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AxleIke
11-18-2007, 10:18 PM
As many of you know, I had a "not so well welded" bumper on my truck at CM06. Being low on fundage at the time, (mostly due to transfer case gears and air lockers) I re-welded my old bumper to serve until i got the time and motivation to build a new rear bumper.

This is Phase 1. Basically structure. Some cosmetic grinding, but mostly just tacking, fitting, and solid-welding the whole thing.

I'm reusing my old trailer hitch brackets. They are 1/4 plate, and already custom cut and drilled to my frame. Plus, they have been super reinforced.

The main beam, lower wing plates, and forward brackets are all 3/16. The top wing tubes are 1/8 because i couldn't find 3/16 in the size tube I wanted. I'm confident it is strong enough. The tabs going to the frame brackets on the bumper are 3/8" uneven angle. Again, I wanted 3x6, and that was the thinest I could get.

The frame brackets are held on with 4, 1/2" G8 bolts, the bumper is held onto the frame brackets with 4 more, and the front wing support is bolted with the same.

I'm *hoping* I won't have any further embarrassing bumper issues. We'll see.

On to the pictures.

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A DIY bumper kit? :D

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2510.jpg

Lining up the main beam. This was the most time consuming part. Measure, move, remeasure, move, measure, adjust...ad nauseum.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2511.jpg

Finally got it straight. I also trimmed off the corners.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2512.jpg

Tacked on the upper part of the wings...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2515.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2516.jpg

Measuring for the wing-to-frame support, this table is pretty handy.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2517.jpg

All tacked up, ready for welding. I bolted everything together to hold the bumper rigid to avoid warping. I also went VEERRRRYYYY SLLLOOWWWWLY to the point of irritation on my part. But, no warpage was worth it.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2520.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2521.jpg

got scout?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2523.jpg

Phase 1 complete....Fully welded.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2526.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2528.jpg

Phase 2 will be adding the receiver hitch (recovery), as well as the cosmetic welding. Phase 3 will be tail light hoops, and paint.

Stay Tuned....

Uncle Ben
11-18-2007, 10:22 PM
Looks great Isaac!

Red_Chili
11-19-2007, 07:27 AM
Very very nice. I used receiver brackets initially as well, they work great.

One comment: if you bring the side wing supports to the frame forward of the receiver hitch brackets, instead of to the brackets themselves, you will eliminate the one thing that makes 4Runner bumpers flexy: rear frame C-channel flex. If you can use that forward attachment to the frame, that goes away almost entirely.

Uncle Ben
11-19-2007, 07:31 AM
Very very nice. I used receiver brackets initially as well, they work great.

One comment: if you bring the side wing supports to the frame forward of the receiver hitch brackets, instead of to the brackets themselves, you will eliminate the one thing that makes 4Runner bumpers flexy: rear frame C-channel flex. If you can use that forward attachment to the frame, that goes away almost entirely.


Hmmmm never heard of c-Channel flex in a Cruiser! :p: :lmao: :hill:

Jacket
11-19-2007, 08:54 AM
Very nice Isaac. As soon as you're done we can get started on mine. :hill:

Beater
11-19-2007, 08:59 AM
dude - it's just flame flex in an 80.. that rear frame section is a noodle on mine.

AxleIke
11-19-2007, 09:28 AM
Thanks for all the kind words...

Also, forgot to mention, but I will be cutting off the lower portions of the frame brackets, the parts that are sticking below the bumper in the last two pictures...


Very very nice. I used receiver brackets initially as well, they work great.

One comment: if you bring the side wing supports to the frame forward of the receiver hitch brackets, instead of to the brackets themselves, you will eliminate the one thing that makes 4Runner bumpers flexy: rear frame C-channel flex. If you can use that forward attachment to the frame, that goes away almost entirely.


I'll have to look into that...Although, where the wing support ties in, it is forward of the c chanel part. The bolt that goes through there goes through the fully boxed section...Not sure if that makes a difference, since it does tie to the reciever mount and not directly to the frame...

Red_Chili
11-19-2007, 09:51 AM
The idea would be to spread the mounting points. Think of where the bumper would pivot - most receiver mounts have about a 2-3" spread in the mounting area, if you can take your side wings and use them as structural components, and make that mounting bolt pattern spread over a couple of feet, you are golden. Then you can hang a spare on there without resorting to a brace like I had to.

