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PabloCruise
04-01-2013, 01:22 PM
Hoping this topic does not result in a Classifieds posting...

I am trying to take apart the fairlead assembly on my PTO winch, and the lower horizontal roller is seized on the long bolt that it rides on. This is also the bolt that connects the two brackets that mount the upright rollers.

The top roller slid right off its bolt, although there was evidence of corrosion at the ends of the bolt where moisture crept in. I did not see any evidence of an anti-seize product in place, so I am not surprised I am having this problem.

I really want to get this taken apart and cleaned up so the lower roller can spin freely on the bolt, as it is supposed to, vs. spinning the bolt and wearing the bolt down where it passes through the brackets.

So far I have tried to get some PB Blaster to penetrate in between the roller and the bolt. When I ran out of the PB, I switched to WD40. I have tried to get some form of penetrating oil on both ends of the roller.

We have some -80 C freezers at work. I threw the piece in there a couple of times for about an hour and then when I took it out I warmed the roller with the plumber torch. Still no dice, just a broken punch thus far.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance for any helpful ideas you may have!

L43dean
04-01-2013, 02:14 PM
I use "Aero Kroil". Crash turned me on to it. I used it with success on my 1968 Ramsey/dealer installed, cast iron, all four rollers rusted shut fairlead. It is an industrial product that is not available for retail sale. I just bought a case and will sell you a can for my cost. The stuff works better than any other penetrating oil that I have used. www.kanolabs.com

DaveInDenver
04-01-2013, 02:20 PM
Aerokroil is available by the can at the Orchards Ace, the one next to King Soopers off 287 in north Loveland. It's in the aisle with firearm solvents and lubes. I have a fresh can if you want to borrow it TJ (or just swing by if you want). Not sure what it goes for from Dean's case, it might be cheaper because they get about $20 for the 13 ounce can of it at the Ace.

PabloCruise
04-01-2013, 03:12 PM
You guys are the best - thank you.
I am planning on attending the RS meeting Weds. Will either of you be there?
I am going to look up the product - is it a penetrant? How is it used?
Thanks

L43dean
04-01-2013, 03:53 PM
You guys are the best - thank you.
I am planning on attending the RS meeting Weds. Will either of you be there?
I am going to look up the product - is it a penetrant? How is it used?
Thanks

I will be there. It is an aerosol penetrant. I believe you can obtain gallon cans. I will bring a few of the 16.5 oz. cans to the lodge meeting. $15.00 each to cover my cost including shipping.

rover67
04-01-2013, 04:01 PM
I want some!!!!

My can finally ran empty.

that is of course if you can spare one more... otherwise i'll order some online or go to the store Dave referenced.

PabloCruise
04-01-2013, 04:01 PM
Thanks Dean, sounds good.
I hope the combo of PB Blaster/WD40/Tri-Flow that I already used will not impede the ability of the Aerokroil...

L43dean
04-01-2013, 04:05 PM
I want some!!!!

My can finally ran empty.

that is of course if you can spare one more... otherwise i'll order some online or go to the store Dave referenced.

You got it Marco! I'll bring several cans.

DaveInDenver
04-01-2013, 04:07 PM
$15 is a steal. One pays for convenience and the penalty for slack is apparently $2 per ounce. :-)

There is no comparison to WD40 or PB Blaster. Plus it's a pleasant pink.

L43dean
04-01-2013, 04:13 PM
Thanks Dean, sounds good.
I hope the combo of PB Blaster/WD40/Tri-Flow that I already used will not impede the ability of the Aerokroil...

I guess I should bring the MSDS. Who's got my torch? Some one hold my :beer:

PabloCruise
04-01-2013, 04:21 PM
Ooh, a torch.
Maybe I should bring the piece and we can torch things after the recovery sessions.
Also, in keeping with my compulsion to post pics of everything...
Pic 1 is assembly, pic 2 shows bolt surrounded by roller, pic 3 is how things are supposed to look by now.

L43dean
04-01-2013, 04:36 PM
Got it. A few years back in Trails, Mark Whatley recommended a mix of equal parts ATF, Mineral Spirits, Acetone and Kerosene. I use it to soak parts in a covered container. It works well. Mark said he learned it from person at Ruger.

PabloCruise
04-01-2013, 04:42 PM
Ed's Red?
Does it work better than the Aerokroil?

L43dean
04-01-2013, 04:55 PM
Ed's Red?
Does it work better than the Aerokroil?

I believe Aero Kroil works better.

PabloCruise
04-01-2013, 04:57 PM
I believe Aero Kroil works better.

Thanks for hooking me up, see you Weds at the meeting!

PabloCruise
04-08-2013, 01:22 PM
I am sure the Aero Kroil helped, but in the end, it was the press that prevailed.
We chucked it up in the press with a 19mm socket to keep the fairlead end plate from deforming. It squeaked and then immediately gave way with very little pressure. But once the bolt pressed flush with the roller, it was stuck again. So out came the punch again. That was fine until the punch slipped and boogered the top two threads... :sigh:
Fix one thing, break another. Seems to be how I am rolling these days...