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Trapper50cal
05-09-2011, 01:12 PM
So, I wanted a unified thread where folks who participated in the Kokopelli Double Overnighter could post up their pics.

Nathan from Alberta has put together a great little YouTube flick that I will link in here as well.

First let me say...What a BLAST! Although there were a couple snafus and hurdles (this being an inaugural offering and all), what an amazing way to get to Cruise Moab proper. There is something about having an adventure through the wilderness of the Southwest to arrive at an event....kind of like trappers having to trek great distances to make it to a rendezvous. Great people, great sites, great time...all led by perhaps the finest Cruiser mechanic on the face of this planet, Robbie Antonson, and gunned by Chris (Sandstorm) Great job guys!

Top of the world felt like exactly that. Rolling down into Moab via Sand Flats with half the trucks running on fumes felt as satisfying as it did relieving.

More stories to come, I'm sure.....but here are some pics to get this thing kicked off. I did not take enough shots to represent all of it.

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Obviously very incomplete collection, but I hope others will take the opportunity to post up as well! Once again, great time guys! And Thank You soooo much RS for doing the hard work to make this happen!

Nathan's great Youtube movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBhax2ZWMg

pskhaat
05-09-2011, 01:39 PM
Would you mind posting or PM'ing a GPS track? I'd like to see where y'all went.

DaveInDenver
05-09-2011, 02:09 PM
Would you mind posting or PM'ing a GPS track? I'd like to see where y'all went.
I'd like to see the route and description, too.

Trapper50cal
05-09-2011, 02:22 PM
Well, I didn't record it but I know someone did. We started just outside of Fruita, CO...camped first night at Fish Ford (correct? Guys?) went to Top of the World day two then back tracked to Onion Creek to camp for night two only to be denied...then headed to Dewey Bridge where we were able to fit all our trucks, then day three brought the last section, straddling the side of the La Sals and the opposite rim of the Top of the World lookout, down through onto Sand Flats, past Fins and Hell's and into town.

powderpig
05-09-2011, 02:27 PM
I do not have a gps track, but some info on it I can provide. It starts out of Mile 2 on the colorado side of I 70 at the Rabbit valley exit. It goes along the colorado (some times close and some time far away. It ends up over near Cisco, and we camped at Fish Ford the first night. After Cisco, we hit the paved road for a bit and connected with the trail again over near Dewey Bridge, and wondered around the dome plateau area a bit before crossing the bridge and colorado river an getting around the Top of the world area.
Then after staying on the Kokopelli trail some more we ended up over near Onion creek and then into Thompson Canyon then over into the La Sal National Forest till we came up and over a couple ridges and into a sand flats rec road that starts near Porcupine Ridge trail in Sand flats rec area.

Anyhow it is moslty famous for a Mountain Bike trail, it is in the north Moab Trail map that can be had at most local Colorado REI's. It is called the Kokopelli trail on the map.
Some one stated that there is a GPS track on line if you google Kokopelli and search a bit.

DaveInDenver
05-09-2011, 02:27 PM
So you guys camped 2 nights or 3? Was the pace good, slow or fast? I've only ridden Kokopelli on MTBs and we did it in 3 days, 2 nights camping. That was an aggressive ride but got the feeling that camping 2 nights was a slow pace in trucks. I have a GPS-generated track and detailed notes for the MTB route, but am compiling differences in bypasses for trucks. Rose Garden would be a place I'd like to have a driving alternate but would not think of bypassing on a bike. Too much fun!

Trapper50cal
05-09-2011, 02:35 PM
2 nights....Rose Garden Hill was last day (3rd) My armor earned it's keep that day....pace was okay, we slinky-ed out a couple times and took a couple wrong turns but nothing that absorbed a huge amount of time. After Top of the World, some of us went back down the way we came and some did a loop around back onto the main decent, the loop was fun, with a lot of medium tough obstacles, but we ended up holding things up a bit, I think. Ben (Black FJC) broke a CV on Rose as the 3rd or 4th truck down and we spot/snuck around him to the bottom and waited for him to get stuff limp-able but once again, not a particularly lengthy wait. It was a nice combo of terrains....high plains, riverbed, canyon views, small shelfs, high mountains...good stuff

Red_Chili
05-09-2011, 02:41 PM
It's one very long day on a dirt bike. A bit long for me really, we bailed at Rose Garden and rode out to 128, thence to Moab. Did the second half in the Chili that year. It definitely takes you through all kinds of ecosystems!

Good to talk to you guys on Top of the World while we were headed west on I70.

