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smslavin
03-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Can anyone recommend a residential solar installer?

corsair23
03-07-2012, 06:25 PM
My co-worker's son does roofs and supposedly solar but I don't anything about his experience in the solar field...

I know I hear at least one company advertising all the time on the radio...Solar City I think? Sounds intriguing in that they install the equipment for free and your "payment" is supposedly less than what you pay for electricity...

I remember solar was big here back in the 80s and then died out...Not sure what the ROI is today...

5Runner
03-08-2012, 07:09 AM
I review and issue permits for solar systems. Solar City and Namaste are pretty busy at it these days. Not that I just suggest turning to the "big names", but with solar, the industry is changing and complicated. I have seen a couple installs go very bad due to lack of experience. I can also speak well of the folks in those companies that I have worked with...seem pretty professional. Well prepared plans, passing inspections, playing nice and following the rules.

Solar is becoming pretty popular...issuing lots of permits for them these days.

Red_Chili
03-08-2012, 08:30 AM
Solar City is a great business plan.... for Solar City. For you... not so much. Not horrible... but you don't own the equipment and you lease it. Most of the time, in the near term at least, the cash flow is net zero. Down the road if rates increase you might save a bit.

CCS Solar is experienced and I know their electrician is top rate (they replaced a service for me). Good guys, and you get the benefit rather than the installing company.

With Xcel dropping the rebate amount significantly, you have to crunch the numbers harder to see if it makes sense. Kinda ticks me off. If we had solar on most rooftops, we could drill and mine a LOT LESS even with increased population. Seems shortsighted for everyone but Xcel.

farnhamstj
03-08-2012, 08:56 AM
If we had solar on most rooftops, we could drill and mine a LOT LESS even with increased population.

:thumb:

smslavin
03-08-2012, 09:12 AM
With Xcel dropping the rebate amount significantly, you have to crunch the numbers harder to see if it makes sense. Kinda ticks me off. If we had solar on most rooftops, we could drill and mine a LOT LESS even with increased population. Seems shortsighted for everyone but Xcel.

yea, i noticed the rebate drop with the little research i've been doing. here's the current rebates..

1 $1.75 4 4 4.000 0
2 $1.00 9 5 1.586 3.414
3 50 11 5 5
4 0 14 6 6

step 1 is already sold out. step 2 has a rebate of $1/watt and has 3.4 MW left in it. comes out to about 30% of the cost of the system. plus you get a 30% federal rebate. still a pretty good deal right now. step 3, not so much.

we just bought a place and this is something i've been wanting to do for a long time. besides, the software i write is all based around energy management. i should be eating my own dog food.

saw someone else with the lease program. didn't look so hot.

what about adobe solar (http://www.adobesolar.com/)?

Kipper
03-08-2012, 11:18 AM
I just got a solar system installed and used Independent Power Systems. I did a bunch of research and their lease options and the panels they used were the best (IMO).

Tell 'em I sent ya:

www.solarips.com

William Serene
Sales and System Design
Independent Power Systems
1501 Lee Hill Rd. # 24 80304
Main Office: 303.443.0115
Cell: 814.933.2064

Red_Chili
03-08-2012, 02:22 PM
Put in a rebate application ASAP if you want to make the cut. I just missed tier 1 late last year. :(

RockRunner
03-08-2012, 03:03 PM
I just got a solar system installed and used Independent Power Systems. I did a bunch of research and their lease options and the panels they used were the best (IMO).

Tell 'em I sent ya:

www.solarips.com

William Serene
Sales and System Design
Independent Power Systems
1501 Lee Hill Rd. # 24 80304
Main Office: 303.443.0115
Cell: 814.933.2064

I know you do your research well and you know your stuff so it is easy to trust your opinion. What I want to know is, did you purchase or lease? Also what was your out of pocket cost?

We need to do something soon here, adding two big freezers to the house and possibly an electric heated floor in the master bath. I am on their website now and plan on calling them, do you get a referral fee? If so I will be sure to mention your name.

smslavin
03-08-2012, 03:37 PM
I just got a solar system installed and used Independent Power Systems. I did a bunch of research and their lease options and the panels they used were the best (IMO).

Tell 'em I sent ya:

www.solarips.com

William Serene
Sales and System Design
Independent Power Systems
1501 Lee Hill Rd. # 24 80304
Main Office: 303.443.0115
Cell: 814.933.2064

Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call.

RockRunner
03-26-2012, 10:54 PM
Got a quote from ISP today for a 10K system, $100 a month $0 down. We could also buy it for about $14K and owe nothing with much more in savings. Adding a low 3% increase per year we would start saving after year 2 if we do $0 down if things stay status quo. We are planning on adding an air conditioner and a large Commercial freezer so our cost would increase per year realizing the savings sooner.

One thing I did not like about our sales personification that he called today saying we should sign soon because tier 2 is nearly out, it is not. Anyway I think we may go for it, PSC is only going to raise rates.

Smslavin did you get a quote yet? I am going to call one of the other companies listed above to see what they have to say. We may be Sun lovers in the near future.

Kipper
04-04-2012, 01:17 PM
I know you do your research well and you know your stuff so it is easy to trust your opinion. What I want to know is, did you purchase or lease? Also what was your out of pocket cost?

We need to do something soon here, adding two big freezers to the house and possibly an electric heated floor in the master bath. I am on their website now and plan on calling them, do you get a referral fee? If so I will be sure to mention your name.

Sorry, I'm just getting back around to this. We leased, 20 years. We had a $0 out of pocket cost. I do get a referral or at least they did have a program going when I signed up 5 or 6 months ago. We were really happy with them every step of the way. My project manager was awesome, he let me choose how and where all the conduit was run, had the installers do extra work to hide everything, and he even had the electricians run all the wiring for 50amp breaker into my garage for a welder since I told him the back of my service box was totally stuffed full. Really cool guys. One of the electricians is Hank Caylor, world renowned base jumper. Very interesting guy to talk to, needless to say, he like to do things 'hot'.
:beer:

Kipper
04-04-2012, 01:23 PM
PS - my system is currently producing 7400 watts :)
PSS - here's hank: http://vimeo.com/39543055

smslavin
04-04-2012, 01:23 PM
Smslavin did you get a quote yet? I am going to call one of the other companies listed above to see what they have to say. We may be Sun lovers in the near future.

Not yet. House closes in two weeks.

We leased, 20 years. We had a $0 out of pocket cost.

How does that work? What happens if you sell the house, is the lease transferable? Is the monthly payment low enough that it works out better than just buying the system?

smslavin
04-04-2012, 01:26 PM
PS - my system is currently producing 7400 watts :)
PSS - here's hank: http://vimeo.com/39543055

How much extra power are you generating?

Cool vid. Knew a few jumpers in SD. One was big into wing suits. They're at a different level.

RockRunner
04-04-2012, 10:36 PM
How does that work? What happens if you sell the house, is the lease transferable? Is the monthly payment low enough that it works out better than just buying the system?

Lease is for 20 years if you sell the lease can be transferred. Right now our payment would be nearly the same as our xcel payment but that is just for two of us. If you have kids you will save more since your usage will be more. The best thing is to buy it, saves the most money but we have to buy a new heater and A/C unit this year too so we decided to pay for that and lease the solar.

Call them when you close and see what they can build for you. We are getting a 10K system since our roof is large enough and covered by the sun all day. Your system may be smaller depending on your home and location to the sun. You can not get a bigger one since that is the largest they will install.

RockRunner
04-04-2012, 10:38 PM
Kipper PM me your info so I can pass it along to the guy.