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bigcity25
12-19-2012, 06:39 AM
Looking for 1 stock steel wheel for a fj40, one with the clips for a oem hubcap. Need to replace the wagon wheel on my spare.

treerootCO
12-19-2012, 07:54 AM
I have a stack of OEM steel rims. All are riveted and will not fit disc brakes. If you have drums all the way around, let me know.

bigcity25
12-19-2012, 08:33 AM
Drums in the rear and disc up front. But I have a spacer up front that allows for the disc brakes.

bigcity25
12-26-2012, 12:09 PM
Mike did you change your number? It's not working for me.

cbmontgo
12-26-2012, 04:15 PM
I've got 4; they supposedly came off a '79 but I never checked. Need some TLC but are okay. PM me if you are interested. I don't want to split up the set though.

bigcity25
12-27-2012, 11:35 AM
Well looks like I won't be needing a extra wheel after all. Discount was in the process of installing my new tires and the first thing they said was "there's a spacer". Their minimum turns on a lug is 10. My fronts are at a 4, so guess who's gonna get new wheels also. The spacer that the "Landcruiser experts" installed is already showing signs or wear and a small crack. So I can roll the dice, keep my tires and hope nothing bad happens. Or I can spend a couple hundred and get some black wheels and have avoid a catastrophic failure of my front end. I hate losing my oem hubcaps.

subzali
12-27-2012, 11:49 AM
Get cbmontgo's wheels - you won't need a spacer with those and you'll keep your hubcaps.

bigcity25
12-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Is it disc brakes in general or the man a fre brakes I have? This is straight from man-a-fre's website "*Please note that our disc brake conversion kits may not be used with factory wheels.*" But the kit is for a 40 with drum brakes originally up front so not sure if that makes a difference. How can you tell the difference between the wheels as far as can or cannot work? And I'll still need a 5th for the spare.

baja1d
12-27-2012, 03:20 PM
A couple of years ago I found a company (through Mud) that sold "deep lugs". I just came across the box & will post up the company name tomorrow when I get home. I'm pretty sure that i was having the same issue & this was my solution.

baja1d
12-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Try this tread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/tire-wheel-tech/624211-where-can-i-find-deeper-lug-studs.html

nuclearlemon
12-27-2012, 03:33 PM
not sure how the maf disc setup works, but the only major difference between drum and disc rims is the disc rims are welded. drums are riveted and the rivets hit the calipers. some have had luck clearancing the caliper.

might find someone close to you who has discs (not sure where you are, i'm on n. side of denver and have disc rims on the pig we could pull) and try on your rig

bigcity25
12-27-2012, 04:14 PM
From what it looks like on my rig specifically the sized of that caliper hits the wheel. And doesn't allow things to sit flush. I am gonna head back on Saturday after I get off shift at the firehouse and test fit a 15' aluminum wheel. The manager thinks the geometry of the aluminum wheel will clear the caliper and allow me to use the 33/10.50.r15 tires. If that doesn't work then it's a 16' wheel and a whole different ballgame for tire prices. There's always real spacers from somebody but then my width of my stance is increased and then I gotta think about fender flares and who knows what. I have heard any spacer over time is problematic on lugs but not sure how true that is, who would of thought the for sale section would turn into the tech section. :D

BTW: Can you see rivets on the wheel itself without pulling the tire off?

nuclearlemon
12-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Yes, on the backside. Or post a good close shot.of hour rim, i can tell from the bubble

subzali
12-27-2012, 05:46 PM
Travis, I could stop by sometime with my spare wagon wheel off my FJ40 and have you try it out and see if it clears.

nuclearlemon
12-27-2012, 06:04 PM
If you're interested, im selling some anson style alum rims

baja1d
12-27-2012, 07:07 PM
Travis, I could stop by sometime with my spare wagon wheel off my FJ40 and have you try it out and see if it clears.

