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subzali
12-12-2007, 07:07 AM
Cars.com link (http://www.cars.com/go/search/search_results.jsp?ct=112&tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&amid=&cname=&mdnm=Land+Cruiser&mknm=Toyota&rd=10000&ddrd=&zc=80235&makeid=47&modelid=428&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_47_%7CB-8000%7CD-_428_%7CN-N%7CR-10000%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-80235&aff=national&aff=national)

All the way down to about $5000 :eek:

Red_Chili
12-12-2007, 07:40 AM
Sort by distance, nearest first. Looks a lot different.

Shark Bait
12-12-2007, 07:51 AM
I had toyed with selling mine. Would you pay $7500? Red. 2nd owner, well maintained, 194k miles. OME 2 1/2 inch medium lift. Lightly 4-wheeled. :)

subzali
12-12-2007, 08:00 AM
I'm not sure if you're serious, but I'm not in the market for an 80. I will not go down THAT dark path ;)

Hulk
12-12-2007, 08:13 AM
I had toyed with selling mine. Would you pay $7500? Red. 2nd owner, well maintained, 194k miles. OME 2 1/2 inch medium lift. Lightly 4-wheeled. :)

What are you going to buy to replace it?

MDH33
12-12-2007, 08:31 AM
What are you going to buy to replace it?

He's going to start driving that nice 40. ;)

nakman
12-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Seeing Green Machine's posting reminded me just how much mine is probably worth.. :( oh well it's been a great journey, and it ain't over yet!

rover67
12-12-2007, 08:42 AM
i'll buy the pickup...

Shark Bait
12-12-2007, 08:43 AM
What are you going to buy to replace it?

Scion xB. :D

Rezarf
12-12-2007, 09:30 AM
Price is coming down, but the miles are getting HIGH! :eek:

Red_Chili
12-12-2007, 11:56 AM
The price one pays for the privilege I suppose...
7087

corsair23
12-12-2007, 12:18 PM
Check out this one!!

That is a LOT of 80 for the $$ :eek:

'97 FZJ80 AE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250197119003&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D250197119003%26fvi%3D1)

Red_Chili
12-12-2007, 12:42 PM
That's the STARTING bid... GreenMachine's is a better deal.

Uncle Ben
12-12-2007, 01:20 PM
Check out this one!!

That is a LOT of 80 for the $$ :eek:

'97 FZJ80 AE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250197119003&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D250197119003%26fvi%3D1)

That is one heck of a sweet deal! Nice grade stuff was used throughout! That would be a great deal up to around $15k!

Beater
12-12-2007, 02:12 PM
fyi - I bought mine with 147k, and it has 154 now, and I have had it for 18mos...

corsair23
12-12-2007, 02:32 PM
That's the STARTING bid...

Honestly I'll be surprised if the guy even gets a bid, we'll see. Plus you'd have to add probably $1000 to have it shipped out here due to the size. Mileage is high as well. But if someone was looking for a built rig, pretty much ready out the door...

I've been thinking about the price drop compared to say FJ40 pricing. Obviously the 80 isn't a classic like the 40 is, and mileage on a 40 is a pretty worthless thing to go on when buy a 30+ year old vehicle. Throw in engine swap difficulties in the 80 vs the 40, and all sorts of other issues and if I invested in vehicles I'd probably put my $$ on the 40 holding its value. Gas mileage wise, when built up they both get about the same (of course the 80 will carry a whole lot more stuff :))

Beater
12-12-2007, 02:58 PM
I could list the dollar amount on all mine as well, but honestly, whats the point. The suspension kit alone is 2300 or so with all the adjusters, the bumpers/sliders/tire carrier another 3k. Tires? 800.00. I paid 9500 or so for the truck.. please tell me I am not offering a deal here. I haven't even gotten to the interior mods... Cheap is relative.

