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subzali
03-23-2007, 07:17 PM
when removing the oil pan with the engine in the truck, the back lip is getting stuck on something...how do I get the oil pan off? Is it the tranny it's getting stuck on?

if the secondary butterfly opens with similar resistance as the primary, does that mean it's okay and I don't have to disassemble it and clean it? Treeroot I think you know what I'm talking about, we had this discussion about filing the screw heads etc.

Shark Bait
03-23-2007, 07:34 PM
when removing the oil pan with the engine in the truck, the back lip is getting stuck on something...how do I get the oil pan off? Is it the tranny it's getting stuck on?


Might be the clutch cover. :confused:

nakman
03-23-2007, 08:02 PM
There is a small cover at the back that helps when you remove it, like Chris said. Is the pan loose? Remember the oil pump dealy is also sticking down inside it pretty far, close to the drain plug.

subzali
03-25-2007, 01:45 PM
yeah some kind of cover...29 bolts in all got the oil pan off - what a pain. But at least most of the cork gasket came off with the pan too, just a wee little bit of stuff to take off the block. Bottom of the pistons look okay, not really sure what I'm looking for and it's kinda tight down there :confused: . Gonna put it back together as soon as I get a new gasket.

Any opinions on the carb?

nakman
03-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Any opinions on the carb?

Sorry, I'm a bit of a carbocile.. I'll bump you to the top though! :)

And FJ Ben probably still has a pan gasket FS, he & I never did hook up last fall.. I was only going to get it in case someone needed one. and now you do!

Shark Bait
03-25-2007, 09:34 PM
I think I've got an extra cork pan gasket, too.

wesintl
03-25-2007, 10:17 PM
yeah some kind of cover...29 bolts in all got the oil pan off - what a pain. But at least most of the cork gasket came off with the pan too, just a wee little bit of stuff to take off the block. Bottom of the pistons look okay, not really sure what I'm looking for and it's kinda tight down there :confused: . Gonna put it back together as soon as I get a new gasket.

Any opinions on the carb?

do you have good oil pressure? you could at least plasti gauge the rod bearings.

subzali
03-26-2007, 12:49 AM
oil pressure is pretty good, that much I'm thankful for...at leats it's better than in my dad's 80 :eek:

treerootCO
03-26-2007, 03:33 AM
In most cases the secondaries are frozen shut and won't move at all. If yours moves you should be fine. If you wanted to you could remove the shaft from the baseplate and make sure it isn't damaged or rusted. If you do, you will need to find new screws though. The ones that hold the butterfly on usually break off even after you file the backside of the screw. The factory intentionally damages the threads so the screw won't end up in the engine.

subzali
03-26-2007, 08:09 AM
Sweet, thanks Rootster, that's what I thought. I think I'm just going to leave it and when I put it back together make sure my linkage is together properly - I have a feeling it isn't.

So just for fun check out one of my typical intake valves.
And next check out one of my exhaust valves. Sorry for the bad pics, but you get the idea.

Red_Chili
03-26-2007, 08:24 AM
Your motor thanks you!!!

subzali
03-26-2007, 08:30 AM
Oh forgot to mention that my valves that had the spring pieces stuck in them didn't even look like anything had happened - all the carbon was cleaned off too! :D There were probably really small indentations, and since the whole thing needs to be cleaned up I'm taking it to a shop today to get it done. I'm going to pay a little more attention to my engine from now on! :brick: :birf: :flamingo:

nakman
03-27-2007, 10:38 PM
Hey Matt, sort of a change in direction but what about this? http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=145164

subzali
03-27-2007, 11:34 PM
I just want my truck running again :(

Thanks Tim, but a 2F-E is a little too ambitious a project for me considering the current circumstances. I need to give my dad's truck back to him. I'm still debating a "Gertrude" style buildup for the future - 210+ hp is enviable - or doing a head swap at some point, but for now a valve job is good enough for me.