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art hog
01-18-2007, 07:22 PM
any recomendations? for a head gasket and timing change. near golden or close to.

Terry

Rzeppa
01-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Joe Calleja at Colorado Toyota Specialists in Aspen Park. (303) 838-4772. He's a Rising Sun member and expert on 22REs. I've used him a number of times for my daughter's 85 runner when I didn't have time to deal with it, including head gasket and timing chain.

nuclearlemon
01-18-2007, 10:08 PM
don't know about the head gasket, but the timing chain is easy to do.

Rzeppa
01-18-2007, 11:35 PM
don't know about the head gasket, but the timing chain is easy to do.Doing the timing chain on a 20R/22R/22RE requires removing the head...and the rad, and... :-(

Bummer thing about these is that chain itself is usually fine, it's almost always the tensioner and guide that needs replacing.

While all the manuals say you MUST remove the head to do the chain, Joe told me about a trick he knows of where he doesn't have to actually remove the head. I looked at it and looked back at him and scratched mine. He then confided that it was quite a trick and was actually a PITA.

nuclearlemon
01-19-2007, 08:30 AM
Doing the timing chain on a 20R/22R/22RE requires removing the head...and the rad, and... :-(

Bummer thing about these is that chain itself is usually fine, it's almost always the tensioner and guide that needs replacing.

While all the manuals say you MUST remove the head to do the chain, Joe told me about a trick he knows of where he doesn't have to actually remove the head. I looked at it and looked back at him and scratched mine. He then confided that it was quite a trick and was actually a PITA.

i didn't have to remove the head or pan when i did mine. it was a piece of cake. frank morgan from pederson toyota told me they never remove the head to do t/c

Red_Chili
01-19-2007, 09:11 AM
The HGs have a service life, however, and it's worth it to replace the HG while you're in there - then forget about it for another 120K. A weak HG can erode the head and block, which starts getting very expensive. Don't ask me how I know that - let's just say the Chili had the shortcut version prior to my purchasing it.

Three Wheel Ben
01-19-2007, 10:45 AM
The HGs have a service life, however, and it's worth it to replace the HG while you're in there - then forget about it for another 120K. A weak HG can erode the head and block, which starts getting very expensive. Don't ask me how I know that - let's just say the Chili had the shortcut version prior to my purchasing it.

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isotel
01-19-2007, 03:14 PM
im about to tackle this job on my 4runner 22re.. I was under the assumption that if you pull the head for a gasket, you should send the head to a machine shop to have it looked at and milled.. I dont know if i want to get into that.. My main issue is that the front timing chain cover leaks like Crazy.. and i got almost 160k on the clock..

nuclearlemon
01-19-2007, 05:10 PM
[QUOTE=DaveInDenver;24987]although some people say you can just bend the front lip of the pan. IQUOTE]

i didn't have to bend mine :confused:

Rzeppa
01-19-2007, 05:35 PM
the 22R-E is in fact a non-interference engine and when the chain does break at least you don't crunch valves.First-hand experience: The 22RE IS an interference engine. Timing chain slips and you have bent valves and gouges on the piston tops. $$$

Red_Chili
01-21-2007, 04:43 PM
Compression is fairly low (esp. at this altitude), and the 22RE is way overbuilt. No worries if you mill the head a bit. You'll have to clock the cam sprocket to make up for it, but that is straightforward too with an aftermarket kit. EB at Engnbldr.com will take care of ya.

He gets up to 140HP out of 22REs (sea level, crank) but doesn't spend much time bragging about it. He is action over talk-talk.