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Rezarf
07-13-2013, 12:54 PM
Was this a factory offering or a really well executed or photo-chopped creation. I am very tempted to create something like this on an 100 series or tundra chassis.

Anyone ever come across this build up? Or it may be a photo chop, if so, its pretty good. :thumb:

MTSN
07-13-2013, 01:11 PM
Looks like a photoshop because here's the same picture without the back doors

http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=282779&stc=1&d=1229400902

But this one looks pretty legit! It looks like the FJ troop carrier with doors grafted on the back. I have always liked troopies!

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6189/6055760178_2a05ff258c_z.jpg

60wag
07-13-2013, 01:15 PM
I think its a photo chop. The lower door hinges are too similar and the thickness of the rear door window frame is too skinny on the front side. Nice looking concept though.

Rezarf
07-13-2013, 03:12 PM
That other photo makes me think its a photo chop as well. I wonder if I scale it in photoshop I could start to see what kind of wheel base it has. Man, I would be LOVING something like that.

subzali
07-13-2013, 10:10 PM
The fj43 had a longer wheelbase than an fj40 but the rear overhang was pretty long. That was a custom job. Looked like arctic trucks

MDH33
07-13-2013, 10:56 PM
Doesn't Aqualu make a body kind of like that? (http://www.aqualu.com/fj-quad--crew-cabs.html)

Might be a good place to start since you're contemplating building something. The 100/40 series idea is interesting. :cool:

Corbet
07-14-2013, 09:00 AM
I've thought about doing something like that too with my 40. But can't decide if it would be worth the work. In the end you'll still have the thin 40 body and poor aerodynamics all making it noisy on the HWY. Never be as comfortable to take on a long trip as a modern wagon 80/100/200. It wood be cool as hell but not practical enough for my :Princess:

Back to the original pic, I'm pretty sure its a photoshop from MUD.

70 sieres "mini van" conversion in OZ: http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=119211

Rezarf
07-14-2013, 09:05 AM
I've thought about doing something like that too with my 40. But can't decide if it would be worth the work. In the end you'll still have the thin 40 body and poor aerodynamics all making it noisy on the HWY. Never be as comfortable to take on a long trip as a modern wagon 80/100/200. It wood be cool as hell but not practical enough for my :Princess:

Back to the original pic, I'm pretty sure its a photoshop from MUD.

Mama has a Sienna, Daddy's got have some fun in life :thumb:

I bet carpet and a 1/2 mile of Dynomat would knock the noise down well.

Corbet
07-14-2013, 09:27 AM
Mama has a Sienna, Daddy's got have some fun in life :thumb:

I bet carpet and a 1/2 mile of Dynomat would knock the noise down well.

I understand both those:thumb:

Bruiser
07-15-2013, 09:24 PM
Was this a factory offering or a really well executed or photo-chopped creation. I am very tempted to create something like this on an 100 series or tundra chassis.

Anyone ever come across this build up? Or it may be a photo chop, if so, its pretty good. :thumb:

My wife just said she loves it and gave me permission to buy a troop!

zornff
07-25-2013, 03:08 PM
I think it would be awesome to build one on a Tundra platform, but Tundra's are way too wide. Maybe cut one in half lengthwise, and then add extra width ? This thought process is what made me cut my 40 in half and do an extra cab 45. Was it a ton of work ? Yes. Was it worth it ? Yes. Do I miss it, or miss working on it ? NO. Crazy.

Rezarf
07-25-2013, 04:29 PM
Thanks for chiming in Mike. You sold your rig? Bummer, it was one of my favorites.

Drew

OilHammer
07-26-2013, 11:00 AM
A tundra is huge, and the leafs in back are not the way I would want to go. Personally, if I was going to build a stretch 40 with a modern drivetrain, I would be looking for a rolled GX470. You get a V8, coils, longer, but not too wide, ATRAC, etc. You can buy a custom stretch body from aqualu to fit the frame, and then try to swap the harness, booster, pedals, pretty much everything from the donor on over. If you are dead set on a solid axle, then it shouldn't be too bad at that point, but I think I would run IFS for a bit to try it out. I'm pretty sure an aluminum 40 with no top would be substantially lighter than the GX, which should make for a pretty stout drivetrain.

Some fun figures:
GX470 4,800lbs
LX470 5,590lbs
FJ cru 4,290lbs
FJ40 3,263lbs

Comparing the GX to the FJ, you can see that all that insulation, heavy seats, and gadgetry add a whooping 500lbs! I would guess and alu 40 might drop that curb weight somewhere around 3,800 lbs, which would make it a ROCKET.