I'm just lazy or I would reengineer mine as well. But it works well enough for now.

AxleIke
11-19-2007, 10:29 AM
I'm not following that...I could *maybe* go forward a bit, but a few feet would put it right into the tire and wheel well...

I won't be running a tire back there anyway...I'm not that good of a welder.

Red_Chili
11-19-2007, 11:37 AM
From what I see you are...
crude ASCII art, showing the bumper far left, the wings above and below, the receiver mounts inboard, and the additional connection between the wing tip and the frame, just behind the rear wheels:

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Red_Chili
11-19-2007, 11:38 AM
Aw crud, this forum software strips spaces. Ignore the dots above, they are in place of spaces.

Rezarf
11-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Looks GOOD Isaac! :thumb:

Drew

Red_Chili
11-19-2007, 04:28 PM
Hmmmm never heard of c-Channel flex in a Cruiser! :p: :lmao: :hill:
The only C channel is in the very rear, where the receiver hitches typically fasten... hey, come to think of it, exactly like the noodley hiney of an 80! :p::rolleyes:

Uncle Ben
11-19-2007, 05:49 PM
The only C channel is in the very rear, where the receiver hitches typically fasten... hey, come to think of it, exactly like the noodley hiney of an 80! :p::rolleyes:


Well if it's like an 80's hiney then it's perfect....leave it alone! ;):thumb: :bowdown::robbie:

Rezarf
11-20-2007, 09:20 AM
Sorry Isaac, had to do it... :lmao: :D :hill: :thumb:

AxleIke
11-20-2007, 09:29 AM
What i really love about those pictures is that in the second one, everyone is standing there with hands on hips looking at the bumper, and going, "huh, i don't think thats supposed to do that."

Yes, that is what we are trying to avoid.

Bighead
11-20-2007, 09:33 AM
What was going on in those pics? Were they trying to pull you back off the rock?

Rezarf
11-20-2007, 10:24 AM
Yeah, Issac's rear bumper was hung up on the rock, not letting him go up or down. The angle was really steep, and with this new bumper I bet he makes it no problem! :D

Jacket
11-20-2007, 11:00 AM
if its any consolation, when I was there a few weeks ago a Rubicon with front and rear lockers couldn't make that line either. Although he did manage to "sidestep" the wall toward the right and finally get up......

AxleIke
11-20-2007, 11:35 AM
What was going on in those pics? Were they trying to pull you back off the rock?

It was a case of "I'm young, and going to show off, and ooopppss".

I got up on the rock, lost traction, and slid down onto the rear bumper. I couldn't go either direction, so a tug was attempted, by wraping a strap around the rear bumper, since the hitch was inaccessable.

Turned out the bumper wasn't welded very well. (not my fault, so i saved a *little* face, but not much).

Thankfully, everyone was being very safe, and standing clear. so no injury occured.

AxleIke
11-25-2007, 10:20 PM
Update:

Nice enough day, though my toes still froze even with two pair of socks.

Got the hitch hole cut, the hitch tube drilled, with a minor hicup. Welded fully, with AWESOME penetration. The hicup occurred when I was super stupid, and bought the wrong sized drill bit, the bit I bought being too small. So, after much walleyeing, the pin will now slide into the hitch with zero issues. It was frustrating though, since the drill almost ripped my hands off on more than one occasion.

I also got the corners lopped off at a 45 deg angle, and capped, though there was some issue with grinding too much off on the driver side, so now I have a little dimple. :mad: Gotta fill it still.

I ground everything pretty smooth, and got the tops of the mounting tabs ground so my cosmetic strip (fills the gap between the tailgate and the bumper) will fit properly.

Now, for the million dollar question:

I'm looking at putting the tailpipe routed through the bumper. Basically, I have my exhaust cut off under the truck, and wired up to the driver side frame rail.

I am considering cutting a hole in the driver side wing, and welding a small exhaust coupler (found at every auto parts store ever) into the hole. I will then connect the hard pipe to the coupler via some flex tubing.

Heres what I like: It gets the exhaust out of the way, and protected (can't tell you how many times I've crushed it before).

Heres what I don't like: I'm worried about carbon residue getting all over my nice bumper (vain, I know). I'm also concerned about it not being symmetric (even more vain). I want it to look good in addition to being functional.

