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loudbay
01-25-2013, 03:10 PM
Here's some daytime pics, I'm going outside now to rip out the interior and hunt for rust. I bought some roll on hammered rustoleum for inside the bed, but it may be too cold for it to set up.

What are the bolts on the side of the top for? They're on both sides... I would say it's previous owner tomfoolery, but I'm not sure...

Where should the licensce plate wires wire into the harness? They're just dangling...

What stockish steel wheels are people running? I have a set of 32x11.5x15s and a set of 275/70/16s, both BFG ATs, both pretty nice and newish... Either should fit on the 60, so on the 40 it will come down to proper looking wheels I think... 15s or 16s won't really matter to me.

More questions as I go through it.

We did find one of the rearmost rear spring hanger is not so safe looking, so Euroford and I will be tackling that sooner than later, we'll probably try to get a better shackle angle while we're at it. Tim is going to be a BIG help with this project, and many thanks to him!

Cheers,
M.

corsair23
01-25-2013, 03:22 PM
What are the bolts on the side of the top for? They're on both sides... I would say it's previous owner tomfoolery, but I'm not sure...

PO tomfoolery...maybe they had some spare gas can holders or something bolted to the top?

Where should the licensce plate wires wire into the harness? They're just dangling...

As I recall they go in through a grommet in the rear door and connect to wiring on the inside PS rear wheel well area...

loudbay
01-25-2013, 03:25 PM
[QUOTE=corsair23;225578]PO tomfoolery...maybe they had some spare gas can holders or something bolted to the top?

That's just sad... I was really really hoping for something more exciting than that.

loudbay
01-25-2013, 03:26 PM
Anyone have a good place they go for stainless metric hardware? McGuckins?

Edit: Oh yeah, hardware is going to cost me a small fortune... It's all either missing or ****ty.

Jacket
01-25-2013, 04:04 PM
Nice 40.

For fasteners - McGuckins, Ace, or Jax in a pinch, but you won't get JIS. Your best bet is AAA metric in Denver - get a large bag if M6, M8 and M10 bolts and nuts in an assortment of lengths.

loudbay
01-25-2013, 04:08 PM
I'm in no rush, I can wait for the harvesting and counting before rushing out for bolts The only terribad rust spot on the body seems to be at the rear sill. And some previous bad welding turned rust on the passenger sil. Lots of places that are 'not too bad'.

Thanks Matt!

Cheers,
Matt

SteveH
01-25-2013, 04:51 PM
You can (or could) buy small assortments of JIS fasteners for about $10 at O'Reillys, as of a couple years ago. They were in a plastic organizer about 7"x10" and included various sizes.

This would be expensive if you had many to replace, but maybe for high visibility places you could use these shiny fasteners.

loudbay
01-25-2013, 05:47 PM
Looks like O'Reillys still has the JIS fasteners, but not in stainless... Anything going for JIS other than originality? For a buck a bolt, I think I'm going stainless.

loudbay
01-25-2013, 05:53 PM
This is about an hour worth of work in the tub with the wire wheel. Black spray paint coming right off. Looks like the rear sill has been replaced once before, and is going to need to be worked on again. Other than that, no terrible surprises so far. The passenger mid body mount looks like it will need work, so maybe that entire strip will get replaced. I'm starting to grind into some sort of white plasticky smelling body filler there. Any idea what it is? Sorry for the poor phone pics, it's just so darn convenient.

Tomorrow: pull the seats and the cage, the rear heater and wire wheel the rest. Then brush on the hammered rustoleum (hopefully warm enough), install the carpet kit that came with it, and see what is involved putting in the bestop front seat I have. Sunday, junkyard hunting for a samurai/tracker rear bench.

Thanks for all the knowledge sharing.

Cheers,
m.

MDH33
01-25-2013, 05:55 PM
The only terribad rust spot on the body seems to be at the rear sill.


What rear sill?? :eek:

Lol! just kidding. looks like a nice 40!

Nice to see some new 40's in the club. Hopefully we can all get another 40's Only Run together this summer. :thumb:

loudbay
01-25-2013, 06:11 PM
I'm excited to wheel the dang thing! I wouldn't go so far as to call it 'nice'... Decent, pretty awesome, cool. All those work, but some of the 40s I've seen in the club are NICE.

loudbay
01-25-2013, 10:52 PM
It's crazy that the black spray in the tub paint comes right off and the original mustard paint doesn't even scratch with the wire wheel.

kurtnkegger
01-26-2013, 06:49 AM
It's crazy that the black spray in the tub paint comes right off and the original mustard paint doesn't even scratch with the wire wheel.

