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Jethro
03-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Wow what a trip!

Friday: Metal Masher and Cliffhanger
Saturday: Steel Bender and Wipe Out Hill
Sunday: Recovery and Winching training. Then a very nasty trail called I-70

Very big thanks to Cheeseman and Robbie

Took pictures:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Bruce.Westlund/MOAB_FEB08

leiniesred
03-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Man, that was some serious wheeling. Think about it, yesterday, we ran more trails than most people run during all of cruise moab!

Thank you to Robbie and Cheeseman for putting this together. I tried to be in learning mode and not drive the truck mode. I had no idea that the "eaiser" trails can be that much fun!

Images:

leiniesred
03-02-2008, 08:32 PM
5 more. mostly from 7 mile

leiniesred
03-02-2008, 08:33 PM
5 more images mostly from 7mile and uranium arch.

leiniesred
03-02-2008, 08:42 PM
RUDY! What are you doing out of your truck?

Crash
03-02-2008, 09:06 PM
Other than a drive home today, it appears to have been a blue bird of a trip weatherwise with some involved training to go along with the fun. Great pics with more to come, I hope.

Inukshuk
03-02-2008, 09:09 PM
Glad to hear it was great! I was thinking about you guys all weekend. When 3PM Friday hit and I was still hard at work and exhausted, my better judgment said "don't get in your truck and drive 5 hours."

I may try to head out next weekend for a fix. My bags are still sitting in the garage all ready to go.

Inukshuk
03-02-2008, 09:10 PM
How was the off-camber slab on Seven Mile Rim?

timmbuck2
03-02-2008, 09:13 PM
my pics

http://picasaweb.google.com/timmbuck2/MoabPreRun2008

thanks Greg and Robbie....and everyone else for all the great spots, advice, etc. I havd a great time and can't wait for Cruise Moab!!!!

LiveRust
03-02-2008, 09:39 PM
glad to see you guys are making it back ok. We hit the storm on our way back to Salt Lake last night. Highway 6 was closed with us in it. they made us wait to be escorted out behind snow plows.

We had a nice day on Steel Bender. It was only my brother in law's second time out in his j**p, and my first time getting my 4 runner out. We had a good time and made it through without too much carnage. Some dents and scrapes to rear bumpers and one flat tire/ valve stem.

Nice to meet up with you and hope to see you all on the trails again soon.

Troy


couple pics from steel bender yesterday.

RicardoJM
03-03-2008, 07:19 AM
Wow. Looks like it was a busy trip with lots of opportunity to learn stuff. The pictures are great. I've not ever been to Moab, but it reminds me a bunch of the area around the San Juan river below Navajo Dam in northern New Mexico.

timmbuck2
03-03-2008, 09:28 AM
a few faves

Uncle Ben
03-03-2008, 10:05 AM
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/attachment.php?attachmentid=8076&stc=1&d=1204561711

Cool! It's nice to see that Cheeseman got to do some drivin' too! :eek: :lmao::lmao::lmao: :hill:

RockRunner
03-03-2008, 12:13 PM
Thanks to Greg and Robbie for setting this up and showing us what and what not to do. I feel far more comfortable in my ability to lead some of the medium type trails as long as I don't get lost. Unfortunately I had to leave before the recovery class but will make it up when the next one is set up.

I will post my pictures tonight hopefully for all to see.

To all that posted pics already, thanks!! If possible could you guys send me the pics so I can add them to my 4x4 picture book? I am going to blow up the one that Tim took of Cheeseman............I mean Buca driving my truck, Sharon will love that.

I hope Buca wasn't to much of a burden to anyone and really appreciate all of you looking out for him. He loves trucks and always has to go to them, scary.

RockRunner
03-03-2008, 12:20 PM
How was the off-camber slab on Seven Mile Rim?


It SUCKED, I hated it and I did not like it:mad::mad:

Does that tell you anything???? Seriously I do not like off-camber stuff, don't know the limit of my truck yet. I would like to find it sometime with the help of some people and a strap or two. Have to find the angle of no return:o

timmbuck2
03-03-2008, 12:23 PM
Buca was great, no worries. :)

Check out the link to my pics...when you are viewing a pic you can right click and save a version of the pic at 800 x 600 or click the "download this picture" on the right hand side and save a high quality version. There are a couple more good Buca pics driving your rig. :)

The off camber stuff did not bug me too much, but I was in the lowest center of gravity truck...the only time all weekend I had the advantage. :rolleyes:

T



Thanks to Greg and Robbie for setting this up and showing us what and what not to do. I feel far more comfortable in my ability to lead some of the medium type trails as long as I don't get lost. Unfortunately I had to leave before the recovery class but will make it up when the next one is set up.

