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farnhamstj
08-22-2005, 09:30 PM
So my rig is back on the road rolling on a new frame, motor/body mounts, fuel/brake lines. Just got to bolt up skid plate and cage. We'll meet at the trailhead at 8:30am on trail by 9am. There is both free and pay camping on homestake road (fr703). Homestake is between Minturn and Leadville on Hwy 24. There is no gas in the town of Redcliff. There is a "parking lot" at trailhead(fr759). We will do lunch at Holy Cross City. The Trail is rated Very Difficult. Body damage may occur. Locker good. I'll be in England visiting my grandparents Aug 25 to 30th. So I won't be able to answer many questions until I return. Looking forward to seeing everyone there.

bh4rnnr
08-22-2005, 10:06 PM
Thanks Farnham for leading this! I think I might end up riding along, I realy want to get some good pics of this trail.... We will see. Oh, and that reminds me, got to send this info to Jeremiah, sounds like they want to come....

JadeRunner
08-23-2005, 08:22 AM
I ran it on Friday with at the Runner Jambo. I hate to say it, but French Creek is now clearly more difficult. It's 35" tire country, unless you want to winch\drag your belly over it. Only 2 people made it over without winching (on 35's and 37's). Another guy broke his axle while winching and after giving it heck. I didn't attempt it and probably will never attempt it the way it is now.

It's still a nice run to the creek and you can always park and ride with others beyond the creek.

Evrgrnmtnman
08-23-2005, 09:16 AM
I heard a guy in a stock Rav4 with 2x6 boards made it through French Creek... :D

farnhamstj
08-23-2005, 07:54 PM
It is not easy, but can be done with 33's. As trail leader I will not be winching, and yes I intend to "drag my belly" across some nasty rocks. I used to get up with 32 A/T's but not without rear locker. If it were easy would it be as much fun. I like the left line that dents the front fender and door. I've never seen anyone make it up the right/ center line. Seen a few people try... If youv'e got over 35's I'll be looking to see how it's done :D

Kipper
08-24-2005, 03:22 PM
Hey Guys, just got an email from Gert, here's a quote:

Gert, you'll learn quickly that asking for a spare seat is no problem at all with this group.

Yea! I was trying to send one to Perry and I kept getting an error.
Thanks for the response!

I am planning to join the club and will come to the next meeting to make
sure you'll put up with me. : ) But I read about the Holy Cross run
coming up. Now, this is were I get really difficult. I just bought a brand new Tacoma Off-Road. I know there is NO WAY it will make it on Holy
Cross, nor would I try anything that crazy with my new baby. So, I'm
wondering if any of you would ever consider taking a rider? I know that is forward considering none of you know me. I'll take the oath of no back-seat driving and I can bake if bribery is needed! : ) I've done a lot of off-roading with my Dad but Holy Cross was out of our league (we only had stock vehicles) and I'd love to see it!

If not, no worries, I'll just hope to meet the folks I've seen on the website at the next meeting. If there might be someone willing to do that,
just let me know the details and count me in! : )

THANKS Kipper! Look forward to meeting you!

-Gert

Andra "Gert" Gerstenkorn
Property Management Specialist
BLM
303-236-9403

BTW - Perry, is something wrong with your email?

bh4rnnr
08-24-2005, 05:59 PM
E-mail?, not that I know of.... Havent checked it at all today. Do we get a e-mail through the web site??

Gert
08-26-2005, 10:27 AM
Hello Everyone!

Thanks, Kipper, for sharing my email. I was beginning to feel a little shy about this begging for a ride thing...guess you handled that for me! :) I am planning to be in Leadville over the Labor Day weekend anyway. If anyone really doesn't mind dragging a complete stranger along, I would be thrilled to go!

Otherwise, I will just look forward to meeting you folks at the meeting in September.

I tried to email Perry using the address listed with his name under the "Officers" tab. For some reason, I kept getting an "Undeliverable" message to that address, but Kipper's worked fine. Hope that helps.

Thanks again!
Gert

bh4rnnr
08-26-2005, 12:09 PM
Looks like i'll be heading up friday night some time after work. Crash in Vail until the run. And I am gonna ride along. Sounds like the Newt will be there, dont know about the rest of the crew... Anybody going to camp Sunday night? Who else is planning on going?

Evrgrnmtnman
08-28-2005, 08:24 PM
Looking at the Colorado4x4 board. Looks like Holy Cross is going to be a busy place this coming weekend. Hope you have plenty of patience.......French Creek is going to be a traffic jam.....Oh well..........you got 3 days anyway.

JadeRunner
08-28-2005, 09:04 PM
Sorry, but I won't be making this one. It's a real nice trail. You guys have a good time. Get up their real early.

farnhamstj
08-31-2005, 06:59 AM
Just back from visiting my Grandparents for their 60th wedding avaversary. I had a great trip and was glad to see them in good health. I hope my wife and I are still together after 60 years. I'm looking forward to this run and think my rig is ready. I'll do a few "test" drives to and from work this week.

Who is planning on attending?
Anyone is welcome stay at my house in Vail sat night. pm me please.
Any questions I can answer?
Stock Tacoma trd could easily make it to Frenches gulch, park and ride there.

JadeRunner
08-31-2005, 08:13 AM
I'll give 1000.00 and a piece of elk jerky to anyone that can make it accross French Creek on 33's without a strap or cable. :D Massive rock stacking not allowed.

