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Red_Chili
06-28-2011, 01:00 PM
Making an offer on a home near Evergreen ... so there are limitations on internet access. Wild Blue seems like the only option - true? What others should I look at?

This is working remotely a day a week, multiple remote desktop sessions and data... and the hog of hogs, Netflix :lmao:. Real world testimonials? What say y'all?

MountainGoat
06-28-2011, 02:29 PM
If you don't have Qwest DSL access you are pretty much limited to satellite with one exception: There is a company called Wispertel (might have changed their name to Skybeam) that has decent high speed access with a couple of provisions: 1) You must have line of sight access to one of their towers and 2) you can get a wonky installation that results in frequent outages - like if the wind blows, if it rains or snows or if you don't hold your mouth just so. I have seen their installations either work great or be a massive PIA. In my experience about 75% are fine and about 25% either suck or blow seriously. :hill:

Here is a link:

SKYBEAM High-Speed Internet and Digital Phone Services (http://www.skybeam.com/)

There is a local forum up here in the Bailey/Pine/Conifer/Evergreen area that is a wealth of information. It also contains a good deal of whiny bitching. Pinecam (http://www.pinecam.com)

I've lived in the area for about 12 years, so if you have any other questions ask away! :thumb:

Red_Chili
06-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Thanks Dan, I also stumbled across Skybeam (the name did change). They sound about on par with the tech guy from Wild Blue who was not really knowledgeable on Skybeam for comparison. I was not really happy with the sales schpiel from WB. Pretty high pressure.

Skybeam is $45/mo for equipment and 5Mbps so a better deal.

Thanks for the info! Will start researching.

waggoner5
06-28-2011, 03:11 PM
I have Skybeam and it works well. Also use their system for VOIP and so far....only a couple of outages in 3 years.

corsair23
06-28-2011, 04:10 PM
For WB Hulk is your man :D - at least he can probably provide you some info

I assume you have ruled out Qwest/CenturyLink as an option either by choice or by availabiliy?

MDH33
06-28-2011, 06:47 PM
Bill, we live in Evergreen and use Comcast cable high speed internet. It's not available everywhere, but it's in our 'hood. Where area are you looking at?

Red_Chili
06-28-2011, 10:54 PM
Upper North Turkey Creek. Just found out Comcast does have service in the neighborhood ...

nakman
06-28-2011, 11:33 PM
Upper North Turkey Creek. ...

oh sure, rub it in.. :o

Red_Chili
06-28-2011, 11:42 PM
oh sure, rub it in.. :o

Well... a bit south of THAT far north... :lmao:
Apparently 30 minutes from about everywhere. :p::p:

Hulk
06-29-2011, 01:56 AM
If you can get Comcast, you probably don't want WildBlue service. However, our new satellite launches in August and we'll have 12 Mbps service starting around Nov. 1. It will be worthy of consideration.

Beater
06-29-2011, 06:28 AM
why not hughes/echostar?

Red_Chili
06-29-2011, 08:31 AM
From what I read on Pinecam, the order of quality and support is (if available in an area):
Comcast
Qwest (maybe, it seems to be getting worse which is my current experience)
Skybeam if you have line of sight. Some latency. Pretty fast, pretty cheap. Those that like it really like it. Some hate it.
Wild Blue - but be aware that a bandwidth slot may not be open and be aware of download limits that bump your speed down to share bandwidth with others. Also, one second or more latency may occur, making remote desktop interesting. Folks that have no other options but dialup use them and seem to like them OK.
Hughes, not many seem to use them
Dish (but you need DSL). Not really clear if you actually use any Dish infrastructure or if it is merely a bundle. I hate Dish. Didn't pursue it.

Skybeam seems to be the least expensive and pretty fast if your install is good... but customer service seems spotty in quality and you may have to wait if you have a problem (understaffed).

Man, something in me just grates at the thought of paying Comcast. It's the fastest and most stable though. I only want internet, I don't watch TV. Yech.

MDH33
06-29-2011, 09:16 AM
Man, something in me just grates at the thought of paying Comcast. It's the fastest and most stable though. I only want internet, I don't watch TV. Yech.

Same here. We just have the high speed internet and phone. No cable tv. Works great.

AxleIke
06-29-2011, 09:26 AM
My parents live quite rural up near Pine. They have hughes. I wouldn't recommend them. The speed is okay, about as fast as you'd expect from a satelite, but the customer service has a little to be desired.

Comcast is, well, comcast. Personally, I hate them, but, if you have the oportunity to get cable service up there, that is likely the best option. Snow and weather systems (thunderstorms) will affect at least the Hughes service, and I'd expect the other satelite options as well.

Skybeam seems to be awesome. The "neighbor" up the mountain from my parents can get that, and swears by it.