So, opinions? :confused:


On to the pics! Sorry there aren't many of the various steps. I was under a pretty good crunch to get this done before the sun set. Normally, I keep the camera outside with me, and I can snap a few here and there, but it was cold enough that the camera kept telling me the batteries were dead, even though they were brand new, so I had to keep it inside. I was only able to get a couple.

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Cutting the hitch hole

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2535.jpg

Leveling the hitch out.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2538.jpg

Welded in front and back. Front pictured

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2539.jpg

Finished with phase 2. Sitting on garage floor waiting to be loaded for the trip to Boulder.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2540.jpg

Close up of front of hitch.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2541.jpg

Corners cut. Purely cosmetic, but I was trying to make it look a LITTLE less like a box.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2542.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2543.jpg

Backside of the hitch.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2544.jpg

Rezarf
11-25-2007, 10:44 PM
Looks GREAT Isaac, keep up the good work bud!

Drew

AxleIke
11-25-2007, 11:15 PM
I called you, did you get my message?

Rezarf
11-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Here is an update on Isaac's bumper...

#1 Crazy man welding... Isaac

#2 He got wild with the bender.

#3 Tack welding...

Rezarf
11-28-2007, 10:23 PM
Where we ended up at the end of the night, this thing is looking good Isaac.

Rezarf
11-28-2007, 10:24 PM
Last one...

AxleIke
11-28-2007, 10:42 PM
Thanks man!!!

RockRunner
11-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Looking good, I really like the design of the bumper. Not to sure of the corner protection but that is just me. Are you planning on adding a tire carier?

AxleIke
11-29-2007, 12:31 AM
Thanks!

No, not doing a tire carrier. I have little tires, so they still fit inside just fine.

Yeah, The corners don't really show up as well in the pictures. They are also not gusseted yet, so that will also be different. I think they look really good in person, but the pics don't really do them justice.

Red_Chili
11-29-2007, 07:06 AM
No, not doing a tire carrier. I have little tires, so they still fit inside just fine.

Anybody wanna start a betting pool on just how long THAT will be true? :lmao:

AxleIke
11-29-2007, 09:42 AM
Hardy har har.

It will be true for a while at least.

I can add a carrier later if I choose, but I've got enough money into the front as it is, and I can't go bigger really without a solid axle swap. I'm pretty happy with it with just the 33's. I've yet to find a trail it couldn't do.

Rezarf
11-29-2007, 10:40 AM
Actually, I would put money on the fact that until there is a SAS, tires will stay this size. In fact, I have seen his tires shrink in the past two years :eek:

Drew

Red_Chili
11-29-2007, 11:03 AM
I've yet to find a trail it couldn't do.
I've yet to find a trail that my FEET couldn't do... but... :rolleyes::lmao:

Join the dark side. We have cookies, milk, and a plasma cutter over there in the corner.

AxleIke
11-29-2007, 01:10 PM
LOL

I know, I know. You aren't the only one pushing me to the dark side.

By trail it couldn't do, i meant, trail it couldn't do that had some chance of it getting through without body damage. It will never run BV carnage, or Indy.

I just can't justify the cost right now. 6k is a bunch to sink into a project, and thats not even figuring for the "unseen costs".

AxleIke
11-29-2007, 01:11 PM
Actually, I would put money on the fact that until there is a SAS, tires will stay this size. In fact, I have seen his tires shrink in the past two years :eek:

Drew

Thats true, but I actually kinda like the look better now than before. PIZZA CUTTERS!! :D

Red_Chili
11-30-2007, 07:55 AM
I just can't justify the cost right now. 6k is a bunch to sink into a project, and thats not even figuring for the "unseen costs".
It won't cost you $6k, not by any means. At least not leaf sprung.

AxleIke
11-30-2007, 10:52 PM
Ya, true. I'm willing to hold out for what I want, which is coils, and I'm pretty happy with it now.

Maybe someday.

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 01:45 PM
It has been finished.

EDIT: I like it more now. That last bit was edited out.

Essentially all i did was add trim and make an attempt at some "cool" gussets. A design flaw meant that no trim was added on the main beam, but I actually kind of like the look still. The gussets were a good idea, EDIT: I think the gussets will turn out pretty well after paint. They could have been bigger, but I like them.