I'm of course joking on the 1000.00.

treerootCO
08-31-2005, 08:50 AM
The left line is doable with 33s. You will need lockers and good tread. I'll admit I have 37s but you can download the video here:

http://www.actionjackson.com/cruiser/videos/2005/2005HolyCross2.wmv

Action Jackson's web page (http://www.actionjackson.com/cruiser/trailrun.asp?TrailRunID=36#Videos)

Uncle Ben
08-31-2005, 08:54 AM
I'll give 1000.00 and a piece of elk jerky to anyone that can make it accross French Creek on 33's without a strap or cable. :D Massive rock stacking not allowed.

I'm of course joking on the 1000.00.

So I have to put the 285's on? Thought I was done with the "training wheels." ;) That sounds like easy money! Is stacking alowed just to keep the sheetmetal off the large rock on the side? :confused:
BTW, $1k is no joking matter....you offered I plan on collecting! :eek:

JadeRunner
08-31-2005, 10:50 AM
The large rock on the bank on the left line has fallen down so it has to be driven over now. It's rather large. This happened since Jackson's video was taken. The line in the video was way easier comparatively. link (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=41875)
I'm telling you it is so difficult based on 2 weeks ago. Who knows by this weekend that may have winch the rock out of the way, but I doubt it.

treerootCO
08-31-2005, 11:03 AM
interesting....

from that same post:

Uncle Ben
08-31-2005, 11:43 AM
The large rock on the bank on the left line has fallen down so it has to be driven over now. It's rather large. This happened since Jackson's video was taken. The line in the video was way easier comparatively. link (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=41875)
I'm telling you it is so difficult based on 2 weeks ago. Who knows by this weekend that may have winch the rock out of the way, but I doubt it.

Interesting! Sounds like you have some inside information which makes that a loaded bet. ;) How about if I leave the 35's on and only use the rear locker....can I collect the $1k if I make it? :rolleyes:

Gert
08-31-2005, 12:25 PM
I would like to say THANK YOU for letting me barge in on your Holy Cross discussion. I will absolutely be at the next meeting and can't wait to take a run with you all, but...mother nature changed my plans. I have some extensive Red Cross experience and have decided to spend my 3-day weekend trying to help those folks down South. I hate giving up my Leadville plans and the generous offer for me to ride along, but duty calls.

Have a great time! You'll have to put up with me on the next one! :p

Thanks again!

-Gert

farnhamstj
08-31-2005, 06:33 PM
If that rock has moved it will be intersting. I'll still try in my little 33's but maybe someone with more rubber can take the lead at that point. I'll certainly try and would like to collect on that 1K wager. At least it won't eat my fender or door again.

farnhamstj
08-31-2005, 06:42 PM
You made it look real easy in that video. Now I wish I had 37's.

JadeRunner
08-31-2005, 10:59 PM
Someone should get some video of Treeroot and Keven going through the creek. They will have their hands full. But will probably spank it. Big flex, front lockers, gears, armor and power. Get er done. 35" + country beyond the creek.

I have video but havn't got it together to post. That's what sucks. Taking the video is easy.

bh4rnnr
09-02-2005, 12:37 PM
Talked with Joe C today. Sounds like he will be there, along with two other people. Should be a fun trip. See ya'all sunday.

treerootCO
09-02-2005, 02:41 PM
Dang it, I just realized the 4th is Labor Day weekend!

Uncle Ben
09-02-2005, 05:12 PM
Dang it, I just realized the 4th is Labor Day weekend!

Ya....and so.....? :confused:

Uncle Ben
09-02-2005, 05:18 PM
I definately will NOT be going to HC this weekend. :( Daughter #2 is throwing a large picnic/bash on Sunday for her HS friends so someone needs to man the assult rifle....I could ask Romer but I'm sure his hands are full....lots of "Tards" out there...gotta be ready on the trigger!!!!!! Take my advice...do the natural animal thing and eat your young BEFORE they get out of middle school! :eek:

Rzeppa
09-02-2005, 05:34 PM
Talked with Joe C today. Sounds like he will be there, along with two other people.Yeah, he called me yesterday and asked me about it, I gave him the details over the phone. I told him about this board, but I don't think he's on it yet.

farnhamstj
09-02-2005, 06:36 PM
Working retail I'm pretty unaware of hollidays. I would have picked a different day knowing it was a holiday. Too late now. We should have a few rigs there and good turnout. I had some serious vacume problems yesterday and was afraid I might not make it. She's still idleing a little high but seems to have plenty of power. I'm looking forward to this trip and the weather sounds good. We could always try the right line is the left is too much now. I'm sure I'll get across one way or another. I didn't get a winch for nothing. Hope to see some familiar faces and a few new ones. Hope news of it being more difficult didn't scare anyone away. There toyotas they're made to be abused. :eek: I knew I should have bought 35's, What was I thinking?

bh4rnnr
09-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Farnham, give me a call sometime. I'll be in Vail all weekend :) . Gonna go for a hike tomarrow for most of the day but will be drinking again tomarrow :D . Forgot where about you live up here. My freind is in the far west Vail area.....

cell: 720-308-3290.

farnhamstj
09-05-2005, 07:45 AM
We had a great time. Special thanks to Joe from CTS for much needed spotting. There were six rigs total. Turned out to be a good size, as we just ahead of a group of 13 :eek: Perry was photo man, and I'm sure will post up some good pics. We suffered one injury, From a knife stored in a tool box. Jey filleted his finger before we even left the parking lot. I suffered a flat due to bent rim, but was able to hammer it back and fill it up. A blown fuse on a Lexus was the only other damage suffered.
I've got some serious 40" tire envy.

JadeRunner
09-05-2005, 12:15 PM
We will be looking for the complete trip report.