DaveInDenver
06-29-2011, 09:30 AM
Consider that you need >5Mbps to get HD Netflix streaming, so factor that in your choices. For example Hughes and Wild Blue (for the moment until ViaSat gets the new bird up) won't do it I assume. Plus Hughes still uses that antique rolling 24 hour cap, so a big download locks you out for the rest of the day. This is a major PITA when a big OS update comes down the pike. We've been on our Qwest DSL for 8+ years now, it's been reliable, particularly since they rolled out FTTP in our area. We currently sit at the 20Mbps tier (highest I could go with my ADSL2+ modem, we are qualified for bonded 40Mbps if I want to replace the modem). We get negotiated 20Mbps with actual throughput of ~17Mbps

Red_Chili
06-29-2011, 10:30 AM
Yeah, Qwest has been iffy for me in Littleton. They did line tests and everything, yet could not explain why my 6Mbps would sometimes drop below 1Mbps. Not within their system, the guy said. Yeah right. Maybe the cat 5 cable coming out of the back of their router got wet where it plugged into them internets. :lmao:

It's all moot... Qwest doesn't have DSL up there. Sounds like I weigh the expense and speed of Comcast versus the simplicity, decent speed, and affordability (along with some customer service issues) of Skybeam. [EDIT: I found out the tower I spied on top of the mountain near there - visible from the front porch - is the Skybeam Doubleheader tower. So no problems there. Skybeam is *up to* 5Mbps so that is a bummer - real world, what, 2.5Mbps?]

FWIW, Comcast can't find my new address in their system so they don't know if they do or don't. The local office should know.

And yeah, the seller accepted the offer so I is under contract... :D

MountainGoat
06-29-2011, 11:37 AM
And yeah, the seller accepted the offer so I is under contract... :D

Congrats! Hope all goes well, and if so, welcome to the neighborhood! :woot:

Red_Chili
06-29-2011, 02:59 PM
Why, thankee!
BTW, I had been giving Comcast the wrong zip code. Funny how easy they could find it with the right one. Googlemaps was wrong... :lmao:
So kinda leaning Comcasty now. :doh:

RockRunner
06-29-2011, 05:35 PM
Congrats Bill, I agree with giving Comcast money but for us it is the best choice and for you I would think the same. Movies stream with no problem and we can remote onto other users systems like we were in front of them. It is pricey but when they have you by the proverbial Mbps's you got to play.

Woodsman
06-30-2011, 10:48 PM
I'm not in your area but can say this much: 1) I have line-of-sight broadband internet from a tower in town less than two miles as the bird flies and it is generally very good. The original Motorola receiver got water in it and had to be replaced and I was without internet for a week in April due to a lightning strike on the transmitting tower. There have been some other minor hiccups in the last five years but not bad overall.
2) My brother has Wild Blue and has been happy with it. He set it up with wireless and a couple of neighbors use it and share the cost.
3) In my area Verizon/Frontier is now offering high speed over the phone lines and I will probably switch to this to save some $$$.

None of the options above is as fast as some of the high speed available in "the big cities" but they are about a gazillion times better than dial-up.

Hulk
07-05-2011, 10:34 AM
2) My brother has Wild Blue and has been happy with it. He set it up with wireless and a couple of neighbors use it and share the cost.

FYI: this is a violation of the WildBlue customer agreement.

Cheers,
Your friendly neighborhood WildBlue employee :rolleyes:

baileyfj40
07-05-2011, 01:51 PM
Bill;

Where on North turkey crk u thinking, my plow route.

Woodsman
07-05-2011, 09:29 PM
FYI: this is a violation of the WildBlue customer agreement.

Cheers,
Your friendly neighborhood WildBlue employee :rolleyes:

Oh, I must have been mistaken. :D

Red_Chili
07-06-2011, 10:01 AM
Bill;

Where on North turkey crk u thinking, my plow route.
N. Turkey Creek and Danks Drive, from there east. Danks is 'bout a mile east of that freaking awesome game animal ranchette with the 8x8 bulls feasting on hay... :lmao:

GORGEOUS animals. Something about them munching there reminds me of Rising Sun after-meeting get togethers at Hopps though. Except the attractive part. :doh:

N. Turkey Creek Mountain Park will be my back yard. Yesterday there were two nice bucks in velvet bedded down there, inspecting the place for unguarded birdseed...

Do you plow Danks and Gartner?

baileyfj40
07-06-2011, 10:27 AM
10-4

bh4rnnr
07-06-2011, 12:30 PM
Congrats Bill. Now you dont have any reason for missing one of the many get togethers atr Indian Creek Park Ranch:p:

Red_Chili
07-06-2011, 12:35 PM
10-4
Shoot me a call before you drive by and I'll hand you a coffee to-go... unless it's 2AM of course. :lmao:

Red_Chili
07-06-2011, 12:36 PM
Congrats Bill. Now you dont have any reason for missing one of the many get togethers atr Indian Creek Park Ranch:p:
True dat. What's the long/lat?

bh4rnnr
07-06-2011, 12:43 PM
True dat. What's the long/lat?

You'll have to ask others for that. It's at the end of Yankee Creek. We back up to Evans Ranch, Mt. Evans Wilderness and the Elk Preserve.

baileyfj40
07-06-2011, 01:43 PM
We need 2 edit phones numbers I have 4 you. You sold the Littleton place?

Red_Chili
07-06-2011, 02:41 PM
Fixing it up to sell it. Should go on the market within a month or so. Doing it that way sure makes moving a BUNCH SIMPLER. I close on the new place 5 August. Then I have some remodel to do up there too.

Plan on keeping the numbers. Way too much effort to change things, too much is tied to them. Now that they let you keep them, why not? So the cell and landline are good!

Lars
07-06-2011, 02:51 PM
true Dat. What's The Long/lat?

39.594131,-105.47714

Red_Chili
07-06-2011, 03:05 PM
Ah... not walking distance! :lmao:
Not too far though.