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PhatFJ
01-25-2012, 12:44 PM
Quick question, any problems putting an h-55 5spd out of an 1984 FJ-60 into a 1988 FJ-62 with an auto in it now?
Thanks, Brian

subzali
01-25-2012, 12:59 PM
Besides the fact that you're going from an auto to a manual? I know a guy on the BOWAGWR this past summer had issues shifting into low range, can't remember the exact reason though.

What do you have planned Brian? You're asking about SAS on a 4runner, H55 into an FJ62..., you've got me curious ;)

PhatFJ
01-25-2012, 01:14 PM
Besides the fact that you're going from an auto to a manual? I know a guy on the BOWAGWR this past summer had issues shifting into low range, can't remember the exact reason though.

What do you have planned Brian? You're asking about SAS on a 4runner, H55 into an FJ62..., you've got me curious ;)

Just looking at different options for projects.
I think keeping the FJ-62 as an auto might be the best...

MDH33
01-25-2012, 01:22 PM
Just looking at different options for projects.
I think keeping the FJ-62 as an auto might be the best...

Chris did that swap on his old FJ62. Seemed like a nice swap. My only gripe about 62's is that I would prefer a 5 speed manual. I'm guessing it's a straight bolt in. (?)

baja1d
01-25-2012, 04:42 PM
Logged in to post a very similar question myself. I apologize for a slight hijack. H55 mated to a 4 speed transfer case? Heard that the t/c lacks an oiling cup for 5th gear and that this set up is not possible? Have you guys heard of this?

rover67
01-25-2012, 05:07 PM
The oiling cup spot is on the later t cases. IIRC 82 and beyond. My 85' 60 had it and every t case I've gotten as a spare has it.

I think the main PITA is the pedal bucket. other than that it is something you should have no trouble doing Brian. Lots of swaps on mud if you want to look there under the 60's section.

baja1d
01-25-2012, 05:26 PM
So just to clairify, an '86 4 speed transfer case shouldn't have any issues mating to a H55?

rover67
01-25-2012, 05:37 PM
So just to clairify, an '86 4 speed transfer case shouldn't have any issues mating to a H55?

nope, none at all.

easy peasy. just get a shifter, oiler cup, and a shift knob.

It all bolts in. You may have to seal one hole in the t case that doesn't get a bolt through it with the swap, you'll see it when you get there. It's a 1/8 pipe tap and plug type of thing. super easy.

PhatFJ
01-25-2012, 07:15 PM
Thanks all!! I appreciate the info..

baja1d
01-25-2012, 10:56 PM
Second that "Thank you" and again I apologize for the hijack.

powderpig
01-26-2012, 08:15 AM
Trying to remember about the 3 fe and a fly wheel. There was something a bit off with that part. But the rest is a good bolt in. I do think one needs to weld in a clutch holder bracket under the dash. I could be wrong about this. But this is a gut feeling.
The 5 speed is nice, driven a couple. Make the FJ62 more like it early cousins. But with fuel injection. i do think you may need to move the cross memeber. Again, it has been a long time since I have been around one. May need to look at your 62 next to a late fj60 to see where the cross member is.
As Marco states, the late 4 speed t-case has a spot for the oiling cup. Also you will need to plug a hole so fluid does not mix between the t-case and the tranny.

Chris
01-26-2012, 12:27 PM
Yes, as Martin mentioned I did exactly that to my '88 FJ62 and it was the best mod I ever did. It totally transformed the truck, brought vastly improved performance and throttle response that simply didn't exist previously. It is pretty much bolt-in but I have to add up-front that I paid Hugh at Safari Ltd in Grand Junction to do mine. I'm sure Hugh would be happy to rattle off exactly what's needed as he owns/owned a 62 with the 5-speed himself which IIRC is/was his wife's truck. Coupling a manual to the fuel injection is a match that deserves serious consideration.

I looked through my photos and couldn't come up with anything helpful and no longer own the truck. I did find this pic though, on my way home from CM07 I believe was when my A440F seized in Grand Junction.

Old40Dog
01-26-2012, 12:37 PM
Besides the fact that you're going from an auto to a manual? I know a guy on the BOWAGWR this past summer had issues shifting into low range, can't remember the exact reason though.

What do you have planned Brian? You're asking about SAS on a 4runner, H55 into an FJ62..., you've got me curious ;)

That was a different Brian, who had just relocated to Colorado from Louisiana on the BOWAGWR. I met him in the KS parking lot and convinced him to join us. He was taking his kids camping in South Park.

His 62 was converted to a 350 V-8 with the H-55 by an aircraft mechanic friend of his in Texas. There was an issue with the length or bend of the shifting rod on the T-Case that was preventing him from shifting into low range as a result of the V-8 conversion. He had not wheeled it since the conversion and was not aware of the low range problem.

Other than that issue, it was a very sweet 62!

rover67
01-26-2012, 12:47 PM
Trying to remember about the 3 fe and a fly wheel. There was something a bit off with that part. But the rest is a good bolt in. I do think one needs to weld in a clutch holder bracket under the dash. I could be wrong about this. But this is a gut feeling.
The 5 speed is nice, driven a couple. Make the FJ62 more like it early cousins. But with fuel injection. i do think you may need to move the cross memeber. Again, it has been a long time since I have been around one. May need to look at your 62 next to a late fj60 to see where the cross member is.
As Marco states, the late 4 speed t-case has a spot for the oiling cup. Also you will need to plug a hole so fluid does not mix between the t-case and the tranny.

And Robbie proves his prowess once again:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/29988-h55f-3f-engine.html

surffj62
01-27-2012, 10:12 AM
Bryan here... That was my truck. 3fe/H55f combo. The 4lo would not engage because the shift link was 1/2 Inch too short and I had not tested it...DOH! Anyway got the right sized one at a pic a part.
Anyway, it is nice and fuel mpg went up a tad. I'm having issues now with the clutch not fully releasing- 2nd clutch just put in. Next step I'm thinking is getting rid of master and slave and getting oem instead of aftermarket that I have now.
I'm in Erie and would be happy to let drive/ check mine out. I'm pretty sure I will be at the rs meeting Wednesday too btw

baja1d
01-28-2012, 10:48 PM
So the 5 speed that I've got is from a friends fj60. He originally got it from Spector & had it mated to his original 4 speed t/c. He kept his t/c when he did his 350 swap but I have an '86 split case that I was planning on using. Where is the "oil cup" located, in the transmission or t/c? If it's in the t/c where can I source one to put into my t/c?

surffj62
01-29-2012, 09:15 AM
The oiler is in the tranny I believe. On mud in the 60 section in the faqs or something like that in the top section there is a swap write up in if I remember correctly it had some pics of the oiler- its like a little plastic piece. If you don't have it in sure you could one from cruiser Dan at American Toyota.