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nakman
03-13-2007, 10:41 AM
Had a lug snap off last night while re-checking the torque on the 40. Where do I get more of these suckers.. from the dealer? Should I replace all 6? all 36?

wesintl
03-13-2007, 10:59 AM
i've replace one at a time before. napa has them for cheap.

was this on the wheel that fell of on Romer? If so I'd replace all 6 other wise just 1 unless they are stripped.

Uncle Ben
03-13-2007, 11:45 AM
Had a lug snap off last night while re-checking the torque on the 40. Where do I get more of these suckers.. from the dealer? Should I replace all 6? all 36?
Is it a rear and does it have rear disks? You can get .25" longer ones from Napa. I agree....replace all 6!

CardinalFJ60
03-13-2007, 12:12 PM
Hey Nakman,

If you get some, can you get me a set of 6?...I need to replace at least one, and now I think all 6 on one wheel.

lemmeno...thanks!

-s

wesintl
03-13-2007, 12:17 PM
Napa p/n 641-1628 (Balkamp), about a 1/4" longer
than the original ones. They're M12-1.5x44.5mm, $1.99 each.

You can also get DORMAN part #610-265 10 to a box they are M12-1.5x44.8MM

nakman
03-13-2007, 12:28 PM
Thank Wes, going to Napa now. Shawn I'll get you some as well, see what they have in stock. Yeah I think this is the wheel that fell off... left rear? appears to be a recurring theme with those rims for some reason..

wesintl
03-13-2007, 12:43 PM
BTW...Does it still have rear drums? you can knock out the broken stud and then wiggle the new one in. Then suck it on the flange with the lug nut then put the wheel on.. No need to pull the axles in the rear.

60wag
03-13-2007, 01:25 PM
Thank Wes, going to Napa now. Shawn I'll get you some as well, see what they have in stock. Yeah I think this is the wheel that fell off... left rear? appears to be a recurring theme with those rims for some reason..


Are you running chrome rims with aftermarket chrome lugnuts? When I had that combo on my 60, I would regularly find a loose nut. The zinc plated OE nuts work on the hard chrome rim or chrome nuts on a painted/powder coated wheel stay tight.

nakman
03-13-2007, 01:33 PM
Cool, I was hoping I wouldn't have to pull the axle, will try this tonight hopefully.

And yes, chrome on chrome.. they bling it up down there in Englewood.. :lmao: but it's all getting tossed soon, once I get my other set of rims cleaned up & mounted.

CardinalFJ60
03-13-2007, 02:15 PM
I sure hope you're putting the 225's back on. I loved the USPS mail truck look. I bet it pulled great up the hills!!

nakman
03-13-2007, 10:23 PM
Ok, that was pretty easy. swapped all 6, also salvaged most of the "3-part paper gasket" that was in there :hill:


So what's the recommended chrome on chrome torque spec? 75?

Uncle Ben
03-13-2007, 10:32 PM
Ok, that was pretty easy. swapped all 6, also salvaged most of the "3-part paper gasket" that was in there :hill:


So what's the recommended chrome on chrome torque spec? 75?
lug studs should always be 90#'s

Red_Chili
03-14-2007, 10:34 AM
Toy lug studs sometimes bust at that spec.
Aftermarket don't.

Romer
03-14-2007, 11:33 AM
I replaced all 6 lugs on the right rear.

I bought them at carquest and they are meteric to work with the Toyota

I used lots of washers and the lug after getting it started to seat it properly.

nakman
03-14-2007, 11:43 AM
lug studs should always be 90#'s

I hope you don't crank your 80 down to 90, that's way tf tight. (should be more like 70!) I'll give the 40 lugs another twist though, thanks!

Uncle Ben
03-14-2007, 12:02 PM
I hope you don't crank your 80 down to 90, that's way tf tight. (should be more like 70!) I'll give the 40 lugs another twist though, thanks!

