View Full Version : Feb 1st Colorado Trail Patrol Training

01-18-2012, 02:02 PM
In an effort to speed through the CTP training, I am going to post some of the slides with brief explanations here. There are several subjects the agencies would like our volunteers to be familiar with, but they are very basic concepts that most of you already are aware of.

Please take a few moments to read through before the Feb 1st Club Meeting. During the meeting, I will be showing everyone how to use the database. The following posts are to tell you more about the program and some of the "rules".

01-18-2012, 02:27 PM
This program is a response to a need. The agencies need volunteers and organizations to help monitor trail conditions and other issues that are developing within their districts. They do not have the ability to check every trail on a timely schedule.


We are here to fill that gap. As a community, we will be riding the trails. Better monitoring equates to better management and maintenance. Better management will keep trails sustainable. Sustainable trails will be there for years to come.


The additional "eyes and ears" on the trails will make a difference.

01-18-2012, 02:41 PM
You can help in a very simple way.
We have all run across downed trees, collapsed banks, or even people off trail like this guy

We have established communication with the Trail Coordinators, Recreation Managers, and Planners within the different districts around the state. By utilizing our database when you get home, the info you provide is guaranteed to reach the proper people. No more trying to find email addresses, waiting on hold, etc.

01-18-2012, 03:28 PM
History of the Program:

Back in 2003, a group of volunteers began an effort to help save Carnage in Lefthand Canyon. They would talk to people who were about to run the trail and encourage them to Stay The Trail, go over obstacle (not around), etc.

This program grew some legs and was an active part of Stay the Trail in the early years. As STT grew, CTP was put on hold.

With a fully functional database, we were given the funding to restart the program this summer through a joint pilot program alongside the Forest Service, BLM, and CO State Parks.

The season went incredibly well. Some of your fellow club members were apart of this new round of volunteers. We have proven that this system is beneficial to the OHV community and management agencies.

The future is looking very promising!

01-18-2012, 03:36 PM
Any good organization needs to have rules. We have a few. Most are very straightforward. There are a few that I want to explain in person.

Bad things can happen when you are out in the woods alone. We don't want anything to happen to our volunteers.
OHV regulations are important to know. The next post will include a summation.

You can find more info on responsible usage through Stay The Trail and TreadLightly! on their websites.

01-18-2012, 03:40 PM

You can find the specific laws here: http://parks.state.co.us/OHVsandSnowmobiles/OHVProgram/OHVLawsRegulations/Pages/Regulations%20and%20Statutes.aspx

01-18-2012, 03:47 PM
We also want our volunteers to know about the Travel Management Rule that was passed back in 2005. This is the rule that requires each National Forest to create a Motor Vehicle Use Map and closed some routes that had been open for decades.

It also shifted the responsibility onto us, the trail users, to know what trails are open for our use before we go there. The Forest Service no longer has to use closed gates to close seasonal trails. All of that info has been transfered to the MVUM maps. Stay the Trail has compiled all this info for you. They have also digitalized the MVUM maps and created an overlay on top of Google Maps.
Check out http://staythetrail.org/maps/index.php


01-18-2012, 03:56 PM
The last aspect of this that is crucial to the program....
No one gets a badge after CTP training. The information you provide CAN get passed to the top Agent-in-Charge within Region 2.
We do not want anyone to walk away from our program thinking that they can go confront all the bad-apples out there on the trails. Truth is that those people who are being idiots are the most unstable ones and if you confront them, they could react very poorly.


01-20-2012, 02:14 PM
Feel free to post up and questions. Looking forward to the meeting!

01-20-2012, 02:35 PM
Thanks Matt! I posted up some other threads that point to this one, so hopefully everyone will be able to read this material by the time the meeting comes around!

01-30-2012, 03:26 PM

01-31-2012, 10:55 AM
What other programs is STT pursuing to educate the average guy who owns an ATV and likes to go blazing through unexplored territory with his buddies and a cooler of beer? Educating us is great, but it's kind of like preaching to the choir.

01-31-2012, 12:44 PM
Very good question.
STT is the program that is focused on educating those folks. Their mission is education and outreach to people who do not have proper edict and ethics out on the trails. STT is going to spend most of the upcoming season out at trailheads reaching those people.

Last season was a little rough because of staff turnover (i.e. Justing leaving for AK & Tread Lightly!), but Sam, STT's long-time seasonal is the new program coordinator. He has a passion for resource management and teaching that make a huge impact around the state.

The Colorado Trail Patrol is a program that is utilizing the community of the "choir" to reach the next level. We know that well organized clubs such as Rising Sun are the people who have shown that they want to protect trails and resources.