He says after a 5 hour dance with the wire wheel...:D

Jacket
01-26-2013, 08:14 AM
Looks like O'Reillys still has the JIS fasteners, but not in stainless... Anything going for JIS other than originality? For a buck a bolt, I think I'm going stainless.

Head size is the biggest reason. M8's have a 12mm head (instead of 13) and M10's have a 14mm head (instead of 15).

I don't know if you can get stainless at AAA metric for the JIS hardware. Last time I checked their inventory was all zinc-plated. But Ace and Jax have a small supply of standard metric stainless IIRC.

loudbay
01-27-2013, 09:10 AM
Brush on Hammered Rustoleum in black; dries dark grey, but looks good! Just have to pull the cage and cut some rusty bolts on the jump seat and the gas tank cover, and I'll do the rest.

loudbay
01-27-2013, 07:34 PM
Got a Suzuki rear bench or the kids. $30, exponentially safer.

spectre6000
01-27-2013, 09:00 PM
You've got some filler in the DS rear quarter where the spare swing should be. Probably worth a magnet hunt to see what else might be going on.

The holes are for gas can carriers. I have a set on my PS tub side behind the fuel filler.

I have a big coffee can of JIS hardware off a red 60 if you need something. ;)

rover67
01-27-2013, 09:35 PM
nice rig!

Theres that dude on 'mud that puts together bolt kits you could talk to.

Otherwise I'd take spectre6000 up on the offer to provide a few bolts from the 60 strip down. I have been putting my 40 together and taking it apart lately and am drawing from a big tub of bolts from a 60 that was stripped. Been super handy. if you have some in particular you are looking for and are closer to me than him you could come scavenge. I'll be sending a ton off to be replated over in broomfield soon too.

euroford
01-27-2013, 11:03 PM
that thing really is nice man! congrats and thanks for letting me take it for a spin around the hood!

loudbay
01-27-2013, 11:32 PM
Alright Spectre, I'll bring up the tranny and transfer parts from Tim's house and grab that hardware. Basically 100% is missing, rusted, or broken off in the threads. Two birds, one stone. Be sure to pull any you for sure need. I'm not reassembling until next weekend probably, so plenty of time to work it out... Still have to cut out some stuck bolts and paint some more. You come down the mountain to work right? What side of town? I think I'm going to need body mounts too, one spins. The one I want to use to mount the rear bench, otherwise I'd ignore it until welding up the areas of rot in the floor....

Euro, you can drive it anytime your heep isn't running brother! Convenient offer now that you're back on the road, lol.

Thanks Rover67. Good to see another LR convert. I'll hit you up if I need to.

Jerrycans on both sides? Maybe in Africa.

Cheers,
Matt

subzali
01-29-2013, 09:53 PM
Matt, you'll probably need to get that body mount bolt from Toyota. It's a specialty bolt.

For your wheel question, I would say to get some 15x8 white wagon wheels - pretty common (see many pictures of mine in the link in my sig line) and allow you to run wider tires than the stock 15x5.5s. If you want to go to 16s you'll just have to find one out there that has the right backspacing and is the style you want. The only stock option is a split rim from Oz. I don't think I've ever seen a wagon wheel in a 16" size - might have to do some googling...

loudbay
01-29-2013, 10:35 PM
Thanks for the insight Matt.

I found some non USA FJ60 16s. $190 each after club discount from Boulder Toyota, needless to say, I'm exploring other options. I have a newish set of 275/70/16s I wanted to put on, but maybe I'll try to trade them or sell them. Or maybe I'll run spacers and tacoma wheels. Or maybe... I'm also going to redo all the body mounts this weekend, then reassemble, and drive it. I'll 'fix' the floorpan issues after the newness wears off. I'm already regretting not driving it around.

Cheers,
M.

AHorseThief
01-30-2013, 05:20 PM
With where your exhaust is dumping, I'd check your steel right above there when you get some free time. My exhaust is set up the same way and I have convenient ground viewports through the body in that spot.

loudbay
01-30-2013, 09:35 PM
^ thank you. It is kind of crappy there...