Absolutely! If you have ever had a tire store put your wheels on they also use 90# torque sticks. Torque spec on most lug nuts has been 85#+/-5# since disk brakes came out!

Edit: Came up with this on a quick search....https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#torque

treerootCO
03-14-2007, 01:42 PM
page 688 (A-13) of the 1984 chassis and body FSM (http://download.birfield.com/manuals/Chassis-Body-1984-LowRes.pdf) (fj60/62) shows:

Wheel Nut
1,400kg-cm
101ft-lb
137N-m

I don't have an Fj80 FSM though

Red_Chili
03-14-2007, 02:59 PM
Well, I know nothing about 80s.
I do know that if I torque my Buell drain plug to the torque as specified, I will be doing a heli-coil in short order. Seen a bunch of Toy lug studs twisted right off too, at 90ft.lbs. But I claim relative ignorance on cruisers, YMMV.

Uncle Ben
03-14-2007, 03:26 PM
Well, I know nothing about 80s.
I do know that if I torque my Buell drain plug to the torque as specified, I will be doing a heli-coil in short order. Seen a bunch of Toy lug studs twisted right off too, at 90ft.lbs. But I claim relative ignorance on cruisers, YMMV.
Hmmmm interesting! I don't remember ever questioning why my lugs stay tight. 90#'s is NOT excessive! You can still remove them easily with a lug wrench and get this....they don't loosen! Quite the concept this torque thing is! If you tighten any lug 80-90ftlbs you will be right on in spec!

wesintl
03-14-2007, 03:29 PM
I just tighten my **** down toyota tight... no torque wrench involved.:lmao:

nakman
03-15-2007, 03:15 PM
Ok, you guys are killing me, yeah I know tire shops always over-torque, that's why I run back there and tell the guy don't bother torquing, I'll do myself. Then again, the last guy that put tires on my truck was LexusBen, so he let me pick whatever torque I wanted, and borrow his wrench! :D

So I'm going to shoot for 90 or so on the 40 and see if that keeps those buggers tight this time, once I swap on the 60 rims I may beef that up to 100.

And FWIW, your 80 is supposed to be 76 ft/pounds, please refer to your FSM for more...

Red_Chili
03-15-2007, 03:20 PM
... And FWIW, your 80 is supposed to be 76 ft/pounds, please refer to your FSM for more...
:hill:
:thumb:
What do I win?

Uncle Ben
03-15-2007, 06:46 PM
Ok, you guys are killing me, yeah I know tire shops always over-torque, that's why I run back there and tell the guy don't bother torquing, I'll do myself. Then again, the last guy that put tires on my truck was LexusBen, so he let me pick whatever torque I wanted, and borrow his wrench! :D

So I'm going to shoot for 90 or so on the 40 and see if that keeps those buggers tight this time, once I swap on the 60 rims I may beef that up to 100.

And FWIW, your 80 is supposed to be 76 ft/pounds, please refer to your FSM for more...

My nuts :eek: will remain at 90 and so will all the other lug nuts in my future with the exception of the one tons which will continue to be happy at 110!

subzali
03-17-2007, 10:05 PM
Good call Wes! :hill:

Three Wheel Ben
03-17-2007, 10:22 PM
I've never had one come loose at 76 (the ones that are supposed to be that) as with UB not having one come loose @ 90. Other thing, Make sure the threads are clean. "They" (whoever that is) say never put any kind of lube on lug studs. Usually this ok. I use regular engine oil on mine. DON'T USE ANTISEIZE. For lack of a better tech explanation is makes the threads too slippery and the lug will snap before torque is reached. Ask me how I know - numerous occasions.

Toyotas used to come with a little on them from the factory. 1st service while torquing wheels 1 or 2 would always break. Different torque wrenches. Clean the a/s off of the studs and they would torque every time - no breaky.

I think i remember seeing roger brown do a comparison test in a lab supporting this. It used to be on his web site somewhere.