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OilHammer
06-15-2012, 02:57 PM
I was over at Robbie's shop at lunch and turned left on my way out. I noticed that Boulder Toyota had an FR-S parked out front, so I swung around and asked to drive it.

Summary: Neat neat neat little car. As far as an affordable sports car with lots of potential, it will be hard to beat these things. Think about what the first generation miata did to the car scene and that's exactly where this car hits, but in a coupe version.

Like the miata, it's underpowered with zero torque, but it completely makes up for that with exceptional handling. The steering, brakes, shifter, everything feels very well balanced. Maybe the gas pedal could be a tick higher for better toe heel, but I wasn't threshold braking to spare the salesman! That and the poor car only has 100 miles on it, I had to go easy on at least one part.

Ergonomics are spot on. The steering wheel placement and just about everything else are where they should be, and even fit a big bloke like myself. I think my only complaint, and I hesitate to call it a complaint, is that the side bolsters are a bit much. Awesome for cornering, but I can see a long drive becoming uncomfortable for wide body adults.

This car listed at $24k. Considering I paid that for my Prelude back in 98, that is outstanding.
I'm calling it right now. This is going to be one of the hottest cars in 2013.

corsair23
06-15-2012, 03:17 PM
Saw one at Ben's place last week and it was :cool:

Sort of reminded me of a minature version of the Lexus LFA or whatever it is called...

coloradobound
06-15-2012, 03:56 PM
And its a Subaru boxer engine with Toyota fuel injection. With Subaru for the engine, hoping they bring out a turbo version.

nakman
06-17-2012, 11:22 PM
Huh. shows what I know, I had to do a Google search...

http://www.scion.com/images/cars/frs/color/frs_ultramarine_04.jpg

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Sweet car! and just about perfect, when they're getting to be 10 years old I'll know a 16yo that would probably dig that. uh oh..

OilHammer
06-18-2012, 09:47 AM
No doubt that Subaru will release a turbo for it in a year or two. There is a frenzy on these things at the moment....all of them except the red one I found at Boulder have been pre-sold. I feel lucky I even got to drive one.

Typical dealers too, they really know nothing about the cars. The drone at Subaru told me the two cars were exactly the same. Nope... different lights, different seats, seat heaters, different body options, and so on. Mostly cosmetic, with the exception of the headlights, which are much nicer in the Scooby, but I understand they can be swapped over.

I'm sure there is already a dedicated forum to these things, but if not, somebody go start one now! It's going to be huge.

nakman
06-18-2012, 10:02 AM
So what Subaru is this similar to then?

OilHammer
06-18-2012, 11:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP3SR1m_aRY

wesintl
06-18-2012, 11:48 AM
are these as cool as a gold '92 sc400 :confused:

OilHammer
06-18-2012, 12:16 PM
Dunno, but probably not. Here's the thing Wes, I love all cars, and I used to be a big sportscar nut. I just think they are interesting cars, and remind me a lot of what the miata first was: An enthusiast car that was affordable. That's rare.

wesintl
06-18-2012, 12:33 PM
I'm just giving you a hard time... Looks like a cool new ricer. The concept pics looked way cooler than the production car as usual. they do kinds look like mini IS F's

60wag
06-18-2012, 01:32 PM
I think it looks a lot like a Mazda RX8

Hulk
06-18-2012, 06:44 PM
In Japan, it's called the Toyota GT 86 (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1069898_toyota-gt-86-scion-fr-s-makes-debut-2011-tokyo-motor-show). Here's a story about the aero kit (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1077020_toyota-gt-86-aero-kit-previews-upgrades-for-2013-scion-fr-s) for the GT 86 that may make its way stateside in 2013.

OilHammer
06-19-2012, 11:46 AM
Saw this in the stealership yesterday. $350k ouch...hmmm....car or house....hmmm....I asked the sales drone about driving it, and he said the windshield was $16k. I think a rock chip would be an expensive test ride. :beer:

simps80
06-19-2012, 02:49 PM
In Japan, it's called the Toyota GT 86 (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1069898_toyota-gt-86-scion-fr-s-makes-debut-2011-tokyo-motor-show). Here's a story about the aero kit (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1077020_toyota-gt-86-aero-kit-previews-upgrades-for-2013-scion-fr-s) for the GT 86 that may make its way stateside in 2013.

is it crazy that I'd be more interested in a Toyota GT 86 than a Scion FR S even knowing they are identical ???

i think there's something wrong with that....

btw they are running commercials for that now I saw it for the first time last night

wesintl
06-19-2012, 04:37 PM
The BRZ is the competition. First rear wheel subi, no turbo boxter

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/brz/index.html

OilHammer
06-19-2012, 04:50 PM
And the BR-Z looks better anyway. Better headlights, seats, seat warmers, etc....kind of a no brainer for colorado. Who wants to put money on a turbo option next year? From the sound of it, TRD will offer one sooner rather than later. Ever ridden in a Flying Miata turbo? Holy.... http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4522&parentid=0&stocknumber=22-13150%20%20BLK%20GAUGE

I rode in one back in Atlanta...it was fast, very fast, guy couldn't shift fast enough fast. I'm not sure exactly which kit he had, but a transformed a "fun" car into a Porsche surpriser.

Fishy
06-19-2012, 06:40 PM
Had to grab some parts from Stevenson West today and seen this sitting outside the service/parts door. Sharp looking car. Looks like a Maserati..... but smaller, less expensive and not as fast.;)

Beater
06-19-2012, 09:08 PM
meh - there is no substitute.

OilHammer
06-20-2012, 02:29 PM
http://blog.caranddriver.com/turbo-version-of-subaru-brzs-fa-series-engine-debuts-in-japanese-legacy-will-power-next-wrx/

Ahh...basically the same engine, but with huge gains.