Uncle Ben
12-12-2007, 03:01 PM
I could list the dollar amount on all mine as well, but honestly, whats the point. The suspension kit alone is 2300 or so with all the adjusters, the bumpers/sliders/tire carrier another 3k. Tires? 800.00. I paid 9500 or so for the truck.. please tell me I am not offering a deal here. I haven't even gotten to the interior mods... Cheap is relative.


Agreed totally! If I was in the market for a green trail 80 I would snatch that deal up in a flash!

nakman
12-12-2007, 03:03 PM
Green trail 80!? dem's fightin words buddy :rant:

Uncle Ben
12-12-2007, 03:17 PM
Green trail 80!? dem's fightin words buddy :rant:

OOps sorry......a trail 80 that is the rare and highly sought after Dark Emerald Pearl color!

corsair23
12-12-2007, 03:18 PM
I could list the dollar amount on all mine as well, but honestly, whats the point. The suspension kit alone is 2300 or so with all the adjusters, the bumpers/sliders/tire carrier another 3k. Tires? 800.00. I paid 9500 or so for the truck.. please tell me I am not offering a deal here. I haven't even gotten to the interior mods... Cheap is relative.

No arguments here - I didn't even pay attention to what the seller listed out price wise, just saw the list of stuff and knew he's invested alot just like you...You have a huge leg up on that other 80 though on the mileage factor! The difference in mileage for a person like me would equate to about 5 years of use. Unfortunately for sellers you just never get the $$ back out of a nicely built rig - So for a buyer, unless they just enjoy the build up process, it doesn't make sense to not buy an already built rig.

It is amazing what a difference a 12-18 months makes. I know last year when I was searching for a built, or stock, 80 with lockers they were unobtanium. Seems like now, not only is the supply greater but the demand is less. It can't all be due to fuel prices can it?

Beater
12-12-2007, 04:03 PM
no - I think the yuppies stay at home moms are finally feeling dated driving them around. I see a lot of new lx470's in my neighborhood directly replacing the lx450's and LC's.

Jenny Cruiser
12-12-2007, 05:59 PM
It is amazing what a difference a 12-18 months makes. I know last year when I was searching for a built, or stock, 80 with lockers they were unobtanium. Seems like now, not only is the supply greater but the demand is less. It can't all be due to fuel prices can it?

There are going to be some serious deals out there. :)

I'd like to give that turbo a go just to see what it's got. I wasn't all that impressed with the SC 80 I drove. It had a low boost pulley on it and only got 11mpg on a good day.

Red_Chili
12-13-2007, 06:53 AM
To which Uncle Ben replied....

7088

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 07:29 AM
To which Uncle Ben replied....



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Rezarf
12-13-2007, 09:22 AM
Gotta admit, after driving Ian's 100, the 80's have become less appealing for what we will need in a few years... a cruiser mini-van :D

Gotta love seeing the prices fall. Stacy and I have talked about finding a well built super high milage 80 and dropping the coin to have proffits put in an oil burner.

We'll see, I will probably get a ford mini-van instead. :hill:

Red_Chili
12-13-2007, 09:36 AM
It is soooooo good to be past those days... I get to watch my sons go through the manhood challenges of minivandom. :lmao:

Jacket
12-13-2007, 09:44 AM
Drew - I could see you driving around town in a 100 sipping a non-fat, two pump mocha with no whip cream. It's only a matter of time :p:

The current pricing has a lot to do with the supply I think. I look almost every day at CL and cars.com, and there's a pretty good number of 80's and early 100's out there for sale. The price will stabilize eventually as all Toyota trucks seem to do, but I wonder how low?

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 09:51 AM
It is soooooo good to be past those days... I get to watch my sons go through the manhood challenges of minivandom. :lmao:

x2! The minivan chapter was great to finish! http://www.dinicartoons.com/forum/images/smilies/Happy/jump.gif http://www.dinicartoons.com/forum/images/smilies/Embarrassed/hide.gif

FJBen
12-13-2007, 10:05 AM
I still think for a family wheeler/camper/expedition rig...the 80 can't be beat...and with the prices going down even more it's crazy.