I'm getting this thing coated flat black, which hopefully will hide some of my more salient screw ups. Mostly the scalloping of the grinder.

Thanks for watching! :thumb:

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Trim added, shot of the hoops
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2546.jpg

overall bumper
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2548.jpg

Passenger hoop
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2550.jpg

And the finished product. Sorry no driver side pics, but the truck was pulled in funny and it was snowing like the dickens outside.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2551.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2554.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2557.jpg

Rezarf
12-02-2007, 02:20 PM
Looks great Isaac! How about a close up on the gussets?

I would still vote semi gloss black. :D How are your ears with that much grinding! :eek:

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 02:45 PM
Heres the gussets:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2559.jpg

Jacket
12-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Well done Isaac. Probably the only person that will nice the "screw ups" is you.

What did you use to cut out the hitch hole? Cut off wheel?

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah. In talking with drew a bit, then going back out and looking at it for a while, I've decided that it looks a lot better than i thought when looking at it in the low light last night. I'll notice the issues, but not a ton.

I've also decided on semi gloss.

I did indeed use a cut off wheel, and highly recommend it. It works AWESOME.

FWIW, every cut on this bumper was done with a 4.5" grinder with a cut off wheel. Nothing was done by saw.

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 04:05 PM
Oh, and Drew, I saved my ears by wearing full on ear muff style protectors. They work wonders.

Rezarf
12-02-2007, 04:26 PM
I think it looks great, most people are their own worst critics. I bet it looks AWESOME in person, I say go semi-gloss, flat tends to make things unfinished.

Drew

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I think i was a bit too hard on myself. In re looking at it, I think it looks pretty good.

Semi Gloss it is!

neliconcept
12-02-2007, 05:43 PM
hmm may have you build my bumper too :) jk

looks sweet man, those hoops will help save that rear a lot i bet.

Red_Chili
12-02-2007, 07:59 PM
First class job. The 'go fast' holes in the gussets are of course absolutely required.

Just a thought on the corner protection: you need an additional leg to keep them from bending in. Otherwise you just have CDMs.

Rezarf
12-02-2007, 08:23 PM
CDM's :confused:

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 09:19 PM
First class job. The 'go fast' holes in the gussets are of course absolutely required.

Just a thought on the corner protection: you need an additional leg to keep them from bending in. Otherwise you just have CDMs.

Hmm, I'm not following that either. I can't really add much more, as the tailgate wont go down, and they are already close to the body.

Would it be on the inside of the hoop? sort of in between the legs.

Not sure if it makes a difference, but the tube is 1/8", and the gussets are 3/16".

They are also not designed as full hit, more like "kiss" protection. I would like to avoid ever hitting those, but they are there to provide a margin of safety.

Of course go fast holes are required. Those should give me at least 20 rwhp, right? Or is that my blinker fluid? I can't keep them straight!!! :lmao:

AxleIke
12-02-2007, 09:21 PM
hmm may have you build my bumper too :) jk

looks sweet man, those hoops will help save that rear a lot i bet.



Nah, you can't beat what jed puts out. Just slap one of those on there, and you'll be set.

Jacket
12-03-2007, 08:55 AM
I think it looks great, most people are their own worst critics. I bet it looks AWESOME in person, I say go semi-gloss, flat tends to make things unfinished.

Drew

Nah - I say get it chrome-plated!:lmao:

Uncle Ben
12-03-2007, 08:59 AM
CDM's :confused:

Crash Damage Multipliers

AxleIke
12-03-2007, 09:31 AM
Well, part of the effort was to avoid a jungle gym.

This isn't a rock crawler. It isn't likely to become one, but if it does, the bumper will get beefed.

I'm not actually too worried about CDM's. Here's why: Those of you who've seen the truck have seen the damage from a hit and run parking lot bump. Essentially my Driver rear fender was pushed in, and is wrinkled.

That alone is enough to total this thing. My insurance company rates my truck at a worth of 1300-1500 dollars. If any accident occurs, it would be cheaper to replace the entire quarter panel than to worry about any damage from the hoops.

All this isn't to say I don't appreciate the advice, I really want it. Just explaining my thinking.

Thanks again to all!

OH, AND THE MAIN REASON I'M POSTING: ITS AT POWDERCOAT!!!

Red_Chili
12-03-2007, 12:48 PM
You need a different insurance company!!

