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cbmontgo
05-09-2011, 01:28 PM
I am about to go to Moab with a small group (yeah, I know that I just missed CM2011). We are going to be in a stock Suburban and the plan is to do some camping, light trail riding, and a little bit of mountain biking. Which is a better trail for camping...Beef Basin or Lockhart? Preferably a little bit of shade, nice views, and maybe somewhere close to the Anasazi art work as well.

We are going to try for a last minute backcountry permit for White Rim, but that looks iffy given that it is peak season.

Any other nice stock trails that would be good for this sort of thing?

Jacket
05-09-2011, 02:14 PM
You may have a tougher time with a Suburban on Lockhart - there are a few ledges and narrow spots that could challenge a long, stock truck. But the views are spectacular and the riding would be fun. Not much cover at all.

Beef Basin has some scrubby trees that provide some cover, and the roads shouldn't give you any trouble if the weather is good. Lots of ruins to visit. The two areas are very different, so it's tough to compare them.

How many days will you be out there? I'd suggest that you do both. :)

pskhaat
05-09-2011, 02:38 PM
If into Beef Basin, you heading North into the Park or just in & out?

cbmontgo
05-09-2011, 02:59 PM
It is a very fast trip; we only have about 2 days. This is a scouting trip more or less for future family trips.

We are planning to enter both/either trail from Hwy 211. I don't think our rig will be able to get all the way into Canyonlands via Beef Basin or through the north end of Lockhart. We are just going to go where we can safely go and enjoy some beers and scenery.

pskhaat
05-09-2011, 03:08 PM
You may have problems in the Park. Lockhart is nice scenery, can just turn around when ready. Beef Basin is cool, just not as drastic as a touch further North...

cbmontgo
05-09-2011, 03:29 PM
If we hit Beef Basin, will we feel like we've "seen" the area or it is just a long dusty road?

I am open to any suggestions that have secluded camping and nice views (and accessible to a stocker).

pskhaat
05-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Opinions may vary but Beef Basin is a good desert road and remote area in which one can get lost (in a good way) but is generally the stretch of road in-between destinations. Personally, I think a nice camp in the valley here at (38.324435,-109.679334) is a more classic Utah feel.

cbmontgo
05-09-2011, 04:00 PM
Opinions may vary but Beef Basin is a good desert road and remote area in which one can get lost (in a good way) but is generally the stretch of road in-between destinations. Personally, I think a nice camp in the valley here at (38.324435,-109.679334) is a more classic Utah feel.

Thanks...is there any shelter around there (looks like some scrub or small trees in the aerial)? Appears to be in a "basin" off the main road? Might have to check that out.

SteveH
05-09-2011, 04:05 PM
>I am open to any suggestions that have secluded camping and nice views (and accessible to a stocker).

Gemini Bridges? My buddy and I took a stock 4 door Tahoe through there without much trouble, and even did some washes and side roads.

cbmontgo
05-09-2011, 04:22 PM
>I am open to any suggestions that have secluded camping and nice views (and accessible to a stocker).

Gemini Bridges? My buddy and I took a stock 4 door Tahoe through there without much trouble, and even did some washes and side roads.

Any good camping around that area?

pskhaat
05-09-2011, 04:25 PM
Yes, but be aware of the restrictions:

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ut/moab_fo/recreation_maps_in.Par.99473.File.dat/CampingRestrictions.pdf

Jacket
05-09-2011, 05:52 PM
If we hit Beef Basin, will we feel like we've "seen" the area or it is just a long dusty road?



I'd say no. Just driving through and staying for a night may seem "unimpressive." Getting out and exploring on foot, and finding some of the "hidden gems" would be far more interesting.

If Perry doesn't post up, you should PM him (bh4rnr). I believe he's been into BB a number times and has some good info.

cbmontgo
05-10-2011, 10:10 AM
I'd say no. Just driving through and staying for a night may seem "unimpressive." Getting out and exploring on foot, and finding some of the "hidden gems" would be far more interesting.

If Perry doesn't post up, you should PM him (bh4rnr). I believe he's been into BB a number times and has some good info.

I will PM him today. Thanks as always, guys.

Inukshuk
05-10-2011, 12:50 PM
I Have yet to drive a road in the area that was not great. I agree that the short stretch of Lockhart where it joins Chicken Corners might be too tough for a stock Suburban, but if you go in from that side its not too far to backtrack out. I have not run the whole thing in 10 years but as I recall, it was easy. I have run Chicken Corners 2x in the past 2 months and last Friday we had a stock Nissan armada with running boards trailing our group. No problem.

Most roads on the San Rafael Swell are suitable for any truck or SUV, and many cars.

cbmontgo
05-10-2011, 03:23 PM
What about La Sal Pass? Anyone ever camped up there? I wonder if it is still snowed in...

gahi
05-10-2011, 07:08 PM
What about La Sal Pass? Anyone ever camped up there? I wonder if it is still snowed in...

yup, still too much snow as of sunday.

Beachboy
05-11-2011, 08:07 AM
Try a little farther south and camp at the mouth of Arch Canyon (cross the stream and camp neear the rocks) - it would be a great bike ride (7 miles) to the end of the canyon and bike up to hotel rock. Then do any of the roads on Grand Mesa like McCloyd Canyon, Road Canyon, Etc. for some great hiking to ruins. Also drive the Snow Flats Road and then back to camp on Comb Ridge Road - ruins and art along the way but you need to know where to look for them.

Corbet
05-11-2011, 12:06 PM
The campsite Brian is describing at the mouth of Arch Canyon has a lot of shade. But don't drive the burb up the trail if you like its paint. The trees are very tight to the top. Here is my trip report from a few weeks ago. http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=15428 you could definitely bike it to the top but be prepared for sand and possible ATV traffic.

Caribou Sandstorm
05-11-2011, 01:14 PM
The place we camped in Beef Basin before CM09 had larger trees and shade. Robbie and Perry know that camp site, I think they have a name for it.

Also there is a great camp site close to the foot of the La Sals that had no snow on Thursday of last week.

It also has a pit toilet. It is well marked from the road but hidden and can accomodate 12+ vehicles, views are stunning if you take the short 50 yard hike back up behind the camp site.

Fisher Mesa camp ground. It is not on the map, but close to Bill Draw Camp ground.

If you stop at the visitors center in Moab and buy the Moab East Utah Trails topo map, purple cover, you can follow the kokopelli trail to Fisher Mesa trail head/Bull draw Camp ground..Once there physically, you can't miss the Fisher Mesa Camp site.

cbmontgo
05-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Excellent. I am going to check these out.

Caribou Sandstorm
05-11-2011, 01:48 PM
One thing I did not metion, I meant follow the Kokopelli trail while looking at the map, not driving the Kokopelli. Maybe that was obvious.

From Moab, Fisher Mesa camp site is not very far. You enter at Slickrock near Hells Revenge trail head and continue on that road past Porcupine and continue through Sand Flats area, then meander your way toward Bull Draw via the map..

Probably no more than 45 minutes to an hour from the visitors center in town.