Through this program, we are giving volunteer's an easy way to alert the USFS and BLM to the issues brought about by those "under-educated" guys tearing stuff up. Helping them know where issues are happening will help them direct resources and enforcement to areas that need it the most.

Caribou Sandstorm
01-31-2012, 09:25 PM
I reviewed this stuff, thanks for posting up. I will be late to the meeting tomorrow night.

02-02-2012, 09:01 AM
I wanted to thank Matt again for coming and doing this presentation for us last night - I thought it went really well and there were lots of good questions asked and answers given :thumb:

02-02-2012, 09:36 AM
Great use of meeting time! Thank you Matt and Subzali!

02-02-2012, 01:32 PM
Big thanks to ya'll! Appreciated the great questions too and the great discussion.

Getting everyones info put into the system right now. If you don't see a email from me this afternoon, send me a quick email. There were a few forms that I am not positive I got the address correct.

02-10-2012, 12:10 AM
If anyone missed the meeting this month and is interested in participating, please contact us! Feel free to email me at Matt@StayTheTrail.org.

02-11-2012, 11:08 PM
The CTP program seems like a good thing to do. But, if the volunteers post up on forums/websites pics of peeps OFF trail, that's just more ammunition the "anti-access" groups can throw in our face, to support their cause of CLOSING TRAILS!! :rolleyes:

02-11-2012, 11:10 PM
^^ something to think about! What is the CTP's thoughts on this?????

02-12-2012, 10:00 AM
^^ X2

Unfortunately, there are those that will use the fruits of our positive intentions (alert of damaged areas for repair or blockading) as a tool for their perceived positive intentions (closing our trails from gasoline power).

Unfortunately, this is a battle between two groups that genuinely and sincerely believe they are doing "the right thing".

"Everything you say can be used against you."

HOWEVER. Great thing here, and I'd like to learn more.

Uncle Ben
02-12-2012, 10:27 AM
The trail reports are not publicly seen. CTP gathers the information and distributes it to the agency or even Adopt-a-club that need the information. Non patrol members cannot see any of this information.

02-12-2012, 12:20 PM
Patrol members cannot even see the information once it's been entered into the database. It goes only to CTP employees and from there gets passed straight on to the enforcement agencies (BLM, USFS etc.).


02-28-2012, 12:56 PM
^^^Matt and Kevin are 100% correct. The detailed reports are only seen by our staff. Most of the time, I summarize the reports in our correspondance with agency staff, unless there is something very specific that needs to be relayed.

This information will not be used to close trails. This is a common concern, and I understand the sentiment behind it, but it is simply not how the process works. With the current TMP, a NEPA study is required to remove anything from the MVUM. Providing info about fallen trees, drainage issues, or even that idiot doing donuts at the trailhead will only allow the trails to be BETTER managed so that they remain open. At the moment, most districts are lucky if their Recreation Managers get on the trails once or twice a year. Districts are stuck being reactive to the issues that have been left alone for years. This programs gives them the opportunity to address smaller problems as they develop, so that the districts can get ahead of the curve and hopefully move away from being forced to be reactive.

The other MAJOR benefit of this program is the empirical data collection. At the moment 75% of trip reports contain no issues. The rest are mostly signage and small maintenance needs to that would get a trail system into perfect shape. This information is a slap in the face to the anti-access organization who believe that the trails systems are going to hell in a handbasket. Along the same front, a law enforcement pilot program this last summer found that 98% of people on the trails are in compliance with registration. Positive, factual information is our best defense against people who do not understand what is actually happening on the trail.

If you like to create your own trails, do donuts in meadows, shoot up signs or dump trash, then this program should scare you because you are a minority and the enemy of the true OHV community. These people are the ones whose actions are ruining it for the rest of us.

I would also like to submit this for thought: Is there real harm in trying a new system of assisting the agencies? How have the last 10 years gone for the community without an organized assistance effort? Want to just continue along the same path and just hope that tides turn, or would you rather band together with other like-minded enthusiasts and attempt something that is a fresh approach.

Lastly, COHVCO supports this program and approach. They are the watchmen for our sport here in CO. They wouldnt back a program that would jeopardize everything they work for.

02-28-2012, 01:23 PM
Good deal Matt, I think you're spot-on with working together in a new, united effort among many OHV groups to keep trails open.

Uncle Ben
02-28-2012, 01:31 PM
Good deal Matt, I think you're spot-on with working together in a new, united effort among many OHV groups to keep trails open.

I concur! I see this as a win-win! :thumb::thumb: