View Full Version : Supercharger? We don't need no stinkin' supercharger...

02-25-2008, 05:53 PM
Who needs to pay big $$ for a supercharger when you can go this route?

Toyota Performance Chip - 90+ HP and 25+ mpg (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFORMANCE-CHIP-TOYOTA-LAND-CRUISER-90-08-FUEL-SAVER_W0QQitemZ250219044826QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250219044826)

2 in 1 Toyota Performance Chip - 60+ HP and 20 mpg (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2in1-PERFORMANCE-CHIP-TOYOTA-LAND-CRUISER-1990-2008-07_W0QQitemZ250219196958QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250219196958)

Looks like for less than $30 I'm cruisin' in style :D

Uncle Ben
02-25-2008, 06:18 PM
do it! First tank of fuel will pay for it! :thumb: :rolleyes:

02-25-2008, 06:35 PM
Are these just total rip offs?

02-25-2008, 08:16 PM
usually, they are the real deal on obd II vehicles. For obd I, the gains are usually minimal as there is just not that much mapping there.


02-25-2008, 08:33 PM
Hey that first one offers a money-back guarantee Jeff, go for it! :)

Shark Bait
02-25-2008, 08:44 PM
usually, they are the real deal on obd II vehicles. For obd I, the gains are usually minimal as there is just not that much mapping there.

So are we I or II? :rolleyes:

02-25-2008, 08:57 PM
So are we I or II? :rolleyes:

Some 1995 were OBDII, all were OBDII in 1996. You can look on the sticker of your hood if you aren't sure if your 95 is OBDII.

Shark Bait
02-25-2008, 09:12 PM
You try it Jeff, and report back the results! :D

02-25-2008, 09:15 PM
There is no way that ANY chip can give 90hp on a normally aspirated Toyota engine. OB1 or 2. You will be lucky to see 5hp. It is a scam for sure.

02-25-2008, 09:27 PM
yeah, if it were a "good chip" you'd see some hp. not 90 on an N/A engine unless the factory tune was just super crappy (which i doubt)..... and you'd have to run premium fuel.

I wouldn't put an ebay chip in my lawnmower though(figure of speach guys).. go with a reputable company that has the history. cheap chips are risky...

02-25-2008, 10:06 PM
Can I get my blinker fluid there too?

02-25-2008, 10:44 PM
Here's one from Jet (http://accessory.accessoriesgiant.com/basket.php?makeid=25&modelid=341&year=1996&partid=20791&brandid=4046&skipped_brand=true) for $311.

They also have a cool performance monitor (http://accessory.accessoriesgiant.com/basket.php?makeid=25&modelid=341&year=1996&partid=84&brandid=4413&skipped_brand=true).

02-26-2008, 12:58 AM
Can I get my blinker fluid there too?

Blinker fluid is no longer available due to its "toxic" nature that causes disposal concerns and clean up issues in the even of an accident.

However, last I read blinker powder is still readily available :D

02-26-2008, 01:04 AM
Here's one from Jet (http://accessory.accessoriesgiant.com/basket.php?makeid=25&modelid=341&year=1996&partid=20791&brandid=4046&skipped_brand=true) for $311.

Hmmm...10x the cost and they don't even list the potential HP gains, they don't offer a money back guarantee, AND you have to ship them your ECU to modify?

Nope, my $$ is on the $30 unit...Wonder if the wife will notice the improvement after I test it in her 80 :rolleyes: :lmao:

Uncle Ben
02-26-2008, 07:58 AM
This thread is talking about two different animals. The cheap ebay "performance enhancement" is just that...."cheap." All those do is trick the engine into thinking it's cold out so the enrichen the fuel supply. Slight gain in performance and the theory af better mileage is if you have more power you use less throttle. Basically if you notice and like how your truck runs on a cold morning before your engin bay is heated up you might find some value in this gimic! The Jet module is real but it is also generic. It is remapped but very mildly. You will probably gain some seat of the pants improvement but kinda pricey for what you get. If your considering the remapped module you should look into Land Tanks trick MAF! It will yeald you as much (possibly more) across the board gain than the mildly remapped module! Remapping is the key to dramatic power increases but since each rig is different so is the remapping unique!

02-26-2008, 08:24 AM
I was SO hoping someone would point that out. The eBay units are essentially a potted resistor. It throws off the temperature sensor input to the EFI. Works the same on OBDI or OBDII in that case.

I just love the explanations on their eBay sites. Yeah, the manufacturers were forced to go lean to meet MPG requirements. But "use my module and get 90+ HP and still have the same or better MPG".

They really ought to teach logic in schools again. Especially the principle of self-refutation.

My Buell can be remapped using the same stock EFI module for marginal gains and measurable MPG improvements IF the intake and exhaust are opened up to take advantage of the increased flow, all using free software and a $60 cable (NOT hyped on eBay, just built by likeminded enthusiasts, no snake oil), and IF the user has a clue. Otherwise, of course, the bike will eat itself if improperly programmed. I only wish the trucks could be similarly accessed and reprogrammed. Bikes often duck under the radar in configuration.

02-26-2008, 01:37 PM
This thread is talking about two different animals.

Nah, this thread was just for fun, and a joke - Mostly because I suffer from Supercharger envy :hill:

But it has caused some enlightening discussion :thumb: - What amazes me is the number of people that buy these "chips" on ebay, at least according to the feedback ratings. I guess hope springs eternal for many and for $30 or less they figure no big loss, knowing all along it is pretty much a scam. Just for kicks I sent the seller a question asking to see the dyno report since their auction clearly states that the chip is dyno proven :rolleyes:

02-26-2008, 02:37 PM
right, the chip for my w8 will get me 15 hp on pump gas, that is less than 6% gain... normal on obdII is about 6~10%

Jenny Cruiser
02-27-2008, 04:03 PM
My R32 GTST was "chipped" with intake and exhaust mods. It made a big difference on low end performance, but nearly cut my KPL in half. I've had powercommanders on most of my bikes with custom maps. Mostly top end gains though.

What does Landtanks MAF cost?