Thanks Matt but I've got my issues worked out-aluminum wheels. I think Jeff is trying to keep his stock split rim and use it with disc brakes. It sounds like his use of 1/4" wheel spacers is eating up his stud length and not allowing the recommended 10 turns on his lug nuts. New wheel spacers with longer studs maybe a possible solution?

bigcity25
12-27-2012, 08:00 PM
Here's some shots I can try to take the wheel off tomorrow. Not sure if these are clear enough. But bottom line is I love the brakes up from front and my 40 is my DD so if I have to bite the bullet and upgrade then so be it. But losing the hubcaps is a downer but not the end of the world. I pm'ed a mudder that has the same brakes. They have a aftermarket wheel that's a 15'. They said have at least a 3.5 worth of back space. To make it work with those brakes. So I am gonna do some more research tomorrow and this weekend and keep you cats posted.

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rover67
12-27-2012, 08:23 PM
why not just grind the rivets down and weld the things on?

subzali
12-27-2012, 08:46 PM
Thanks Matt but I've got my issues worked out-aluminum wheels. I think Jeff is trying to keep his stock split rim and use it with disc brakes. It sounds like his use of 1/4" wheel spacers is eating up his stud length and not allowing the recommended 10 turns on his lug nuts. New wheel spacers with longer studs maybe a possible solution?

Sorry Travis, I thought it was you having problems because I got confused with your guys' screen names...:o

baja1d
12-27-2012, 09:57 PM
why not just grind the rivets down and weld the things on?

I like that idea but then again I seem to weld everything these days.

baja1d
12-28-2012, 07:35 AM
Re-listed today: http://forum.ih8mud.com/tires-wheels/617926-disk-brake-40-wheels-225-ri.html

nuclearlemon
12-28-2012, 08:39 AM
Here's some shots I can try to take the wheel off tomorrow. Not sure if these are clear enough. But bottom line is I love the brakes up from front and my 40 is my DD so if I have to bite the bullet and upgrade then so be it. But losing the hubcaps is a downer but not the end of the world. I pm'ed a mudder that has the same brakes. They have a aftermarket wheel that's a 15'. They said have at least a 3.5 worth of back space. To make it work with those brakes. So I am gonna do some more research tomorrow and this weekend and keep you cats posted.

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hard to tell from the blurry pic, but they look drum. the bulge i look at is between the dominant bulge and the rim itself and it looks rounded like drums. where the center section hits the outer rim on the backside is where the rivets will be. iirc, the oem backspacing was 3.5, but that goes out the window with alum rims since they are produced differently and are often wider in the wrong areas.

bigcity25
12-28-2012, 08:52 AM
I tried to call man a fre for a ruling on their disclaimer. And they're closed until next week. I also threw out a thread on mud to see if anyone has the same setup I do. I'll try to pull my wheel off today and get some pics. Thanks for all the advice. I am trying to keep this short and not complex.

nuclearlemon
12-28-2012, 06:27 PM
still welcome to swing by and try the rims i've got. i have oem disc, oem drum and the ansons available (and split rim if you wanna go that way;) )

bigcity25
12-28-2012, 08:12 PM
Yeah I can look at it, won't hurt pm me your number and we'll meet up.

treerootCO
12-29-2012, 07:46 AM
Mike did you change your number? It's not working for me.


my number is still the same. Seven2oh6free5mine1mine8

bigcity25
01-10-2013, 05:50 PM
Got my new wheels and tires, it's all snug but no clearance issues. So what type of oem wheels dd I have?

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It looks bad in the pic but none of the steering hits the wheel or tire.

nuclearlemon
01-10-2013, 08:32 PM
disc

bigcity25
01-10-2013, 10:43 PM
Thanks for the help on my old wheels. Now do I sell them separate from the tires or keep them together?

cruiseroutfit
01-11-2013, 01:32 AM
...It looks bad in the pic but none of the steering hits the wheel or tire.

It might when you get new boots on those TRE's :D

bigcity25
01-11-2013, 12:32 PM
I know I am not the only guy who had those man a fre brakes. But kind of a pain, the wheel weights make it close to the boots.