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bomber22
07-22-2013, 02:31 PM
just wondering, for those who have or have looked at the 07 and up tundras what are your thoughts?

Keith
07-22-2013, 02:36 PM
Thought about it when I was looking for a truck... If I never had to park it... I'd love to have one.

FJBRADY
07-22-2013, 02:51 PM
I have a 07 5.7 DC limited which I bought in 2010 with 35K on the odo and I love it. I just passed 85,000 miles with no issues. I use it as a daily driver and to tow my FJ40. I tow back and forth to Moab twice per year, around the front range 4 to 5 times a year and just got back from towing to and from Ouray. The truck will tow as hard as you want it to and it will maintain 75 mph though the tunnel.

MPG empty: 14-15 around town and 20 hwy.
MPG towing 7,000 lbs 9-11.

Only compliant is that is a bit bouncy on concrete roads when empty, but it is a truck.

I would recommend the truck :thumb:

MDH33
07-22-2013, 04:50 PM
I looked hard at them when we were truck shopping. they are super nice. Going from a double cab Tacoma to a Tundra, we opted for an '05. Mainly for price, partly for slightly smaller size. The newer version was a little spendy for our budget. I'm happy with the '05 but it will likely be traded in at some point towards a newer version. ;)

bomber22
07-22-2013, 04:55 PM
thanks steve, looking at 07/08's to replace my 2000 tundra and to also pull my 19 foot hybred trailer better, kind of a dog going up and over berthoud or the tunnel.

bomber22
07-22-2013, 05:01 PM
yes martin your right about the budget, but the 2000 is getting tired and boring. its the one i drove up at argentine last oct when we put signs up.

bomber22
07-22-2013, 05:08 PM
Only compliant is that is a bit bouncy on concrete roads when empty, but it is a truck.

read that on the web earlier something to do with harmonic balancing of the truck do to the cracks in the road, adjusting speed seamed to help.

Corbet
07-22-2013, 08:15 PM
My neighbor has one and DD's it rather than his 80 series. He likes it a lot. Said he had been getting 18HWY in stock config. In the process of lifting it 3" this week. I'm interested for the report post lift.

zornff
07-25-2013, 01:49 PM
I have a 2012 crew cab and love it. Just got to 30k on the ticker, and then the steering rack went out. Covered under warranty, so good to go.
I installed full icon suspension and 35" Duratracs, still getting 16-17 hwy mpg. Around town maybe 14.

treerootCO
07-25-2013, 01:55 PM
I placed my order for the diesel version... they haven't called me back

SteveH
02-17-2014, 12:59 PM
RE: the previous reply - now wait for the phone to ring... ;-)

http://blog.caranddriver.com/toyota-tundra-does-a-titan-move-turns-to-cummins-for-a-diesel-v-8/

Corbet
02-17-2014, 03:19 PM
I still don't understand why Toyota would turn to Cummins to buy a power plant. Its not like they are new to the diesel market. Drop the 4.5 in and go.

DaveInDenver
02-17-2014, 03:44 PM
I still don't understand why Toyota would turn to Cummins to buy a power plant. Its not like they are new to the diesel market. Drop the 4.5 in and go.
Makes no sense to me either. The 4.5L V8 is by all accounts a very nice diesel, quiet, accelerates almost like a gasoline engine. Why they would choose to duplicate by developing a rattling Cummins is beyond me. It's like they didn't learn from the made-by-Dana frame debacle on partnering with domestic subs.

Plus, diesel Tacoma. WTF. If you want to increase CAFE fleet average taking the Taco that outsells the Tundra 5-to-1 from 19 MPG to 30 MPG would help immensely.

AxleIke
02-17-2014, 06:46 PM
I really like the new Tundra's, but as stated, they are big, and my current situation doesn't really allow for a long vehicle (won't fit in the garage, and too nice to leave on the street where teenagers will vandalize it). In a perfect world, I'd have one to pull heavy loads, and my toys, and a smaller truck for camping/hunting/etc... (Wouldn't we all? :rolleyes:)

I'm not in the market anymore, but I looked at a lot of different options for a pickup truck in the last year, including the Tundra, as well as the gas and diesel offerings of the big 3 domestic trucks.

Given the power in most of the new gas engines, including the tundra, and that I'd only be loading it infrequently, I honestly lost my interest in diesels.

Diesels tend to have a higher initial purchase price, comparatively high maintenance costs, as well as the higher fuel cost, all of which made the fuel economy a wash to me, albeit that is considering the current diesel offerings, which are 3/4 to 1 ton usually (so large trucks).

I've had no personal experience with small, 4 cyl diesels, which Dave suggests for the Tacoma.

I know Toyota has been selling the D4D Hilux and I truly love the look of the Hilux, but if the purchase price and maintenance cost differential is as high for the Hilux as compared to the tacoma as the Diesel versions of the big 3 compared to gas trucks, I'd again have to look at the operating costs pretty closely. The efficiency in a small diesel is better, to be sure. I suppose if (or when, hopefully) small diesel toyotas come to the US, I'll get a chance to see! :D

Of course, that supposes a diesel Tacoma. If the Hilux styling came too, I'd be all over it!

I also wonder about the actual economy. 31 mpg is what is posted for the D4D double cab, but the double cab taco is 24/19, or around 21-22 mixed. I don't know how many are actually seeing that. I imagine its similar in the Hilux.

