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Red_Chili
08-24-2007, 12:05 PM
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?p=44621#post44621

DaveInDenver
08-24-2007, 12:29 PM
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?p=44621#post44621
The ubiquitous 'they' is everywhere. It gets really hard to stay positive and engaged when it just keeps coming, eh? It's not just OHV, out of the blue, 'they' are trying to close the Continental Divide Trail to mountain bikes. 'They' are proposing closing lots of trails around Gunnison to bicycles. I can understand the opposition's stance, they have every right to their views as we do to ours. But it seems they have so many more friendly ears within the USFS, BLM, et al than us. Gotta keep after it!

Beater
08-24-2007, 01:31 PM
hopefully, more of THE organizations that use our lands will get together and sing kumbayah soon... IF the cyclists and hikers could ever see eye to eye (17 years as a cyclist btw) then the fight would get easier.

mtb's already can see the dirt bikers views, can see the ohv, can see the wheelers.. We just need to get hikers into the fold. Unfortunately, the problem is their are a lot of "casual" hikers, not "real" hikers who use trails, and most only go under 3 miles... REAL hikers don't want to lose their trails either.. there are just too few of them in the hardcore hiking realm compared to the casual out for a walk folks...

Red_Chili
08-26-2007, 10:22 PM
The hikers believe (mostly accurately) they have less impact. The formal groups of hikers would like us (the OHV community) to lose trail and road miles - thus, the 'quiet use' 'coalition' (note the quotes, it is a coalition of likeminded types. Diversity is so much easier when you are the same :lmao:).

The problem is much larger though, most groups feel they are more responsible, more mature, have less impact or are more in touch with nature than the other groups. This is not just the quiet use coalition of hikers and mountain bikers vs. motorized recreation of all sorts. You see it on the 4x4 boards talking trash about ATVs and dirt bikes, on the motorcycle boards talking trash about ATVs and 4x4s ... you get the idea.

Maybe the unity should start in the OHV community?