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Evrgrnmtnman
03-30-2013, 04:27 PM
For about a month now, my shifter keeps popping out of first gear. Now, its to a point where I have to hold the shifter in first gear with my hand till the truck starts moving for it to stay in first gear. All the other gears work fine. I did replace the shifter seat and bushing but that didn't help. Any thoughts....88 Toyota Pickup W56 5spd..

L43dean
03-30-2013, 06:46 PM
Bugger, I had the same trouble with my L52 H.D. Turned out to be worn shifter forks. Try Marlin Crawler. Maybe you can replace the forks on your W-series without a complete tear down. Good luck!

Evrgrnmtnman
03-30-2013, 08:15 PM
Thanks.........Joe at CTS said maybe the same thing. Hope its a easy fix.

spectre6000
03-31-2013, 07:23 PM
Typically that's a worn synchro, though it will also happen if you chip a gear tooth too badly. Tranny rebuild or new tranny.

Evrgrnmtnman
03-31-2013, 07:27 PM
Typically that's a worn synchro, though it will also happen if you chip a gear tooth too badly. Tranny rebuild or new tranny.

Thanks, I just spent $1,625.00 on the rebuild 40k ago.......

spectre6000
04-01-2013, 03:11 PM
Who rebuilt it, and what are they calling a rebuild? I don't know how it works in the Toyota world around here, but I've seen VW "rebuilds" that were nothing more than a power wash and some new gaskets. Not saying that's what happened, but the two theories posited within the context of a recent rebuild both point to worn parts being reused that shouldn't have been. The last time I saw a tranny do that (in a '60 bug) it was a chipped 3rd gear from a bad downshift. The three or four times before that (all bugs and one bus from '60 to '78) were worn first gear synchros. Different makes and models, but trannies is trannies.

Evrgrnmtnman
04-01-2013, 05:21 PM
Who rebuilt it, and what are they calling a rebuild? I don't know how it works in the Toyota world around here, but I've seen VW "rebuilds" that were nothing more than a power wash and some new gaskets. Not saying that's what happened, but the two theories posited within the context of a recent rebuild both point to worn parts being reused that shouldn't have been. The last time I saw a tranny do that (in a '60 bug) it was a chipped 3rd gear from a bad downshift. The three or four times before that (all bugs and one bus from '60 to '78) were worn first gear synchros. Different makes and models, but trannies is trannies.

Joe at CTS rebuilt it, using OEM parts....He came recommended.....

DaveInDenver
04-01-2013, 05:25 PM
Joe didn't half ass it and he's probably right.

But also make sure your motor and rear transmission mounts are still sound.

AxleIke
04-01-2013, 06:37 PM
But also make sure your motor and rear transmission mounts are still sound.

Definitely check this. It seems like it'd be obvious, but it isn't, and certainly a possibility since you had a rebuild done, and likely done right. I've heard of this being an issue numerous times on the interwebs, and its a reasonably cheap fix.

Evrgrnmtnman
04-01-2013, 06:45 PM
Cool, I take a look at the mounts

rover67
04-01-2013, 07:54 PM
I'd also be thinking forks after you check that the whole assembly isn't moving around enough to knock itself out of gear.

Evrgrnmtnman
04-05-2013, 07:51 PM
Follow up! Well, this is my own opinion.. I took my truck to CST to see Joe. He drove the truck around with me tagging along. He couldn't tell by driving it what the problem was, and said he would have to drop the transmission and take it apart to see what the problem was. At a "BARGAIN" price of $350.00 just to look at it! A tranny with 40K that I paid CST $1,625.00 to be rebuilt.
I'm sorry, but I would have been ashamed to ask someone for more money that was recommended to me, and part of a 4x4 club. I'll leave it each person to make their on conclusion on whether or not this is good customer service. I'm disappointed myself and won't be returning to CST!

Sleepy
04-06-2013, 08:21 AM
Unfortunately, it doesn't help you this time, but I'd check to Jesse at ATLR (on our vendor list) to see if he does the type of work that I need performed before checking anywhere else. I have found that he is reasonable and stands behind his work with fantastic customer service.

YMMV, but I've had him work on two different toys and with some fairly deep work (new engine and tranny case work).

Evrgrnmtnman
04-06-2013, 11:51 AM
Unfortunately, it doesn't help you this time, but I'd check to Jesse at ATLR (on our vendor list) to see if he does the type of work that I need performed before checking anywhere else. I have found that he is reasonable and stands behind his work with fantastic customer service.

YMMV, but I've had him work on two different toys and with some fairly deep work (new engine and tranny case work).

Jesse, does all my work on my truck. At the time he wasn't doing tranny rebuilds or I would have gone to him. If I end up swapping a used tranny into it, Jesse will do it........