So, my conclusion was that diesels will run away from gas trucks when fully loaded, and if you load them down a lot, they can't be beat. For a wheeler, or camping/outdoorsy truck, and occasional hauler, I'd probably stick with gas. But, to each their own.

Squishy!
02-17-2014, 06:56 PM
I still don't understand why Toyota would turn to Cummins to buy a power plant. Its not like they are new to the diesel market. Drop the 4.5 in and go.


Toyota already struggles against an "American" truck market. Maybe having a Cummins badge was a political move. Even with a Cummins our lot would be ALL over that so it'd be win win for Toyota. Then there's retraining of all dealer technicians and manufacture of special service tools. Cummins would help reduce all that cost and process I'm sure.

Corbet
02-17-2014, 07:32 PM
Could be some stupid import law too. Having the Cummins boosts the % of USA made parts?

Either way I'm interested. I'll need a big business write off in a couple years. This could be the ticket and retire the 80 to trail use.

Squishy!
02-18-2014, 06:35 AM
The new Tundra is almost entirely made in the USA. The engines are even built in Georgia IIRC. That's more than the F150 or Silverado can boast. So it wouldn't surprise me if the diesels would be built here as well. Especially since Toyota would have to build something to compete with the big diesels. I'm not aware of any 1+ ton engines they produce anywhere else. That being said I know very little about Toyota Diesels.

DaveInDenver
02-18-2014, 11:00 AM
I'm not aware of any 1+ ton engines they produce anywhere else. That being said I know very little about Toyota Diesels.
Beyond just the small truck Toyota diesels like the 1KD-FTV (D4D) and 1VD-FTV (4.5L in the Cruiser), Hino makes several inline 4 and 6 cylinder commercial diesels for world markets.

http://www.hino-global.com/products/diesel_engines/

The largest is a 13L E13C that produces roughly 1,165 lb-ft and 410 HP, which they use in the 700 series lorries, which are equivalent to our class 8 OTR and heavy duty trucks.

http://www.hino-global.com/products/trucks/index.html
http://www.hinotrucks.co.za/page/home#

I think it's purely marketing, since even emissions is likely not an issue as most countries where Toyota and Hino sell diesels have rules just like our EPA and CARB. Doesn't seem to be an issue for VW, BMW, Mercedes, etc., when they decide to get EPA & DOT certifications.

Caribou Sandstorm
02-18-2014, 01:44 PM
Sweet!

http://www.hino-global.com/dakar/images/img_dakar_top.jpg

DaveInDenver
02-18-2014, 02:17 PM
Bitchin' Hino!

Rezarf
02-18-2014, 03:56 PM
I have a 2012 crew cab and love it. Just got to 30k on the ticker, and then the steering rack went out. Covered under warranty, so good to go.
I installed full icon suspension and 35" Duratracs, still getting 16-17 hwy mpg. Around town maybe 14.

Mike, did you regear?

smslavin
02-18-2014, 04:55 PM
Mike, did you regear?

From the research I've done, which is limited at this point, the 5.7s don't need a regear unless you go larger than 35. Most of the ones I've seen with 37s have been regeared.

Personally, I'm not planning a regear and will be running 35s. I will be adding an ARB locker in the back though.

Squishy!
02-18-2014, 07:50 PM
Beyond just the small truck Toyota diesels like the 1KD-FTV (D4D) and 1VD-FTV (4.5L in the Cruiser), Hino makes several inline 4 and 6 cylinder commercial


I suppose I should have been more specific

DenCo40
02-21-2014, 09:10 AM
I enjoyed my 2010 Double cab for the year and a half that I had it. It was too big for the garage and driveway and I wasn't about to let it sit on the street so I sold it. I really liked that the 5.7 had tons of power and everyone commented on how quiet it was in the cab. Everywhere is quiet to me because I am deaf. The only thing I didn't like was it just seemed so huge when driving in tight spaces or parking lots. My wife would always laugh because it took a twenty point turn to make it into a parking spot.

Beater
03-01-2014, 05:34 AM
i had a 13 trd/sr5 (totaled, 3 weeks old) and take delivery on a 13 limited tomorrow. I could probably contribute something.

MDH33
03-01-2014, 06:36 AM
i had a 13 trd/sr5 (totaled, 3 weeks old) and take delivery on a 13 limited tomorrow. I could probably contribute something.

Good news from insurance (finally)? ;)

Beater
03-01-2014, 09:09 AM
Good news from insurance (finally)? ;)

insurance was stellar. city of denver, not so much.

bomber22
03-06-2014, 06:07 PM
beater, nice looking truck. was your other one a dbl cab or a crew cab? I like the idea of the power back window on the crew cabs and wish they were on the dbl cabs ,it's not like you can reach back and open/close the slider while your driving.Any way i'm still looking and am not sure if i want a dbl or a crew cab.

Beater
03-08-2014, 12:29 PM
dbl cab is plenty big. 6 footers are no problem in the back seat of a double cab. In my opinion, the bed is just too damn small on the cmax, and the back seats are hella huge. NO one needs an adjustable back seat, plus there is no storage on most cmax's.

the 2014 has a sliding rear window on the limited, it was std on the 13 with the sr5 upgrade package. They took out all the interior storage on the 14's too. oh, and a 6% price increase.