Caribou Sandstorm
05-10-2011, 03:43 PM
What a great group of folks we had for this run. It was a privilege to be a part of the group'

Here is Nate's web site. www.ct4wda.com

If you go to the home page and scroll down to Recent news, Nate's video is the second bubble link. Really, really well done.

If you look closely you will see and should take note of some world class spotting by our very own Dan Reinmuth.

Here are a few of my pics.

http://chrissandstormfj.smugmug.com/Other/Cruise-Moab-2011/i-msCF2vH/0/L/DSCF0600-M.jpg

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Oh, I almost forgot, this big Caribou was just wondering about off the trail and vansihed before any of the others in the group saw it!!! :thumb:
http://www.weforanimals.com/free-pictures/wild-animals/caribous/1/Caribou%20-%20Biggins,%20Dean%20-%20USFWS.JPG

Red_Chili
05-10-2011, 04:04 PM
Gee Chris, that caribou suit fits really well!

Rock Dog
05-10-2011, 04:51 PM
http://www.weforanimals.com/free-pictures/wild-animals/caribous/1/Caribou%20-%20Biggins,%20Dean%20-%20USFWS.JPG

I don't recall that mountain range in Utah... does not look like the Manti Lasals.... Maybe the "Sandstorm de Christos"..... :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Po Boy 80
05-11-2011, 06:26 AM
Thanks Chris and Robbie for the support on this manuver. A great experience!
I will post more on the weekend.

Caribou Sandstorm
05-11-2011, 09:24 AM
Thanks Chris and Robbie for the support on this manuver. A great experience!
I will post more on the weekend.

Wow, even deeper then I remembered...

Great wheeling with the Durango gang!

Would be fun to do a club double overnighter down that way and have you local folks lead...

Trapper50cal
05-11-2011, 09:53 AM
It wasn't as deep as it looks in the pic....that's just the North Shore/Pipeline style breaker he's pushing up. ;)

Caribou Sandstorm
05-11-2011, 10:04 AM
He was moving pretty well. That is a fun feature for sure.

I am going to have to toss a snorkel on here sooner then later..

Trapper50cal
05-11-2011, 10:56 AM
Here is a link to TabascoFish's album of the Koko Run, great stuff!

https://picasaweb.google.com/twowheeldrive/KokopelliTrail?feat=directlink

Jacket
05-11-2011, 11:13 AM
So does everyone have to cross the Dolores at that water level, or is there a bridge/shallower crossing spot?

powderpig
05-11-2011, 12:22 PM
No, after finding the right place, I did find water in my air cleaner. This is the first of two crossings and the other is typically 8-10" deeper and I was not interested in attempting that one going slow and finding the right way. So I made the choice to allow a few people the chance to experience a good almost safe way to have the chance to see how they did. Besides me, we had 3 others play in the water with Me spotting with a radio.
This crossing is typically lower in the fall and the other crossing is a breeze with lower water.
Hope that answers your question Matt.

Caribou Sandstorm
05-11-2011, 12:28 PM
The Delores River crossing is an added feature. A dirt road runs off to the left of the county road and then rejoins the county road a ways down. so you can go look at the river and even camp near it, where you cross, as we did. So you can play and then get back on the county road and continue on the Kokopelli.

I bet fall and dead of winter are the best time to cross it, I have in September and it was up to top of our tires at the deapest point, mostly just mid wheel.

BTW, My new Avatar is the bomb! Check out my rack!!

freeze
05-11-2011, 12:37 PM
That was an awesome trip! Thank you so much for the excellent times and great people. Here's the video hopefully the embed feature works:

sPBhax2ZWMg

Red_Chili
05-11-2011, 12:48 PM
Wow, amazing camera work. Nicely done! Great music too. Beautiful.



(fortunately it isn't the Rising Sun Land Cruiser Assoc... but Rising Sun 4x4 Club of Colorado... for the sake of us non-cruiserheads. Truly an insignificant nit however.)

Jacket
05-11-2011, 01:00 PM
That was an awesome trip! Thank you so much for the excellent times and great people. Here's the video hopefully the embed feature works:

sPBhax2ZWMg

Beautiful work Freeze. Thanks for posting that video up.

Trapper50cal
05-11-2011, 02:21 PM
It's not required, there's a bypass. (bridge)

DaveInDenver
05-11-2011, 03:55 PM
Sp freeze, you work for Steamworks, eh?

Trapper50cal
05-11-2011, 04:29 PM
Sp freeze, you work for Steamworks, eh?


Freeze is Nathan from CT4WD in Alberta.