I will post my pictures tonight hopefully for all to see.

To all that posted pics already, thanks!! If possible could you guys send me the pics so I can add them to my 4x4 picture book? I am going to blow up the one that Tim took of Cheeseman............I mean Buca driving my truck, Sharon will love that.

I hope Buca wasn't to much of a burden to anyone and really appreciate all of you looking out for him. He loves trucks and always has to go to them, scary.

Red_Chili
03-03-2008, 12:39 PM
You and me, Tom... I hate off camber too, with a passion. I have found the angle of no return. Unfortunately, the truck continued past it pretty quickly! The problem is, off road you hit that angle due to so many factors: rocks, dips, throttle, lack of throttle, side slip, you name it. Happens fast and then you are done. Go slow so it won't happen fast, and you can't romp on it to recover.

So I prefer to keep well clear of that point. :eek:

Uncle Ben
03-03-2008, 01:08 PM
http://lh3.google.com/Bruce.Westlund/R8toZ9LwyCI/AAAAAAAABSs/DwnZnzEQ1w0/s144/MOAB_FEB08%20015.jpg

Jethro,
Dude your 80 looks sweet! I haven't seen it since you made it bigger. I'm liking the look of the Short Bus bumper more and more! :thumb::thumb:

RockRunner
03-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Buca was great, no worries. :)

Check out the link to my pics...when you are viewing a pic you can right click and save a version of the pic at 800 x 600 or click the "download this picture" on the right hand side and save a high quality version. There are a couple more good Buca pics driving your rig. :)

The off camber stuff did not bug me too much, but I was in the lowest center of gravity truck...the only time all weekend I had the advantage. :rolleyes:

T

I did and I will, thanks some great shots. Glad to hear my Co-pilot wasn't to much trouble :thumb:

RockRunner
03-03-2008, 01:11 PM
You and me, Tom... I hate off camber too, with a passion. I have found the angle of no return. Unfortunately, the truck continued past it pretty quickly! The problem is, off road you hit that angle due to so many factors: rocks, dips, throttle, lack of throttle, side slip, you name it. Happens fast and then you are done. Go slow so it won't happen fast, and you can't romp on it to recover.

So I prefer to keep well clear of that point. :eek:

I hear you load and clear, I just want to find that seat of the pants feel point so I don't back of to soon or ...............well you know.

Uncle Ben
03-03-2008, 01:19 PM
I hear you load and clear, I just want to find that seat of the pants feel point so I don't back of to soon or ...............well you know.

I don't think anyone likes that feeling! That and dropping straight off something that I know will result in a freefall often give me quite a goosebump thrill! It's such a hrad choice to drive through when your freaked or stop which tends to unload you causing more of a problem than if you just drove. :eek: :eek:

Jethro
03-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Jethro,
Dude your 80 looks sweet! I haven't seen it since you made it bigger. I'm liking the look of the Short Bus bumper more and more!

And I like driving sumping that doesn't leave a trail of parts behind! If things go according to plan, we may see that old 40 again at CM08.

RockRunner
03-03-2008, 02:00 PM
It's such a hard choice to drive through when your freaked or stop which tends to unload you causing more of a problem than if you just drove. :eek: :eek:

Stopping is what was a costly mistake for me this weekend. We were on Cliffhanger and heading back when we came onto the section that is off camber, to the drivers side now. I did not look ahead enough to see the whole trail so when I felt to tippy I decided to back up..........costly mistake.:(

I backed up about two to three feet and all of a sudden I could not go any further. Seems I backed up into Jethro's 80:eek: I had the spare tire on my 4Runner and it only dented my tailgate some and knocked the window of the track. Jethro on the other hand got the worst of it. Broke his (borrowed) Ham antenna and dented his hood pretty good :( I had no clue he was behind me and all I wanted to do is get from rolling, I am sure I wasn't even close but that pants feeling was there and it told me back the heck up now!!

If I would have had more seat time in the truck at angles I would have known that I was OK and could have pushed on. I drove it before what was different now?? No spotter and me not looking ahead on the trail memorizing what I was about to drive over. An expensive lesson to learn but .............:o

timmbuck2
03-03-2008, 02:18 PM
Stopping is what was a costly mistake for me this weekend. We were on Cliffhanger and heading back when we came onto the section that is off camber, to the drivers side now. I did not look ahead enough to see the whole trail so when I felt to tippy I decided to back up..........costly mistake.:(

I backed up about two to three feet and all of a sudden I could not go any further. Seems I backed up into Jethro's 80:eek: I had the spare tire on my 4Runner and it only dented my tailgate some and knocked the window of the track. Jethro on the other hand got the worst of it. Broke his (borrowed) Ham antenna and dented his hood pretty good :( I had no clue he was behind me and all I wanted to do is get from rolling, I am sure I wasn't even close but that pants feeling was there and it told me back the heck up now!!

