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nakman
12-11-2005, 10:37 PM
Anyone have any experience with the stuff that Marlin makes for the 80's? Like for starters, he's got inner axles listed at $119 each http://www.marlincrawler.com/80series.html This winter I'm going back inside my front axle, to do all the PM work but also take care of the "grooves" that I've got in both inner axles, from the inner axle seal spring rubbing on there for probably 6 years thanks to the PO.. :mad:

Was thinking this whole time of sending them out to be machined, then having them "sleeved," but now I'm wondering for $100 why not just get new ones? Hard to think that machining would be much less than that.. plus I'd have the stockers as a spare. Some of the other stuff on his site has me intrigued as well. What about those chromoly birfs?

wesintl
12-11-2005, 10:52 PM
I should stay out of stuff I don't know about... :eek: then again I'd never post :D

Longs have birfs.. Does he not have inner axles for 80's? :confused:

powderpig
12-12-2005, 08:09 AM
You can have for that price the stock ones from Dan (or real close). I do not know about the Marlin ones, but most every thing he does is good quality. The bobby long ones are a nice piece and Have installed a couple sets with the BL chromo birf's. All nice quality. Hope this helps later robbie

nakman
12-12-2005, 08:30 PM
Well, I thought OEM birfs cost a lot more than that. Longs are the best out there, but a little more money, actually not that much more though. And he's got inner axles too http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/

How many splines to I have? 27?

60wag
12-12-2005, 09:26 PM
People run Longfields in 80s? I thought Long's process detempered the birf a bit to make it less likely to crack but also made it wear faster - no big deal for a part time 4wd truck. Do the last long enough in full time 4wd? Maybe I'm confusing it with one of the other birfs out there.

Uncle Ben
12-13-2005, 12:10 AM
People run Longfields in 80s? I thought Long's process detempered the birf a bit to make it less likely to crack but also made it wear faster - no big deal for a part time 4wd truck. Do the last long enough in full time 4wd? Maybe I'm confusing it with one of the other birfs out there.

Bobbys 80 Birfs are Chromemoly, not cryoed steel. :bowdown: :bowdown: Longfield's

powderpig
12-13-2005, 08:34 AM
First you start out talking about axles then you switch to birf's. Tim being a dad getting to you? The axles are similar in price, the birf are cheaper from Bobby, yes the chromoly ones. The ones from toyota are a bit spendy. The quality looks great from Boddy, the spine count you want is 30 I beleive, not 27. good luck with your choice. later robbie

nakman
12-13-2005, 06:15 PM
I really only need the axles.. and I use that term "need" loosely here. Do you guys agree that buying new axles is better/cheaper than having my current ones machined? I think it is.. especially when I factor in a groovy set of spare axles.. which I suspect Hulk will appreciate some day. ;)

Hulk
12-13-2005, 07:54 PM
I really only need the axles.. and I use that term "need" loosely here. Do you guys agree that buying new axles is better/cheaper than having my current ones machined? I think it is.. especially when I factor in a groovy set of spare axles.. which I suspect Hulk will appreciate some day. ;)

That's me, axle-snappin' Matt. Guilty as charged!:D

Red_Chili
12-16-2005, 03:24 PM
By all means upgrade the axles. I'd bet you really aren't talking much difference all said and done, and chromo axles will last longer than your truck. Mebbe. Pretty darn long, anywho.

So you don't think you 'need' Longfields, eh? You might feel differently after you bust a birf at 4:30 on a winter afternoon in the back country, right before an impending cold front. Or late in the afternoon waaaaay out in Moab backcountry, looking at a night with only a little water. Or....

You get my drift. I bet the missus will too, if you take my meaning...;)

nakman
01-03-2006, 05:36 PM
Well, I spoke with Bobby Long today, and his axles won't work. They don't have the long spline on the inside for the locker gear.. good thing I thought to ask! I guess everyone who upgrades to Longfield axles has an ARB? :confused:

So I'm going to call Marlin tomorrow. Anyone know of another option?

Beater
01-03-2006, 05:58 PM
Have them made. That's what we did on rovers to run dana 60 and yota hybrids.

powderpig
01-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Tim just run the chromo from bobby and stock axles. I have not seen a stock axle brake in front. Except I think christo with his 39.5 tires. It should be a good combo. Order them form dan and I am sure the price is good. later robbie

Rzeppa
01-03-2006, 08:07 PM
Heh. With the reverse cut front 8", I broke my carrier before the axles or birfs let go. But then that was the "2 pinion" open version rather than the "4 pinion" locker version. The Aussies told me the the 4 pinion was a lot stronger. But few would argue that when you upgrade one component, you simply move the breakage to the next weaker component.

I was chatting with Jerry Nichols, and he was building a rig for a customer with chromoly axles and longfields, but warn locking hubs. I was astonisished until I heard the reasoning, that the hubs become the "fuse" and since they are so accessible they are much easier to fix in the field. Made sense to me.

nakman
01-03-2006, 08:17 PM
Ok, but again I don't want to upgrade my birfields.. too much $$, just the axles. All I need to do is resolve my "axle groove" issue, and since replacing the inner axles is assumed to be the same cost as getting the existing ones machined and sleeved, and perhaps a little stronger, then it makes sense to me that I may as well upgrade them to chromoly, since the cost is about the same. I'd rather not buy brand new stock axles for what chromoloy ones would have cost, but it looks like that may be my only option if Marlin doesn't have any good news for me tomorrow.

Jeff I've heard the same "fusible link" argument before, I think it's a good one. Lots easier to fix when you don't have to pull that spindle (and the mess behind it) off on a trail. Hope I never learn that first hand, but we'll see..

nakman
01-04-2006, 04:06 PM
Ok, Marlin Crawler does not carry Chromoly axles for the 80 series. They suggest trying CV Unlimited.

Beater
01-04-2006, 05:38 PM
Ok, Marlin Crawler does not carry Chromoly axles for the 80 series. They suggest trying CV Unlimited.

call moser. they will make them for you, and surpisingly inexpensive.

At worst, you might have to send them a stocker. which they will return.

j

nakman
01-04-2006, 05:53 PM
Thanks. I shouted "Hey Moser" out of my window, but no one answered.. do you have any other contact info? :)

Beater
01-04-2006, 07:05 PM
Thanks. I shouted "Hey Moser" out of my window, but no one answered.. do you have any other contact info? :)
http://www.moserengineering.com/

got google?