I'm the one that works for Steamworks...their Graphic Designer

Caribou Sandstorm
05-11-2011, 07:05 PM
Freeze is Nathan from CT4WD in Alberta.

I'm the one that works for Steamworks...their Graphic Designer

And the keeper of the best beer on the trail....Steam Engine! Yummmmm..

Convert
05-11-2011, 08:22 PM
That was an awesome trip! Thank you so much for the excellent times and great people. Here's the video hopefully the embed feature works:

sPBhax2ZWMg

Great video Nathan :thumb::beer:

Po Boy 80
05-11-2011, 11:03 PM
More pics from the Koko. Rose Garden are the 2 with the rear shots.
Kudos to Nathan and Dave for the video taken. Tabascofish, those were some great pics that you and Steve put together too.

powderpig
05-12-2011, 10:29 AM
So the story goes, after We make a wrong turn on the plains between Fish Ford and the dome plateau area. Chris finds the right road he passed. We take off towards Cisco. When Chris tops the little hill he is going over We all suddenly hear he sees some animals, He states they are Caribou. Well I am not the only one that thinks Chris has something other than Wheaties for Breakfeast. I did have the idea of asking if they may of been Prong Horn Antelopes.
So sort of like coming in hot, Caribou's are now in the area of Cisco Utah, because Chris say's so.
Dan and Bill almost could not stay on the trail they were laughing so hard.

So now you know the rest of the story behind the Caribou.

pskhaat
05-12-2011, 10:52 AM
Cisco, UTAH (?) rather?

powderpig
05-12-2011, 11:41 AM
Yep, utah, corrected.

wesintl
05-12-2011, 11:42 AM
you mean cisco AK? ;)

DaveInDenver
05-12-2011, 12:17 PM
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo309/mendeztero/cisco.jpg http://www.takitaro.com/shop/brand/crisco/photo/shortening-all_vegetable-453-ss.jpg

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-utah/Cisco%20Post%20office-500.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01005/sign2_1005092i.jpg

Jacket
05-12-2011, 12:58 PM
Funny - when I think "Cisco" my mind drifts to this nasty stuff. When I was a teenager, Cisco and MD 20/20 were way too accessible as easy ways to catch a buzz....

http://www.bumwine.com/bumwine/cisco_flavors.jpg

pskhaat
05-12-2011, 01:05 PM
Who'd'a'thunk, but apparently fiber/DSL is available in Cisco according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco,_Utah

However, I also think of Johnny Cash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9w3kak-I1w&hd=1).

Trapper50cal
05-12-2011, 01:48 PM
Or the artist known for the fine diddy, "Thong Song"

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Caribou Sandstorm
05-12-2011, 05:39 PM
Long live the Caribou of Cisco!

:cheers:

Now back to the topic of Kokopelli pics.....

bvb
05-12-2011, 09:31 PM
Sorry it took so long but here it is! The track that we ran including a little back tracking for the camp site. What a great ride with a super great crew, Thanks!

Trapper50cal
05-12-2011, 10:10 PM
Sweet!

brentbba
05-18-2011, 12:34 PM
So, just out of curiosity for future reference - is this trail doable towing an offroad trailer?

Great write up and pics!

Caribou Sandstorm
05-18-2011, 03:20 PM
Some of it definitely yes, some of it definitely no...But you can by pass the no-trailer sections.. There is some fantastic camping along this route for trailers.

brentbba
05-18-2011, 03:25 PM
Some of it definitely yes, some of it definitely no...But you can by pass the no-trailer sections.. There is some fantastic camping along this route for trailers.

Thanks - I'll keep that in mind for future reference Chris.

Air Randy
05-18-2011, 05:37 PM
What was the total miles driven and how much gas would you have to tote in an FJ40 to do this run? Not all of us have those luxury wagons and roof racks :D

Caribou Sandstorm
05-18-2011, 06:42 PM
You probably only need 10 extra gallons. If in a group and you needed a couple more you probably would be good, if solo maybe 15 gallons just to be safe.