AxleIke
12-03-2007, 01:25 PM
I called yours.

When I told them how I'd heard of them, they ran away...Far, far away!!!!!

:D

RockRunner
12-03-2007, 01:44 PM
I have a question regarding the height of your bumper, in the last picture on the first page it shows the mounting brackets hanging pretty low. Is that correct or camera angle? Reason I ask is that I need to create a new rear bumper maybe and I need/want all the clearance I can get.

If it is correct that they are hanging low is there a reason for it or just your design. I like the whole bumper design especially the side panels. Another question, is the main part of the bumper as high as it can go before it would hit the tailgate?

I bet it turns out great when you get it back and mounted.

Red_Chili
12-03-2007, 01:47 PM
I called yours.

When I told them how I'd heard of them, they ran away...Far, far away!!!!!

:D
Nuh-uh.
I get to pay them more for a little while, they would be happy to take your money too. :lmao:
Seriously, Traveller's has been more than fair with me through the years, going far above and beyond, and I don't mind the slight raise in premium since the 'accident'.

AxleIke
12-03-2007, 02:37 PM
I have a question regarding the height of your bumper, in the last picture on the first page it shows the mounting brackets hanging pretty low. Is that correct or camera angle? Reason I ask is that I need to create a new rear bumper maybe and I need/want all the clearance I can get.

If it is correct that they are hanging low is there a reason for it or just your design. I like the whole bumper design especially the side panels. Another question, is the main part of the bumper as high as it can go before it would hit the tailgate?

I bet it turns out great when you get it back and mounted.

Ah, sorry, had to check a few pages farther on. Those brackets were cut to fit to the bottom. I just hadn't done it yet on the first page.

As for the tail gate, yes, it is as high as it can go. There is about 1/8" between the tailgate and the bumper when there is a 220 lb man sitting on the tail gate. That is as close as I wanted it to get. The thickness of the main beam is 4", which is just enough to give a good amount of area to weld in a standard receiver hitch. You could go with a thinner beam if you didn't want the hitch.

Heres what it looks like now, finished.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2557.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2554.jpg

RockRunner
12-03-2007, 08:05 PM
Looks great, I like the way it fits nice and tight. Did a great job, can't wait to see it in person.

As for me I will have to look elsewhere as i want more clearance. May just have to modify my tube bumper.

AxleIke
12-03-2007, 09:40 PM
Yeah, this definetly has WAAYYY less clearance than a tube bumper.

I like the tube bumpers, but just don't feel that they offer enough protection for DD trucks.

Plus, its not really needed, since I don't really wheel trails where the rear clearance is a deciding factor on me completing the trail.

Thanks though!

Unfortunately, It is very unlikely that this will be done in time for the meeting. But, for the next one!

bskey
12-03-2007, 10:21 PM
Man, great job! That looks nice! I'd love to get to the point where my welding skills are enough that I would trust myself with that job. What kind of welder are you using?

AxleIke
12-04-2007, 12:26 AM
Miller 175.

Rezarf
12-04-2007, 12:44 PM
Is it done? Is it done? :D

AxleIke
12-04-2007, 01:32 PM
I wish...

I'm pretty excited. I'm thinking Wed or Thurs being finished. We'll see.

AxleIke
12-06-2007, 11:28 PM
And Its DONE!!!

Sorry, no pics. I left my mem card at work where I downloaded the last set of pics. :(

I'll get em tomorrow when its on the truck.

However, I am EXTREMELY pleased. The powdercoat looks AMAZING. I will be posting a thread about the guy I used, as I am so unbelieveably pleased with his work and his price that I'd love to give him as much business as possible. Simply can't say enough good things about the place.

I have put black silicone on the seams on the insides of the bumper, to help protect against rust from water working its way up under the trim pieces. So, my whole place smells like gasket maker, which is a smell I detest. UGH!.

I'm well pleased.

AxleIke
12-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Here's the pics!

Bracketry

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2560.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2562.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2564.jpg

Bumper!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2565.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2566.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2567.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2570.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2571.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2572.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2573.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2574.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/AxleIke/IMG_2575.jpg

Bighead
12-08-2007, 05:19 PM
Looks great Isaac! :cheers:

AxleIke
12-08-2007, 06:19 PM
Thanks man!!

