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RockRunner
12-15-2006, 01:13 PM
I am looking for a 4-5 inch lift for my 85 4runner, I have looked at the ones from Marlin etc but $1500 is a bit much right now. What do you have or who can help me design a cheaper chevy set up.

Next I am looking for some used 33" mud terrains for a 16" wheel. If I do the lift before I find tires I will be looking for 35" ones.

Any help is appreciated, I have been looking at the Chevy spring set up but do not feel comfertable enough to tackle it myself right now.

lfd270ben
12-15-2006, 08:48 PM
Go SOA costs right around 550$ for parts/ cut and turn from proffitts cruisers and gives you 5 1/2 inches lift.

RockRunner
12-16-2006, 11:01 AM
Go SOA costs right around 550$ for parts/ cut and turn from proffitts cruisers and gives you 5 1/2 inches lift.

Can you explain this, "cut and turn from proffitts cruiser" please?

I assume he is a member that is no longer using his stuff but not sure:confused:

THe cost sure sounds good, are you going to the Christmas party? I should be there around noon most likely a little later.

corsair23
12-16-2006, 04:46 PM
Proffitts is a Cruiser place over on the West slope (Delta).

Proffitts Cruisers (http://www.proffittscruisers.com/conversions.html)

Cut and turn is the term used when someone does a SOA (Spring Over Axle) conversion from a SUA (Spring Under Axle) setup. Basically you take the springs and relocate them to the top of the axle. By doing so you change the driveshaft angles and a bunch of other stuff. In order to compensate for these changes one of the items many folks do it to "cut and turn" the axle. By that, they actually cut the axle on each end and turn it the number of degrees needed to offset the changes made by going SOA. Then, the axle ends are re-welded on.

Here is Proffitts page on SOA: SOA Details (http://www.proffittscruisers.com/suspension/soa.html)

Here is a SOA explanation/write up found on MUD: MUD SOA writeup (http://www.ih8mud.com/tech/soa/index.html)

Some love SOA, some don't. Some say SOA makes already high CG vehicles even more 'tippy', some don't. I have read that SOA done right can actually make a vehicle ride better and you gain much better articulation (you can use flat stock springs).

I've never ridden in nor driven in a Toyota with the SOA setup so I don't have a bias yet one way or the other.

RockRunner
12-16-2006, 05:42 PM
Proffitts is a Cruiser place over on the West slope (Delta).

Proffitts Cruisers (http://www.proffittscruisers.com/conversions.html)

Cut and turn is the term used when someone does a SOA (Spring Over Axle) conversion from a SUA (Spring Under Axle) setup. Basically you take the springs and relocate them to the top of the axle. By doing so you change the driveshaft angles and a bunch of other stuff. In order to compensate for these changes one of the items many folks do it to "cut and turn" the axle. By that, they actually cut the axle on each end and turn it the number of degrees needed to offset the changes made by going SOA. Then, the axle ends are re-welded on.

Here is Proffitts page on SOA: SOA Details (http://www.proffittscruisers.com/suspension/soa.html)

Here is a SOA explanation/write up found on MUD: MUD SOA writeup (http://www.ih8mud.com/tech/soa/index.html)

Some love SOA, some don't. Some say SOA makes already high CG vehicles even more 'tippy', some don't. I have read that SOA done right can actually make a vehicle ride better and you gain much better articulation (you can use flat stock springs).

I've never ridden in nor driven in a Toyota with the SOA setup so I don't have a bias yet one way or the other.

OK I knew that just not by the acronym. Problem is that I have 4Runner so the springs are already on top. I need springs that will lift me. I know what I want to do sort of but not 100% sure yet.

Thanks for all the info, pretty nice site.

isotel
12-18-2006, 02:12 PM
your runner will not need any cut and turn or SO, its already done from the factory!

the issue you need to think about is steering.. you could just buy some Skyjacker lift for under $400, but your stuck with the J-arm Steering..

Or you can save up and do a Real nice Lift with Hysteer arms and an IFS PS Box..

This thread has some info on it
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=117793

RockRunner
12-18-2006, 09:57 PM
your runner will not need any cut and turn or SO, its already done from the factory!

the issue you need to think about is steering.. you could just buy some Skyjacker lift for under $400, but your stuck with the J-arm Steering..

Or you can save up and do a Real nice Lift with Hysteer arms and an IFS PS Box..

This thread has some info on it
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=117793

Thanks for the info, I have been looking around at some of the kits from Matlin etc. but was hoping somebody here was changing or going back to stock and pick up their used kit.

I do want a real nice lift but not the price of it LOL but................looks like I am going to have to break down and go got it. I wish you could do the lift and then the hi steer part but no luck. I guess it is time to save some big time $$$$