It is not really that remote..you have several options along the way to bail and head to Moab.

powderpig
05-18-2011, 08:25 PM
Well Randy you really do not have a 40, but a buggie. How much fuel do you carry on Meanie? I know I started with a full fuel main tank with only 30 highway mile on it and carried 15 in the Aux tank. I used all but the Aux tank traveling along. Most with 80's used there mains and had some poured in at one time or the other. So most burned close to 22 gallons or more on the bigger vehicles.
I do not record the acutal miles of the trip, but the book states about 140 miles for the whole Kokopelli trip.
What was not included in the actual trip are the side we took, like Top of the World, the Delores river water crossing, and the trip on the highway and back to Onion Creek.
So I would guess I average with my truck about 8 MPG for the average of it all. I would guess when I did the scout trip, moving at a different pace, I got a better MPG, may be burned about 15 gallons.
But one needs to move at the pace the whole group can, so more fuel consumption is going to happen.
I do not know if that tells you what you want Randy, but a few of the bigger rigs may of made it on one tank if we did not go back and forth to the onion creek trail head to the Dewey bridge(about 40 miles highway on lower tire pressures). Plus going back up to the trail split the next day to back track up to the split at the top of the trail (about 5 miles all up hill on dirt and traveling slow).
Hope that helps Randy, what do you figure you get offroad in you Buggie? How big is your fuel tank in your rig?

Air Randy
05-19-2011, 09:20 AM
Well Randy you really do not have a 40, but a buggie.

Don't forget we still have the Blue Mule when a less buggified vehicle is appropriate. It has the stock 16 gal (I think?) tank and a 6 gal jerry can on the tire carrier. I could probably rig up a couple more external can mounts if needed. It has the 2F, H61 4 spd and orion TC. If you can run most of the trail in high range using the granny 1st gear of the H61 the mileage will be a lot better. If it's mostly low range stuff then the 4-1 ratio of the orion becomes a factor. It has 4.88 gears and 37" IROK radials.

We drove from our house in Franktown up to the snowrun location this year, spent a lot of time churning around in the snow in low range and made it back home on the same tank of gas. Sounds like we could probably make it without too much extra effort.

The Meanie is actually just as roadable as the Mule but doesn't have much storage space in the back for tents & coolers and such.

Anyone that couldn't make it to Moab interested in doing this as a club run some time this summer before it gets too hot?

rover67
05-19-2011, 09:36 AM
I usually budget 8 mpg for any off road trip that involves heavier wheeling or heavy throttle. If it is lighter wheeling and more easy going I budget 10mpg.

that's in my rig with the same v-8 meanie has.

DaveInDenver
05-19-2011, 09:41 AM
Robbie, have you driven White Rim in your 80? If so, how did your fuel consumption compare? I tend to get the equivalent of about 10 MPG on average, although I prefer to do my calcs in gallons per hour. It's funny, though, my truck generally gets close to the same gal/hr regardless if it's 65MPH on the highway or intermittent 4wd-low.

bh4rnnr
05-19-2011, 10:05 AM
Robbie, have you driven White Rim in your 80? If so, how did your fuel consumption compare? I tend to get the equivalent of about 10 MPG on average, although I prefer to do my calcs in gallons per hour. It's funny, though, my truck generally gets close to the same gal/hr regardless if it's 65MPH on the highway or intermittent 4wd-low.

I rode along a fwe years ago with Robbie and another from the Trail Teams, we ended up doing the Rim in a day (a lazy day at that:cool:) but I didnt monitor his fuel:blah:

powderpig
05-19-2011, 10:57 AM
I do not think I burned more than a 1/2 tank or less on that trip. I only dropped into low range for going down the steep stuff, the rest was a good cruise at 25 -30 mph or more when we could.
Yes I forgot the blue mule, If you can go at a better MPH then you may be well enough off, I just would watch how much fuel you have at the different jump off points to get into Moab, Dewey bridge is the easiest. The rest are further away from Moab and fuel.

rhyary
06-23-2011, 02:20 PM
Hey,
Just wanted to say a late thanks to Robbie and Chris, Bill and Dan.
I loved being three days out like that. I hope will have it next year as well.
I used full tank plus 2 x 20L and came back to Moab with the needle on empty but no light.

Rami

Gerdo
01-11-2012, 08:03 AM
I have a small group thinking about running the Kokopelli. Is there a good guide book or map that you would suggest?

Doc McCoy
01-11-2012, 05:42 PM
Missed this thread. It was great wheeling with all you guys! Hope to see all of ya this year!

Caribou Sandstorm
01-11-2012, 09:19 PM
I have a small group thinking about running the Kokopelli. Is there a good guide book or map that you would suggest?

I have the Moab East Trails topo map. I picked mine up at the Moab visitors center. It is the purple one, there are a set of 3 or 4, each one a different color.

It has the entire Kokopelli trail, which is a made up of several trails.

www.latitude40maps.com, is the maker of the maps.

Hope this helps.

Gerdo
01-12-2012, 08:33 AM
I have the Moab East Trails topo map. I picked mine up at the Moab visitors center. It is the purple one, there are a set of 3 or 4, each one a different color.