My 40's built but won't carry people/family/tow well or large/drive huge distances anywhere near an 80.

The 100's do drive much nicer than the 80s...but they don't feel trucklike to me...the 80 still does.

Red_Chili
12-13-2007, 10:23 AM
4Runner. Just as capable (esp. SASed which is becoming a commodity item these days), better mileage, squeezes through trees better, nuff said.

Beater
12-13-2007, 10:29 AM
did you just call my butt big?

Hulk
12-13-2007, 10:40 AM
Obviously the 80 isn't a classic like the 40 is.

Not a classic... yet.

I've been thinking about the FZJ80 a lot lately. Here are some things to say for it:

Made only 5 years (1993-1997) (91-92 aren't the same truck).
Solid front axle
Dual Toyota electric lockers
A good combination of luxury and capability
Holds lots of cargo and people
Good curvaceous styling
The most capable Land Cruiser to ever drive off a U.S. Toyota dealer's lot in stock form (with lockers)
Not as prone to rust issues as earlier CruisersI think that the 80 series will become the second most iconic and sought-after Land Cruiser ever, after the 40. Its capabilities are legendary, and it was only made for 5 years.

FJBen
12-13-2007, 11:27 AM
Not a classic... yet.

I've been thinking about the FZJ80 a lot lately. Here are some things to say for it:

Made only 5 years (1993-1997) (91-92 aren't the same truck).
Solid front axle
Dual Toyota electric lockers
A good combination of luxury and capability
Holds lots of cargo and people
Good curvaceous styling
The most capable Land Cruiser to ever drive off a U.S. Toyota dealer's lot in stock form (with lockers)
Not as prone to rust issues as earlier CruisersI think that the 80 series will become the second most iconic and sought-after Land Cruiser ever, after the 40. Its capabilities are legendary, and it was only made for 5 years.

here here! :cheers:

Rezarf
12-13-2007, 12:05 PM
I think you have great points Matt-

I feel like the 80 was the last of the "real cruisers" we will see here in the US. Not to say the 100 or 200 won't perform, but the 80 was still able to really get the job done in stock trim.

The lockers made the 80's for sure.

subzali
12-13-2007, 01:52 PM
As UB can attest to, the front diff sure didn't! :lmao: Is there anything that can be done about that?

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 01:56 PM
As UB can attest to, the front diff sure didn't! :lmao: Is there anything that can be done about that?

Yep! Throw more money at it! :rolleyes: Just say "NO" to mini truck/Runner shiznit! :rant:

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 02:02 PM
4Runner. Just as capable (esp. SASed which is becoming a commodity item these days), better mileage, squeezes through trees better, nuff said.

I get enough bruises on my butt from outdoor activities why would I want more? Mini's don't just bruise the butt they will bruise your upper body too if there are two "Man size" adults in the front! :eek: Elbows freaking hurt! Go full size or go home! :thumb::hill: http://www.netshrine.com/vbulletin2/images/smilies/jab.gif

Hmmmmm....don't think I have ever heard a Cruiserhead say his truck "was just as capable as a Runner." Guess it's just what you wanna be when you grow up! :lmao::lmao:;)

nuclearlemon
12-13-2007, 02:11 PM
Good curvaceous styling
.

You were doing good until here.... :lmao:

Hulk
12-13-2007, 02:27 PM
You were doing good until here.... :lmao:

I've loved the look of the 80 series since the first day I saw one. That wasn't true of the 60 or 100 series -- they had to grow on me.

Loved the sliding windows. Loved the shape of the rear window. Loved the weird wide-at-the-bottom, narrow-at-the-top look. Still like the fender flares. Love the long hood -- it will never be mistaken for a minivan, like many SUVs these days.

corsair23
12-13-2007, 02:43 PM
As UB can attest to, the front diff sure didn't! :lmao: Is there anything that can be done about that?

Yep! Throw more money at it!


How about also not trying to get a 3 ton whale to fly :eek: :D

DaveInDenver
12-13-2007, 02:48 PM
Blah, blah, blah. It's common knowledge why the mini is best. Hilux Hilton. Rollin' Ritz.

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 02:50 PM
How about also not trying to get a 3 ton whale to fly :eek: :D


Actually they fly very well! Gotta work on the landing though! :rolleyes: http://www.dinicartoons.com/forum/images/smilies/Characters/flm18.gif

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 02:56 PM
Blah, blah, blah. It's common knowledge why the mini is best. Hilux Hilton. Rollin' Ritz.


My point exactly....you can park and camp or you can wheel to camp!

http://www.overlandexperts.com/images/general/land_cruiser.jpg

DaveInDenver
12-13-2007, 02:56 PM
Actually they fly very well! Gotta work on the landing though!

Speaking of flying, seen this?
http://www.break.com/index/drunk-redneck-jumps-his-suzuki.html

Uncle Ben
12-13-2007, 03:00 PM
Speaking of flying, seen this?
http://www.break.com/index/drunk-redneck-jumps-his-suzuki.html

We did here (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showpost.php?p=53384&postcount=1).

Kids....ya send 'em off to school for an edjukation and .....:rolleyes::hill:

subzali
12-13-2007, 03:16 PM
Dave, weren't you trying to sell your Wildernest at some point? :hill:

DaveInDenver
12-13-2007, 03:32 PM
We did here (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showpost.php?p=53384&postcount=1).

Kids....ya send 'em off to school for an edjukation and .....:rolleyes::hill:
It's hard to look like I'm working and keep up with threads. Geez. Oh, it's spelled edjuMAkation.

DaveInDenver
12-13-2007, 03:34 PM
Dave, weren't you trying to sell your Wildernest at some point? :hill:
Nope. Did think seriously about selling (or parting) the truck when the engine went south. I would have gone with a basic Taco and stuck the 'Nest on that. I'm a pretty big advocate of the 'Nest, being that I buy and rehab them when I find a cheap one. I'm ahead by about $500 in overall 'Nestitude funds, I think I've turned over 4 now.

Red_Chili
12-14-2007, 08:49 AM
Hmmmmm....don't think I have ever heard a Cruiserhead say his truck "was just as capable as a Runner." Guess it's just what you wanna be when you grow up! :lmao::lmao:;)
That's cuz of the cumulative effects of exhaust in some cruisers!

Cruiserheads don't admit other vehicles exist, that's why!:lmao:

Uncle Ben
12-14-2007, 11:16 AM
That's cuz of the cumulative effects of exhaust in some cruisers!

Cruiserheads don't admit other vehicles exist, that's why!:lmao:

They do exist....thats why Christo puts the big tow points on the rear bumper! :eek::p::lmao:

Red_Chili
12-14-2007, 12:01 PM
It's hazardous towing out cruisers backwards, though! :lmao:

Uncle Ben
12-14-2007, 12:03 PM
It's hazardous towing out cruisers backwards, though! :lmao:

Yep but thats the only way you can get close to one! :p:

motoloco
12-16-2007, 02:55 PM
The 80 series landcruiser were THE best built MOST capable 4wd EVER to be sold in the us. NO one can argue that point, other toyota's are built well but not like a cruiser, that said, runners and mini's CAN be built to the the best trail dedicated rigs out there. I like the 91-92's best especially when they have a 325hp gm 6.0:D

Red_Chili
12-16-2007, 09:50 PM
Mine is not trail dedicated. And IIRC I passed a few 80s on Vail Pass on the way back from Moab...

motoloco
12-17-2007, 10:15 AM
Redchili, wana race up vail pass?:D

wesintl
12-17-2007, 10:37 AM
Mine is not trail dedicated. And IIRC I passed a few 80s on Vail Pass on the way back from Moab...