If I would have had more seat time in the truck at angles I would have known that I was OK and could have pushed on. I drove it before what was different now?? No spotter and me not looking ahead on the trail memorizing what I was about to drive over. An expensive lesson to learn but .............:o


but it sure was fun to get on the cb and yell "beep beep beep" whenever you went into reverse the rest of the weekend!!! :)

leiniesred
03-03-2008, 06:07 PM
I didn't even know this happened! That explains the "BEEP BEEP BEEP" thing, the "I'm backing up" announcements on the radio, the weird dent in Bruce's hood, and the dangling spare on Tom's truck. HUH!

farnhamstj
03-03-2008, 09:27 PM
Looked like a fun weekend. We were busy skiing in the snow that fell during your drive home. Bummer about the crash. But what kind of wheeling trip would it be if nothing broke?

RockRunner
03-04-2008, 08:58 AM
I didn't even know this happened! That explains the "BEEP BEEP BEEP" thing, the "I'm backing up" announcements on the radio, the weird dent in Bruce's hood, and the dangling spare on Tom's truck. HUH!


And then a light went on in Steve's head..........................:lmao:

JK Steve, it was an accident that turned into a fun thing............sort of.

Uncle Ben
03-04-2008, 09:12 AM
OUCH! What a bummer! How bad is the damage? Obviously it happened after the picture I pulled and posted.

timmbuck2
03-04-2008, 09:16 AM
OUCH! What a bummer! How bad is the damage? Obviously it happened after the picture I pulled and posted.

Happened about an hour or so after that pic. I was sleeping on a rock at the time about 10 feet from a several hundred foot dropoff. :o Never said I was the smartest guy out there.....


T

RockRunner
03-04-2008, 10:28 AM
OUCH! What a bummer! How bad is the damage? Obviously it happened after the picture I pulled and posted.

Hood has a nice bump in it and the Ham antenna was broken. On my part I dented the tailgate again, knocked the window of the track and may have broken a mount on the tire holder.:o

I was going to post my pictures last night but Comcast was so nice and decided to work on the cable box outside our yard. No Internet access till later today at home.:mad:

Uncle Ben
03-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Hood has a nice bump in it and the Ham antenna was broken. On my part I dented the tailgate again, knocked the window of the track and may have broken a mount on the tire holder.:o

I was going to post my pictures last night but Comcast was so nice and decided to work on the cable box outside our yard. No Internet access till later today at home.:mad:

Owie! Unfortunely, there is no such thing as a "nice" bump on 80 sheet metal! That will prolly cost more than everything else combined! Sorry to hear that man! Wouldn't it be so handy to get a time rewind button that you could use maybe one or twice a year that would just back up time say maybe 10 minutes? :rolleyes:

RockRunner
03-04-2008, 03:53 PM
UB If you ever come across one of those let me know I will buy it. It was an expensive trip for me with the "little" bump and my own little bump in our cul de sac.

All in all I would go again in a minute, I just wouldn't back up...........Beeeeeep Beeeeeep Beeeeeep Tom Over and out!

PabloCruise
04-17-2008, 05:12 PM
Thanks all for posting these pics - I am jonesing for Moab bad!!!

A question for you all who were just out there:

I will be wheeling Pig this year, no lift, on 31's. The body is very nice as Pigs go, and I want to keep rockers and quarters intact.

Are Wipe Out Hill and Porcopine Rim wise choices for this rig? DOes Wipe Out have a bypass for the actual obstacle?

subzali
04-17-2008, 09:15 PM
Wipeout Hill does not have a bypass.

MDH33
04-17-2008, 10:29 PM
Are Wipe Out Hill and Porcopine Rim wise choices for this rig? DOes Wipe Out have a bypass for the actual obstacle?

Wipeout Hill does not have a bypass.

Also as I posted in the other thread, you'll have no problem running Wipeout in a stockish wagon. It's steeeeeep, but the direct line would be hard to damage your rig on. It's the short wheelbase rigs that you would risk going over the handlebars on. :thumb:

PabloCruise
04-20-2008, 09:12 PM
Also as I posted in the other thread, you'll have no problem running Wipeout in a stockish wagon. It's steeeeeep, but the direct line would be hard to damage your rig on. It's the short wheelbase rigs that you would risk going over the handlebars on. :thumb:

I'm just worried about dragging quarter panels on the direct line. I am wondering about the line off to the left (when looking down hill) as I think it less drop-off.

Is Wipe Out Hill part of another trail? I was trying to look it up in the Wells book and it is not listed as a stand alone trail...