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cbmontgo
04-27-2013, 05:15 PM
The DC plug that I just bought from Engel USA seems to have stopped working (worked fine for a few minutes). The outlet is getting power, and the fuse looks to be intact. Fridge works perfectly on the 110 plug.

Any ideas?

Keith
04-27-2013, 07:24 PM
The short answer is that those 12v Cigarette Lighter plugs are pretty useless...

But this thread has a lot more info:
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=19446&highlight=fridge

Also, I know that Marco (Rover67) has a lot of knowledge about this floating around in his brain if you wanted to query him directly.

When I get my fridge, I plan to wire it up with a quick disconnect rather than rely on those cigarette lighter plugs... Which is a bummer because I came across the above thread about a week after I installed a couple of cig plugs specifically for use with my fridge.

cbmontgo
04-27-2013, 07:58 PM
My issue is not that it has a weak connection or falls out...the cord itself doesn't deliver power to the fridge. It acts like the inline fuse is blown, but it's not. I left a VM today with Engel; hopefully they send me another. Shouldn't be too much to ask considering what those cost with shipping...

Inukshuk
04-27-2013, 08:07 PM
This is the definitive fridge cord thread, as long as you don't really want to learn anything http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=19022&highlight=arb+power+cord

Uncle Ben
04-27-2013, 08:14 PM
I would check the fuse with your ohm meter or just swap with a know good fuse. I have seen defective fuses before where the usable bridge detaches from the cap.

Keith
04-27-2013, 08:21 PM
A lot of people have had that issue with the cig plugs. It stays in but fails to supply power. The connection gets hot and the fridge reads that there is low voltage and shuts off.

Explained in detail in this thread:
http://risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=15718

That might not be your problem, but it sure sounds a lot like it.

cbmontgo
04-27-2013, 08:45 PM
Thanks, guys. Step 1 is to see if I can swap that Engel fuse tomorrow and isolate that as the problem. Will follow up.

sleeoffroad
04-28-2013, 07:51 AM
The Engel will run down to about 10v. So that is not the issue. What dealer did you get it from? They should be able to help you. The fuse is special slow burn.

MDH33
04-28-2013, 09:23 AM
Have you plugged the cord into your outlet and checked for power on the end that plugs into the fridge? That might help narrow down if the issue is the cord or the fridge power.

cbmontgo
04-28-2013, 10:03 AM
The Engel will run down to about 10v. So that is not the issue. What dealer did you get it from? They should be able to help you. The fuse is special slow burn.

I bought it from Engel USA down in Florida I think. I left them a VM yesterday and hopefully they can overnight me a new fuse by Wednesday.

Can I swap in a standard glass fuse temporarily?

Have you plugged the cord into your outlet and checked for power on the end that plugs into the fridge? That might help narrow down if the issue is the cord or the fridge power.

I have not...I just need to check for continuity, right?

cbmontgo
04-28-2013, 05:21 PM
I would check the fuse with your ohm meter or just swap with a know good fuse. I have seen defective fuses before where the usable bridge detaches from the cap.

Looks like this was the issue...the fuse had no continuity. I am temporarily running a 10A glass fuse in place of it and it is working perfectly.

Any danger to the compressor in running a standard fuse instead?

sleeoffroad
04-29-2013, 07:46 AM
I bought it from Engel USA down in Florida I think. I left them a VM yesterday and hopefully they can overnight me a new fuse by Wednesday.

Strange, we are an Engel dealer and I did not think they sell direct.


Can I swap in a standard glass fuse temporarily?


yes, but I would keep some spares just in case. The slow burn is less likely to burn on start-up.

cbmontgo
04-29-2013, 08:41 AM
Thanks, Christo. I do have a few spares on hand.

I am not sure about buying fridges on their site, but you can buy accessories for sure.

sleeoffroad
04-29-2013, 08:46 AM
I am not sure about buying fridges on their site, but you can buy accessories for sure.

I just checked. Well, that is something new and I did not realize they were doing that now. Unfortunately for us that is what is happening all over the market. Makes one wonder why you are then a stocking dealer and absorb the shipping costs to get the inventory to your store.

cbmontgo
04-29-2013, 09:28 AM
I just checked. Well, that is something new and I did not realize they were doing that now. Unfortunately for us that is what is happening all over the market. Makes one wonder why you are then a stocking dealer and absorb the shipping costs to get the inventory to your store.

Sorry to hear that, Christo. I could see where that could get very frustrating. If it's any consolation, I am thrilled with my Slee reservoir bracket and auxiliary lighting harness that I just installed!

cbmontgo
05-11-2013, 11:19 PM
Just as a follow-up to this thread...a 10-amp "temporary" fuse held up fine for 4 days in the desert and 5 days' in normal driving activity around town (fridge stayed nice and cold). The DC plug stayed solidly in place with the Blue Sea DC socket.

I am disappointed that Engel USA never called me back after I left a VM 2 weeks ago though.

Thanks for the help and advice, guys.