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theboomboom
08-28-2013, 08:03 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/27/chevy-colorado-gmc-canyon-midsize-pickup-trucks-to-get-diesel-e/

Would you get it?

Looks like we're getting something pretty close to the truck that just went on sale in Thailand. I'm guessing we'll get some sort of handicapped version- DEF, DPF, automatic transmission only, etc. Still, a compact diesel pickup is enticing... just the sort of thing we'd been hoping Toyota would start selling here for years.

DaveInDenver
08-28-2013, 08:11 AM
Since Toyota seems to want to make a bigger, fancy Tacoma than I need that does not have the diesel engine I want, you betcha I would consider it. Particularly if it's a world truck with a full, real frame. It ain't rocket surgery, Toyota. Moderate size, simple, reliable, long lasting, easy on gas, reasonably capable. A funky stripe down the side is OK embellishment but I don't need every danged gizmo and gadget under the sun.

Jacket
08-28-2013, 08:45 AM
Interesting. Makes me want to try and like GM. I didn't look very hard - were any MPG numbers published?

AxleIke
08-28-2013, 10:00 AM
Absolutely. These would be killer!

baja1d
08-28-2013, 10:26 AM
While looking at this link I noticed this: http://m.autoblog.com/2013/08/20/nissan-titan-turbo-diesel-v8-cummins/. You may not have to like GM after all Jacket

SteveH
08-28-2013, 11:09 AM
If it depreciates like a Chevy Trailblazer, just wait a few years and pick up one for cheap. Lately, most '4wd' GM stuff has very poor ground clearance, so I'm not sure how good this would be for 'wheeling.

Caribou Sandstorm
08-28-2013, 11:20 AM
Would it be solid front axel?

I think that would push me over the edge. I really want a pickup with a 4x4 camper on it, for Maze/Powel/Baja trips and Ski weekends. I have been looking at some of these chevy pick ups lately and thinking, hmm do they have solid front axels? Toyota reliability is great but a new Chevy has to be as reliable as a 20/30 year old Toyota, right? Diesel with solid front axel would be my perfect combo, no matter the manufacturer. Living in North America makes it virtually impossible to get the holy grail, 79 series.., at least before I am 74 years old..

Jeep is supposed to do this in 2014 for the Rubicon, so I have heard. They have it for the 2014 Grand Cherokee.. Read it in OJ.

Sell my LC and buy one of these, then I could see picking up a 40 for a project.

DaveInDenver
08-28-2013, 11:29 AM
This will be a small truck, more similar in size to a Tacoma than a Tundra/Titan/Silverado/Ram. Engine is not a V8 diesel, but a 4 cylinder 2.8L turbo. Same class as the D4D Toyota, for example.

It would be IFS. Period. Very likely cab-on-ladder frame and live rear axle on leaf springs. Pretty much standard construction in small trucks for the last 20+ years.

It's believed to look like this, more or less. Not all that different from the other world trucks out there, Hilux, Ranger, Triton, Navara. They all sorta look like rounded bars of soap to me and all look kinda the same. All said I'll take mine in Toyota flavor, the reputation of the Hiiux being what it is. But I have a sneaky suspicion that this truck is more 'truck' than the Tacoma and that would be fine.

http://www.2014-chevy-colorado.com/uploads/1/4/8/6/14861544/9960247_orig.jpg

It, like everything now, would need suspension and a bull bar. For example, takes a stock Hilux:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1IVrZnP4HU8/TiuYN8A-67I/AAAAAAAACZc/Jf-j_aoZjq4/s1600/2011-Toyota-Hilux-Nice+9.jpg

To this:
http://www.surf4cars.co.za/car_photos/562012075856Hilux_ARB_001.jpg

http://www.vehicletraders.co.za/image_preview.php?filename=upload/1866/1209546_1.jpg

Caribou Sandstorm
08-28-2013, 11:42 AM
I like the shorter bed and 4 door look.

I think I would lift it, put big tires on it and call it a day, after adding a 4x4 camper and Ham radio. Maybe a bumper and winch some day.

For what I am doing, I just don't see the need for all the extra stuff.

theboomboom
08-28-2013, 12:10 PM
Interesting. Makes me want to try and like GM. I didn't look very hard - were any MPG numbers published?

Here's an article that talks a little about fuel economy for the Colorado-

http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2012/08/global-pickup-shootout-overall-value.html

Looks like it will be around 25 mpg depending on configuration. No official word about how well the NA version will perform. Considering the kind of mileage Dodge is getting out of the V6 gas motor, it had better be at least 25.

AxleIke
08-28-2013, 01:04 PM
I like the shorter bed and 4 door look.

I think I would lift it, put big tires on it and call it a day, after adding a 4x4 camper and Ham radio. Maybe a bumper and winch some day.

For what I am doing, I just don't see the need for all the extra stuff.

You may want to reconsider the shorter bed. My dad has a FWC in his 04 Taco. It sticks out of the 6 ft bed by a few inches, and it is NOT big. 2 people in it is tricky. Any more is nearly impossible.

Those are either 5 or 5.5 foot beds, which would either have a camper sticking WAY out the back (easy to catch on stuff) or be so small as to be impractical for a camper.

Now, if you went full custom and got one that replaced the bed rather than just slid into it, then that would be a different story.

Here is how a small model camper looks in the 6 foot bed:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/DSCN2991.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/DSCN2875.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/DSCN2934.jpg

Just food for thought. FWIW, this truck gets 18 with the camper, but its supercharged so that helps a bit.

coax
08-28-2013, 01:10 PM
While looking at this link I noticed this: http://m.autoblog.com/2013/08/20/nissan-titan-turbo-diesel-v8-cummins/. You may not have to like GM after all Jacket

A 5L turbo diesel would be awesome for a decent sided utility vehicle. Almost like the mythical 5bt :-D

Caribou Sandstorm
08-28-2013, 04:27 PM
Thanks for the pics and heads up. Looks like gotta go with the larger Bed. How does your dad like his set up?

I bet I could make something like this work well.

Any interior pics?

You may want to reconsider the shorter bed. My dad has a FWC in his 04 Taco. It sticks out of the 6 ft bed by a few inches, and it is NOT big. 2 people in it is tricky. Any more is nearly impossible.

Those are either 5 or 5.5 foot beds, which would either have a camper sticking WAY out the back (easy to catch on stuff) or be so small as to be impractical for a camper.

Now, if you went full custom and got one that replaced the bed rather than just slid into it, then that would be a different story.

Here is how a small model camper looks in the 6 foot bed:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/DSCN2991.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/DSCN2875.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/DSCN2934.jpg

Just food for thought. FWIW, this truck gets 18 with the camper, but its supercharged so that helps a bit.

AxleIke
08-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the pics and heads up. Looks like gotta go with the larger Bed. How does your dad like his set up?

I bet I could make something like this work well.

Any interior pics?

He loves it. But, its just him and my mom.

I don't have any interior pics right now. FWC has some on their website, but it totally depends on what you opt to go with as far as options and ammenities.

His has a fridge, sink, stove, and cabinets on the driver side. There is a 1 ft wide walk way in the middle, and bench with storage underneath on the passenger side. Storage bench at the front end (by the cab) Queen sized bed above the cab, and the bench folds down into another small bed, but its not really comfy, nor easy to use.

He has a shower on the outside, as he has a hot water heater, and a propane heater on the inside. The fridge runs off of the battery or propane, and the camper has two additional batteries that charge off of the truck when driving, and solar panels when parked. If you run out of juice, you can switch to propane to keep the fridge cold so your food doesn't spoil.

Another option is Phoenix campers. You generally have to give your truck to them, but they'll custom build a pop up to the truck, which, IMO looks a lot better and can possibly make better use of space.

Corbet
09-04-2013, 04:58 PM
At 25MPG I don't see the US market embracing a diesel. That is not enough MPG gain to really offset the extra cost of the fuel. Now if it comes with a significant power increase too then maybe.

In the end I hope it just motivates Toyota to rework their emissions and sell us what the rest of the world gets.

A JK with a diesel and a AT Habitat could put me over the edge to join Rudy and drive a Jeep. That's the only non-HD vehicle I could ever see our market getting a diesel and SFA.