It has the entire Kokopelli trail, which is a made up of several trails.

www.latitude40maps.com, is the maker of the maps.

Hope this helps.

Great info. Thanks

Gerdo
01-12-2012, 04:59 PM
What would you rate this trail? (traildamage ratings) Or compare the tough sections too? I have wheeled a lot in Moab so it could be compared to those.

Caribou Sandstorm
01-13-2012, 07:14 PM
Pretty breezy, probably a 3 out 10 mostly except for post Top of the world section and Rose Garden Hill. Maybe a 6 out of 10 overall?

Rose Garden is tough but you are going down hill. The route is right/center-right all the way down.

The section post Top of the World can be narrow and washed out, potentially needing some rock stacking at times, then there is a ledgy climb that may require some creative angled climbing if you are without A-trac or lockers. But it is doable if you are open in 4x4 low.

I also meant to tell you about the first section between Cisco Landing and Fish Ford camp area. Just as you pass Fish Ford camp area and cross over the paved road back to dirt. There is a Koko sign to the left and a well traveled road straight ahead. You want to stay straight here. This is the only time you will not follow the koko signs.. going left at this juncture would take you to single track and is not passable via 4x4 vehicle.

Then as you meander straight west, you will find you are in a nice open valley, their will be a faint right turn not to far maybe half a mile or so, looks like the road less traveled but you want to turn right here, the road more traveled pics up again and is obvious, as it takes you north into Cisco landing.

The gate may be open or closed. Remember the rule for gates, if open-leave open, if closed..open-pass through-close behind you..

Cisco takes you to 128, you travel about 5 miles or so on this highway before seeing the koko sign on your right. Along the way you will encounter another gate in this section, same drill.

Hope this helps.

RyanR
01-18-2012, 08:45 AM
Hey guys, I am new here, my name is Ryan as you can probably tell from my username. I am very interested in doing the 2012 Kokopelli double over-nighter. I have been watching the Cruise Moab site for registration to open but I was wondering if you guys do any sort of pre-registration since your group is running the event?

Just read through the thread and it looks a great trip. Hopefully I will get to join you guys this year and if not have a great time and I'll see you in Moab!

Ryan

ranchero
01-18-2012, 09:28 PM
Hey - fun to see my rig here. Those biker babes were hotties!
Ryan - that was my first time on Kokopelli. I rode in the cruiser in the first picture with Tobascofish. I bought it from him a few weeks later. Kokopelli was a blast - bunch of fun guys to hang out with for a few days and stunning scenery.

Caribou Sandstorm
01-19-2012, 11:45 AM
So what is Tobascofish driving now that you have his Land Cruiser?

jonharis
01-19-2012, 01:20 PM
I have the Moab East Trails topo map. I picked mine up at the Moab visitors center. It is the purple one, there are a set of 3 or 4, each one a different color.

It has the entire Kokopelli trail, which is a made up of several trails.

www.latitude40maps.com, is the maker of the maps.

Hope this helps.

May I add, the National Geographic Trails Illustrated #501 and 502 would be good additions to your collection and contain most of the Utah segments of the trail.

Delorme's, Utah and Colorado Gazetteer are great for big picture and most if not all of the route is depicted but not labeled.

Also, Late model Toyota navigation has most of the trail route indicated pretty accurately :D

Feel free to stop in for a beer on your way to the trailhead!

Gerdo
01-22-2012, 08:01 PM
Does anyone see any reason that the Kokopelli Trail can't be run from Moab to Colorado?
Even Rose Garden Hill is a Traildamage 3-4 http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=128 and from what I hear, that is the hardest part of the trail. True?

Someone also mentioned that there is a lot of brush (causing scratches on rigs) in a couple of areas. Is this true?

Caribou Sandstorm
01-22-2012, 11:49 PM
You could run it from Moab, it is not a directional trail.

No brush really, unless you forgot your map and tried to navigate the single track section in your rig, which will not only get you mega pin stripes but also get you stuck...I hate that I have first hand knowledge of this..:o

Gerdo
01-23-2012, 03:55 PM
You could run it from Moab, it is not a directional trail.

No brush really, unless you forgot your map and tried to navigate the single track section in your rig, which will not only get you mega pin stripes but also get you stuck...I hate that I have first hand knowledge of this..:o

Thanks for the info.
I'm trying to accommodate 8 peoples schedules and was thinking about starting in Moab. I'm going to keep it from Fruita to Moab. It gives a better feel knowing that we're heading to Moab. A real destination.

Caribou Sandstorm
01-23-2012, 07:45 PM
I think that is a good call. It is really a great route into Moab.