since i'm not regearing...if i flex the rear axle all the way, i think i can get a drill up there to drill out the old bolts that snapped off.