Uncle Ben
12-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Really a top notch job Isaac! :thumb::thumb:

AxleIke
12-08-2007, 08:39 PM
Thanks man!!

Final cost is just below 400. About 390 adding up receipts.

31 hours build time.

About 200 in gas.

Rezarf
12-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Nice bumper man! Seriously killer 40 in the background :D

Hulk
12-08-2007, 11:34 PM
Turned out really sweet! Nice job!

AxleIke
12-08-2007, 11:34 PM
Nice bumper man! Seriously killer 40 in the background

I KNOW!!!

Seriously, I blundered there. The 40 is stealing all my thunder!!!

LOL. I'm loving it more and more. Probably builder's criticism wearing off is all, but still.

AxleIke
12-08-2007, 11:35 PM
Hang on, my post was supposed to go above Matt's. Dang!!

Edit: Fixed it.

AxleIke
12-08-2007, 11:36 PM
Turned out really sweet! Nice job!

Thank you sir!!!

bskey
12-09-2007, 09:53 AM
Looks great Isaac! :cheers:
+1:thumb:

RockRunner
12-09-2007, 01:53 PM
Looks great, should be able to handle all the abuse you can dish out.

Rezarf
12-09-2007, 02:42 PM
This thing is beefy, I love it when you put something on that is designed to take the abuse away from your truck... and it feels "good" and heavy! I don't think we will have any more of the Fin's and Things incidents with this mammoth. :D

Red_Chili
12-09-2007, 05:09 PM
Yeah, but the first time he scrapes that pretty powdercoat on some rocks, he's gonna cringe... DAMHIK :lmao:


VERY nice!

Hulk
12-09-2007, 09:58 PM
Yeah, but the first time he scrapes that pretty powdercoat on some rocks, he's gonna cringe... DAMHIK

I must ask: How do you know?

AxleIke
12-10-2007, 12:24 AM
Thanks guys! :)

Yeah, but the first time he scrapes that pretty powdercoat on some rocks, he's gonna cringe... DAMHIK :lmao:


VERY nice!

That has occurred to me.

Perhaps we build these protection items, and make them nice, and the reason we damage trucks less isn't that the protection is better, but rather we try to avoid scraping up the protection :D LOL

corsair23
12-10-2007, 04:57 PM
Perhaps we build these protection items, and make them nice, and the reason we damage trucks less isn't that the protection is better, but rather we try to avoid scraping up the protection :D LOL

First, the bumper looks good!

Second, on protecting the "proctection items" that is SOOO true...I've even started thinking up ways to protect them :hill:....Something you could attach that would take the scrapes and bumps and would be easily replaced. Like teflon strips or something :lmao:

Uncle Ben
12-10-2007, 05:31 PM
First, the bumper looks good!

Second, on protecting the "proctection items" that is SOOO true...I've even started thinking up ways to protect them :hill:....Something you could attach that would take the scrapes and bumps and would be easily replaced. Like teflon strips or something :lmao:

Learn to drive! :eek:;):lmao:

corsair23
12-11-2007, 12:27 AM
Learn to drive! :eek:;):lmao:

That's why I try to follow you :thumb: :D

Uncle Ben
12-11-2007, 02:12 AM
That's why I try to follow you :thumb: :D
http://www.dinicartoons.com/forum/images/smilies/Yahoo/26.gif http://www.jeepinguy.com/dfmbs.gif :o :hill:

Red_Chili
12-11-2007, 06:34 AM
Exactly. You'll be waiting for him to fix his hub and R&P when he tries to fly that big Land Cruiser thingie...

:brick:

Red_Chili
12-11-2007, 06:35 AM
But seriously, that's why I've taken a shine to flap sanders and Hammerite. Ends up looking just like new. The tubing anyway...:lmao:

RockRunner
12-11-2007, 08:26 AM
Scratches tell a story, I know every scratch and bump I got on my 4runner. I wouldn't say that it is a badge of honer, just fun to talk about.

Scratches on bumpers etc are also the reason why I use 99 cent flat black paint, cheap and easy. I do understand your dilemma, you have a good looking unit there.

Uncle Ben
12-11-2007, 08:38 AM
Exactly. You'll be waiting for him to fix his hub and R&P when he tries to fly that big Land Cruiser thingie...

:brick:

Bill, Ya know I just did that so you could finally give me grief about breaking on the trail! :p: :lmao: :blah: