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nakman
12-30-2007, 07:47 PM
An architect friend of mine was over at the house today, helping me install the kitchen faucet. He told me of this "Paul Harvey endorsed" heating system called Eden Pure, which heats using infared technology? Could be one of the worst web sites out there, but here http://www.edenpure-heater.com/ if you don't want to click, here are their highlights:

Infrared Heat is Therapeutic - Quartz infrared heater produces healthy infrared heat waves which promote improved cardiovascular circulation and all the other health benefits associated with infrared saunas and other infrared appliances.
Plus, you get all the other great benefits that come from using Infrared Heat to heat your home.
http://www.edenpure-heater.com/images/arow.gifInfrared Heaters Reduces Energy Consumption by 35% to 50%.
http://www.edenpure-heater.com/images/arow.gifInfrared Heaters Maintains Balanced Temperatures from Floor to Ceiling without the noticeable "cold pockets" common in Baseboard Heating Systems
http://www.edenpure-heater.com/images/arow.gifInfrared Heaters Promotes Healthier, Cleaner Air. Infrared Heaterss destroy bacteria, virus, mold, mildew and other organic organisms that cause respiratory distress, colds and flu's. They are the perfect heating source for your home. Infrared Heaterss Eliminate Contamination that existing forced air heating systems, wood stoves, or kerosene space heaters cannot eliminate
http://www.edenpure-heater.com/images/arow.gifInfrared Heaters is a Safe Source of localized heat that cannot burn or harm pets, children, or furniture. Infrared heaters do not give off solar radiation like conventional radiant heaters or dishes.
http://www.edenpure-heater.com/images/arow.gifInfrared Heaters Heats Comfortably and Economically. Its portability allows you to heat only the areas of your choice. You use less electricity to produce the same amount of heat with a infrared heater.
http://www.edenpure-heater.com/images/arow.gifInfrared Heaters is Designed to Last 15 - 20 Years or more!


I can't tell if the "refurb" models are the same technology or not.. guess I will call them. But I'm in the market for a better space heater for our son's room anyway, and heck one of these could heat the whole house according to the web site. Anyone have one? Heard of this? :beer:

Romer
12-30-2007, 11:05 PM
Let us know when . . . . . "you get the REST of the story."


That's a Paul Harvey joke if you haven't heard him.

corsair23
12-31-2007, 12:07 AM
Tim,

I'd be interested in hearing how it works if you end up going that route :thumb:. Our Master Bedroom is bitter cold (someday builders will figure out how to evenly heat a home I hope). We spent a bazillion $$ replacing all the windows in our home and our utility bill went UP :rant:

Gotta do something besides resorting to sleeping in seaters :hill:...

I've also looked into ceiling fans that have heating elements built into them that are supposed to heat a room for cheap...Can't remember the name of them now but if you're interested and the kiddo has a ceiling fan in his room let me know and I'll get you the name of the manufacturer.

powderpig
12-31-2007, 06:12 AM
Hey Tim:
I would google this some more. I did and found some interesting threads on some different forums. Basically, the most efficent form of electric heat is one that converts the electrticty to heat with no lose. On some of the forums I found by googleing, discuss this. How can you get more from less, or create more heat from less electricty. Any how I was almost ready to spend the money when I read a post from a guy that worked for the company that bought out Eden pure(it is also marketed under a few other names in different countries). Any how he was not real happy with the ethics of the company and what they said to get people to buy there products(even the eden pure heaters). Any how the bulbs are not cheap if you need to replace them. It finally came down to cost vz benifit for me. It was cheaper to get a couple of 35 dollar heater that use up to 1500w and work with those and save the extra money to pay for the electric. I ended up wit some from Costco that have freeze guard and a blower to move the air. they are digital and turn them selves on and off depending on what you have them set on. I do beleive that the Eden pure is a scam and do not work that well. You will need to have the house warm the house first. Read the whole intructions to see the fine wording on use. any how good luck on your choice. Catch you later Robbie

Red_Chili
12-31-2007, 07:17 AM
I have vowed to myself that whenever a talk show host or news guy endorses a product, to avoid it like the plague. If an industry expert endorses it, I spring for it.

I have happily not followed this vow with turducken ordering however! :lmao: Then again, John Madden would be an industry expert, wouldn't he? (judging by his gut)

nakman
12-31-2007, 08:46 AM
Well I figured this was too good to be true, good info, thanks Robbie. I will do some more searching, but do you have a link handy for where you found that? If not I'll eventually stumble across it..

powderpig
12-31-2007, 10:35 AM
I will look for the links, I may have the forum link stored some where. McGunkin here in boulder has one on the shelf, after I found the info I found. I found the one at McGunkins. Looks nice, but still a lot of money. Later Robbie

Hulk
12-31-2007, 10:58 AM
I put some baseboard heaters in the front two bedrooms in our house. The rooms are over the garage, so they were always cold. The heaters run on 220v. I also installed thermostats for each room, so that the heaters heat only that room with the door closed. We run them at night so the kids don't freeze.

I really thought my electric bill was going to go through the roof, but it barely made a blip. I'm now a huge fan of electric baseboard heat. Another benefit: it's completely silent.

nakman
12-31-2007, 11:03 AM
I bought an electric baseboard at the Depot and took it back, you couldn't even burn your hand on it, let alone heat a room. I tried it in my 12x16 shed and it raised the temp 1 after 1.5 hours... from 48 to 49, big whoop. It wasn't 220 though, so obviously inferior. I don't think I can run 220 everywhere, as I don't have the room in the breaker box.

and it didn't take long to find negative reviews on the Eden Pure http://www.infomercialratings.com/product/edenpure_heater_reviews

and http://www.wcpo.com/content/news/localshows/dontwasteyourmoney/story.aspx?content_id=7527da3d-ad3f-423a-933a-e5dcde00b12f



sigh...

Hulk
12-31-2007, 11:36 AM
I think 110v baseboard heaters are worthless. The 220v heaters will turn your room into a sauna. There's a reason that most hot tubs are 220!

Red_Chili
12-31-2007, 11:41 AM
I don't think I can run 220 everywhere, as I don't have the room in the breaker box.
Run a 220V subpanel, problem solved?

Maddmatt
12-31-2007, 12:37 PM
I've got an unused space heater in my garage that's yours if you want it. 110 volt. Oil filled, very quiet. Looks like this one, but its a few years old. http://www.heater-home.com/product/157.aspx

Gets really hot, but no open flames or exposed heat elements. I've used it in the garage in sub-zero temps, and it brings its immediate area from frost bite cold to simply mind numbing. Used inside in the kids rooms in our old house it kept them warm enough that we would turn it off from time to time. I bet it would keep one bedroom at 60 or above no matter how cold the rest of the house dropped. Let me know if you want it, I'm trying to purge stuff.....

You will need a brick to level it, as I broke off one of the wheels.

nakman
12-31-2007, 01:11 PM
cool, I'll take it thanks!