The chili with a swapped engine vs an 80 with a swapped engine would be fair.

I might be game and I didn't need to swap the engine... :lmao: a little more boost and a little more fuel on the fire. :bowdown:

Uncle Ben
12-17-2007, 10:52 AM
Redchili, wana race up vail pass?:D

Rut ro........it's been fun up till this statement. While performance enhanced trucks are fun to slap down unsuspecting boulevard 4 wheelers the line gets real thin! If you want to wheel and be respected in the Toyota community than I suggest calling out someone for a blacktop race stays on a import racing forum! We speak trail here amigo! :rant:

subzali
12-17-2007, 11:26 AM
Unless you're ice racing ;)

Red_Chili
12-17-2007, 11:40 AM
This was what I was responding to:
The 80 series landcruiser were THE best built MOST capable 4wd EVER to be sold in the us. NO one can argue that point, other toyota's are built well but not like a cruiser, that said, runners and mini's CAN be built to the the best trail dedicated rigs out there. I like the 91-92's best especially when they have a 325hp gm 6.0:D
I was arguing that point. So apparently, SOMEONE CAN argue the point, and cogently I might add.

IMHO the fastest truck up Vail Pass is ... um ... the fastest truck up Vail Pass. If that is a good vitamin V substitute for you, well, goodonya. But if a truck can do well going up Vail Pass, which is what I was claiming, do well as a daily driver, and do well on the trail - at least as well as an 80 give or take, depending on the particular trail conditions - then that rather undermines your allowance that minis can make good dedicated trail rigs now, doesn't it?!?! That was the context in which I was speaking.

The 80 is not THE best built MOST capable 4wd EVER to be sold in the US. Neither is the 4Runner. But both are among the very best, depending on individual needs and preferences, and individual builds will vary on that scale.

I happen to think turbo BJs are the best built most capable 4wds, myself... :lmao:

Red_Chili
12-17-2007, 11:42 AM
The chili with a swapped engine vs an 80 with a swapped engine would be fair.

I might be game and I didn't need to swap the engine... :lmao: a little more boost and a little more fuel on the fire. :bowdown:
Um... easy there, Turbo, same dealio... you might as well have swapped the motor.:hill:

Boostboy.:rolleyes::cool:
And... FWIW, my drivetrain, though not original to 1987, is all stock 4Runner d00d!

just not all from the *same* 4Runner... shhhh...

motoloco
12-17-2007, 08:10 PM
Thats funny, I have never seen a BJ40 for sale NEW in the us:thumb: If you are a little fella with no camping gear, dirtbike gear, snowbaording gear, or freinds, a runner would be a great all time rig. thats why I have a FJ40, FJ80, cummins diesel, AND a 97 runner. I have had (7) fj40's (4) 80's and numerous runners and mini's... still the best "all around" is the 80 hands down. cant argue with someone who has tired the ALL, try as you may:beer:

wesintl
12-17-2007, 08:26 PM
I happen to think turbo BJs are the best built most capable 4wds, myself... :lmao:

:blush: I gotta find a turbo smilie... :rolleyes:

I think i did get a little excited about my newfound power. I'm just hoping to pass perry ;) and all the dirty hippies in their busses :hill:

subzali
12-18-2007, 07:14 AM
smelly river rats...



:hill:

Red_Chili
12-18-2007, 08:50 AM
Thats funny, I have never seen a BJ40 for sale NEW in the us:thumb: If you are a little fella with no camping gear, dirtbike gear, snowbaording gear, or freinds, a runner would be a great all time rig. thats why I have a FJ40, FJ80, cummins diesel, AND a 97 runner. I have had (7) fj40's (4) 80's and numerous runners and mini's... still the best "all around" is the 80 hands down. cant argue with someone who has tired the ALL, try as you may:beer:Glad you are happy with your choices. Happy for you. :rolleyes: