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FJCDan
04-04-2013, 07:18 PM
I am looking for input on a 4runner that Travis aka baja1d found on craigs list . It is a 90 4runner tha needs a 22re engine and 5 speed tranny. also needs wiring harness, exhast and who knows what else. The truck has a 4" lift and 33's. He want's $500.00 for it. Is this a project that might be too much or maybe a good deal. Does anyone here in the club have a engine and tranny laying around that would work for this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We are thinking about this for our 17 year old Grand daughter who likes to come out on our runs.

J Kimmel
04-04-2013, 07:30 PM
you can usually find something similar with a blown engine that all it needs is a rebuild. Sounds like a decent sized project, if you aren't in the mood I'd wait

baja1d
04-04-2013, 09:17 PM
I'll keep an eye out but I'd suggest looking into an imported engine. My Dad has done this a few times. Apparently, all cars in Japan MUST have their engines replaced before 30k. Those that are removed are usually imported to the US & can be had for significantly less than a fresh engine. I believe they also come with a guarantee.

baja1d
04-04-2013, 09:20 PM
http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/3720902771.html

Here's another:

http://boulder.craigslist.org/pts/3699349925.html

baja1d
04-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Scratch my two other posts... Just drop it off @ Jeremy's!

J Kimmel
04-04-2013, 09:34 PM
negative my hands are FULL

baja1d
04-04-2013, 10:08 PM
negative my hands are FULL

I hear that!

FJCDan
04-05-2013, 08:43 AM
Thanks Travis and Jeremy, I think we might scratch this idea. Wish I had the money for it . I would buy it for the lift alone he has 2K in that.

L43dean
04-05-2013, 12:25 PM
I am looking for input on a 4runner that Travis aka baja1d found on craigs list . It is a 90 4runner tha needs a 22re engine and 5 speed tranny. also needs wiring harness, exhast and who knows what else. The truck has a 4" lift and 33's. He want's $500.00 for it. Is this a project that might be too much or maybe a good deal. Does anyone here in the club have a engine and tranny laying around that would work for this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We are thinking about this for our 17 year old Grand daughter who likes to come out on our runs.

I would pass on that rig and buy something that runs, in order to maintain the energy and enthusiasm of the young adult. Looking for, then rebuilding, installing, then working out the bugs/emissions of a drivetrain might be too much in spring when your 17. This is just my opinion of course.

Sleepy
04-05-2013, 04:02 PM
Personally, if it doesn't have a straight axle, then I'd not do it. I have a 92 and have made a swap. I upgraded the old IFS with 33" tires and then started snapping the weak IFS parts.

That's just my opinion, born through pain :)

Barry

AxleIke
04-05-2013, 10:20 PM
With the 4 cyl he'd be okay. I ran 35's on my 87 with dual cases, ARB's F/R, and never broke. Bent the steering once, but that was upgraded.

I'd stay away based on the lift. Very few 4" lifts are worth anything, most are total garbage.

That, and just buy something that runs. You'll thank yourself in the end.

DaveInDenver
04-06-2013, 05:43 AM
That, and just buy something that runs. You'll thank yourself in the end.
Word.

I haven't wheeled IFS nearly as hard as Isaac but my $0.02 is that with a couple of critical upgrades (truss and idler) IFS is just fine for 33" tires. Slow & steady (I had 4.7 t-case gears when I was wheeling mine hardest) and, mainly, keep the wheels on the dirt and when you do lift a front tire don't go Ironman with the gas.

Sleepy
04-06-2013, 07:11 AM
I sure would not argue with low and slow (it's my current build on the same truck). Everytime I broke something I was trying to climb something crazy (like fireman's hill) and a bounce or two - POP! I did not have dual cases or a 4.7 at the time either.

However, it does depend on your plans. I LOVED my IFS on fire roads :eek: In fact, I ran 31's and a swaybar disconnect for years and went places I had no right to make it into. If it had the Total Chaos long travel kit I might reconsider since it uses T100 stock axles on the IFS.

Then again, if you are going with dual cases, then you are talking about new drive shafts. If you are talking new drive shafts, you may as well drop that carrier bearing out of the plan. If you are going to turn larger tires, probably some gears and lockers would be nice. Now that you have done all that work, don't you wish you'd have started with a straight axle with some longfields? :)

Barry

FJCDan
04-07-2013, 09:20 AM
Passed on truck, we are going to keep looking for something that runs. Thanks for the input from everyone.

MountainGoat
04-07-2013, 09:10 PM
Dan, I saw a 1985 Hilux (mini truck) for sale in Conifer today. Body is rough, but it's a solid axle rig with a 22RE (fuel injection). The sign on it said they wanted $1,000 and that it runs. Standard cab, rusty bed and worn out paint. It could make a helluva little wheeler!

Let me now if you want me to look a little closer or get you the phone number off of it. :D

FJCDan
04-08-2013, 08:32 AM
Dan, I saw a 1985 Hilux (mini truck) for sale in Conifer today. Body is rough, but it's a solid axle rig with a 22RE (fuel injection). The sign on it said they wanted $1,000 and that it runs. Standard cab, rusty bed and worn out paint. It could make a helluva little wheeler!

Let me now if you want me to look a little closer or get you the phone number off of it. :D

Thanks Dan, I think we are looking towards SUV since they have a large family.

baja1d
04-09-2013, 09:10 AM
22RE: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/engines-trannys-t-cases-sale/1237066-1993-22re-complete-engine-sale.html

Shark Bait
04-09-2013, 09:40 AM
Could you put the V6 in this thing? And I'd be tempted to go to a milder lift or back to stock, even.

Shark Bait
04-09-2013, 08:45 PM
I'm actually seriously considering this now. Put a 5vz-fe with a 5-speed tranny. How much work wold that be?

coloradobound
04-09-2013, 09:09 PM
I'm actually seriously considering this now. Put a 5vz-fe with a 5-speed tranny. How much work wold that be?

Here's some info.

http://www.yotatech.com/f160/

baja1d
04-09-2013, 09:53 PM
I'm actually seriously considering this now. Put a 5vz-fe with a 5-speed tranny. How much work wold that be?

A chevy is the same amount of work but 1/3 the cost for both install & future repairs.... Just saying

Shark Bait
04-09-2013, 10:04 PM
I suppose the simple route would be to put in a 22RE. What's the mpg difference?

baja1d
04-09-2013, 11:02 PM
I suppose the simple route would be to put in a 22RE. What's the mpg difference?

Yep. Not sure on mpg but it is a toy

DaveInDenver
04-10-2013, 06:27 AM
I'm actually seriously considering this now. Put a 5vz-fe with a 5-speed tranny. How much work wold that be?
If you mean doing that to the $500 4Runner with the 22R-E and W56, it would not be easier than any other engine swap. The two easiest swaps for the 22R-E are the 3RZ-FE with the bellhousing Marlin has (or had at least) or the L series diesels. Next easiest would be the ones Advance makes adapters for, the small block Chevy V8 or Vortec 4.3L. If the truck already has a 3.0L V6, then the 5VZ-FE is an easy swap, not so with 22R trucks. Someone needs to figure out an easy way to get a 1GR-FE 4.0L AND 6 speed Taco transmission in for a 22R-E...

AxleIke
04-10-2013, 10:04 AM
3RZ will bring mid to high 20's for mileage. Buddy with an 00 Single cab taco on 33's was getting 27-28 hwy before he swapped to a 5VZ.

That said, I'm with the other guys. Put in a new V8. Something with some power. Toy motors are great, but for the hassle of a swap, might as well get all you can.

baja1d
04-10-2013, 11:54 AM
3RZ will bring mid to high 20's for mileage. Buddy with an 00 Single cab taco on 33's was getting 27-28 hwy before he swapped to a 5VZ.

That said, I'm with the other guys. Put in a new V8. Something with some power. Toy motors are great, but for the hassle of a swap, might as well get all you can.

^^^ Couldn't agree more & that's after going from a 1f to a 2f. Same block but a ton of work!!!

Shark Bait
04-10-2013, 03:49 PM
Well, after some more research and discussion, I am passing on this. It's just too much of a project for me. If it had been complete with a blown engine I might have gone for it. Maybe another one will pop up that's a little better.

Thanks for all the input.