OilHammer
07-26-2013, 11:05 AM
Oh, and if you are wanting a 4 door or 3 door, you should be looking for the rare bandierante that had that from the factory. They are getting into the years to be legal for import, they just are still expensive down there. I have found quite a few, so rare, but not impossible.

zornff
07-26-2013, 05:19 PM
A tundra is huge, and the leafs in back are not the way I would want to go. Personally, if I was going to build a stretch 40 with a modern drivetrain, I would be looking for a rolled GX470. You get a V8, coils, longer, but not too wide, ATRAC, etc. You can buy a custom stretch body from aqualu to fit the frame, and then try to swap the harness, booster, pedals, pretty much everything from the donor on over. If you are dead set on a solid axle, then it shouldn't be too bad at that point, but I think I would run IFS for a bit to try it out. I'm pretty sure an aluminum 40 with no top would be substantially lighter than the GX, which should make for a pretty stout drivetrain.

Some fun figures:
GX470 4,800lbs
LX470 5,590lbs
FJ cru 4,290lbs
FJ40 3,263lbs

Comparing the GX to the FJ, you can see that all that insulation, heavy seats, and gadgetry add a whooping 500lbs! I would guess and alu 40 might drop that curb weight somewhere around 3,800 lbs, which would make it a ROCKET.

This would be a very cool rig, but by the time you finish hemorrhaging cash you could buy almost any luxury SUV out there.:thumb: But its all about the journey, right ?

OilHammer
07-26-2013, 05:38 PM
Crashed GX can be had for somewhere between $3k to $10k depending on how bad it was smashed. For example: http://erepairables.com/salvage-cars-auction/suvs/lexus/gx+470/2005-lexus-gx+470-4670255 (and boy is that one tempting...talk about cheap wheeler. Flares and steps are already removed for you!)
Body is somewhere near 10, then plan on spending another 10 on bumpers, headlights, sliders, and all that misc junk to make it complete. So, yeah, you could buy a Wrangler Unlimited Rubyourcon and spend the next two years driving instead of building.

waggoner5
07-28-2013, 03:36 PM
Sounds like +50k to me, although a build like this has been high on my radar for a long time. Mike and I even met with Aqualu to see if they would build bodies to bolt onto 80 chassis for us. Although expensive, it seemed like a sellable truck. Aqualu doesnt build tops or doors so you would be on your own on that stuff. I put a pencil to the Aqualu route and figured a truck built with all toyota parts would cost close to 70k to build the way I would want.

Rezarf
07-29-2013, 08:25 AM
Sounds like +50k to me, although a build like this has been high on my radar for a long time. Mike and I even met with Aqualu to see if they would build bodies to bolt onto 80 chassis for us. Although expensive, it seemed like a sellable truck. Aqualu doesnt build tops or doors so you would be on your own on that stuff. I put a pencil to the Aqualu route and figured a truck built with all toyota parts would cost close to 70k to build the way I would want.

Yeah, I'd be on a much tighter budget doing things that I could and making decisions based on budget. It would get close to what I'd want, I know the level you build to and it is second to none. Thanks for the real world advice. I am thinking of a bit of a shade tree project.

Thanks Gary. I was sad to see that your last project was totaled. Glad you are all safe! :thumb:

OilHammer
07-29-2013, 12:11 PM
Sounds like +50k to me, although a build like this has been high on my radar for a long time. Mike and I even met with Aqualu to see if they would build bodies to bolt onto 80 chassis for us. Although expensive, it seemed like a sellable truck. Aqualu doesnt build tops or doors so you would be on your own on that stuff. I put a pencil to the Aqualu route and figured a truck built with all toyota parts would cost close to 70k to build the way I would want.

It "should" be way more than that if you are basically doing a scratch build. I have a pretty extensive spread sheet detailing all the necessary components to do such a build. Not including labor, its darn expensive. The whole reason for starting with a GX or FJ would be the intention of repurposing nearly every part there to keep those costs down. The minute you start buying brake boosters and such, you are dropping $600 here and there on little stuff. Even then, there will be gobs of custom fab work to make a lot of those components fit the 40 style dash & firewall.
I just spent an entire day making an alternator bracket to be just right. Plan on that for every single custom bracket, so many, many man hours in a project like that.