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Romer
03-14-2008, 05:11 PM
Did you come to the Dark Side today?:eek:

nakman
03-14-2008, 08:13 PM
and did you move to the west side yet? :)

Romer
03-14-2008, 08:18 PM
and did you move to the west side yet? :)

Dude, you are south of I-70, you are a southsider:beer:

nakman
03-14-2008, 10:54 PM
Dude, you are south of I-70, you are a southsider:beer:

=if(elev>7500),W,S) :D

Uncle Ben
03-14-2008, 11:45 PM
Dude, you are south of I-70, you are a southsider:beer:

Nak will always be a Northsider....doesn't matter where he lives! :cool: ;) :lmao::hill:

Romer
03-15-2008, 12:07 AM
It's all good

powderpig
03-15-2008, 06:47 AM
So this thread went from trying to find out something from Neil to North South debate. So when are we having the war to end this bickering:hill::beer:

art hog
03-15-2008, 09:32 AM
So this thread went from trying to find out something from Neil to North South debate. So when are we having the war to end this bickering:hill::beer:

Us westies, West of 93 laugh at the on going Im north and your south were breakfast your dinner. I mean come on cant we all just meet in the middle for lunch?

Romer
03-15-2008, 10:54 AM
There we go, a Central Lunch Club

I thought my graphic showed no division that it's all good and all part of the same club. Could have made coffee and beer mugs with it.

Hulk
03-15-2008, 12:10 PM
There we go, a Central Lunch Club

I thought my graphic showed no division that it's all good and all part of the same club. Could have made coffee and beer mugs with it.

Great graphic. I'm lovin' it. :thumb:

Rock Dog
03-16-2008, 02:03 AM
I guess i will find out today the fate of the red 80.... i can definitely say this has not been as smoothe as i would like to have had it.... Story for a different day... Many thanks to Robbie for giving it a shakedown and letting me know how much lighter my wallet will need to get if i go through with it...

And thanks to Ken for letting me drive his rig.... it is simply awsome...

Shark Bait
03-16-2008, 07:18 AM
I guess i will find out today the fate of the red 80....

Yeah! Another member of the red cruiser club. :D

Rock Dog
03-18-2008, 03:55 PM
Its official, I now have a wallet that is so light it acts like it'e filles with helium, and i now own a red "moderately built" FJ80 with Slee bumpers and sliders....

It has one HID bulb and one yellow one. I am sure it look wierd to see this rig coming down the road at night. Need to source new bulbs, and wanted to find out where you 80 owners were getting the LED bulbs for the interior.

Nakman, i am interested to find out about the OBO setup using the York compressor....

Cheers,
Neil.

nuclearlemon
03-18-2008, 04:08 PM
It has one HID bulb and one yellow one. I am sure it look wierd to see this rig coming down the road at night.

Neil.

you need to leave it like that....that way your 80 can annoy people. kinda like the way your runner squeaks:lmao:

nakman
03-18-2008, 04:16 PM
Hey, alright Neil! :woot: LED's for the map and dome lights come from George.. anyone have a link handy? door LED's and other cheapies tend to come from superbrightleds.com.. rear hatch LED's are found at Costco.


You're welcome to stare at my OBA setup any time.. step 1 you already have, step 2 is the bracket- decide if you want to try to fab your own or just buy the one that Slee sells.. but there's of course a newer approach that a friend of Eric V. just did, I will try to remember to find that post tonight and post it up, unless someone beats me to it. But it's a slightly different bracket so you don't have to add a third belt to the water pump, I think he said he was making some.

sleeoffroad
03-18-2008, 04:18 PM
Cool, I think you got a pretty good deal on the truck. We have the York brackets on sale, so have that wallet float over here :D

Romer
03-18-2008, 04:32 PM
Its official, I now have a wallet that is so light it acts like it'e filles with helium,

Thats what having teenagers feels like :D

Congrats man.

Uncle Ben
03-18-2008, 04:58 PM
Thats what having teenagers feels like :D

Congrats man.

NO DOUBT! Trucks are definitely cheaper! :eek: :bawl:

corsair23
03-18-2008, 04:58 PM
Hey, alright Neil! :woot: LED's for the map and dome lights come from George.. anyone have a link handy?


http://www.taskled.com/

Although I think a trip to Treeroot's place should be in order first as I'm pretty sure he has the LED thing down now :D

Congrats on the 80 Neil :thumb:

treerootCO
03-18-2008, 05:09 PM
Congratulations on the 80!

No idea on quality yet or the how long they last but I outfitted all the overhead lighting with the 48 Led SMT Array Cool White @ 24.99 each. They are at least twice as bright as George's Map setup. Available with a 31mm festoon or Ba9 connector.

http://www.root45.com/LED_MADNESS.html

Hulk
03-18-2008, 05:26 PM
http://www.root45.com/LED_MADNESS.html


Dude, that page hurts my eyes.


Congrats, Neil! You're gonna love it.

Hulk
03-18-2008, 05:27 PM
It has one HID bulb and one yellow one. I am sure it look wierd to see this rig coming down the road at night.

HID? Where do you get that? Are those the same as the John Deere bulbs?

Rock Dog
03-18-2008, 05:30 PM
Thanks Everyone!
Need to start getting swag for the new rig.... before reality sets in and i end up spending it all on maintenance like brakes, head gasket, started brushes, ect...

Rock Dog
03-18-2008, 05:34 PM
Alright Treeroot, what with all of these colored LED's i se listed out there....
When people talking about pimping your ride, they do not mean it LITERALLY!!!

Rock Dog
03-18-2008, 05:37 PM
HID? Where do you get that? Are those the same as the John Deere bulbs?

I don't know much about it. That is just what she said when i bought it. The right light is bright white at night, and the left one looks like a yellow light in comparison... I have the burned out bulb, but she said it was too expensive to replace, so they just put in an old stock one on the left...

sleeoffroad
03-18-2008, 05:47 PM
The truck has HID's in it. Proper with ballasts. You need a light bulb to fit. Maybe not the easiest thing to find.

Convert
03-18-2008, 06:43 PM
Congrats Neil on the 80:thumb:

Romer
03-18-2008, 06:56 PM
I have spare stock bulbs if you need one

Shark Bait
03-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Congrats Neil!

I have bulbs from here (http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR) for the door lights. I'd have to go over to MUD to find out exactly which one to order.

Rock Dog
03-18-2008, 11:07 PM
Ken,
where did you get the extra bulbs from. I would like to get 2 of them so i have a spare. Is there a source out there?

Neil.

Rock Dog
03-18-2008, 11:32 PM
Just to be clear i am looking where to find the Bulbs for the HID system... any ideas?

Shark Bait
03-18-2008, 11:44 PM
Just to be clear i am looking where to find the Bulbs for the HID system... any ideas?

See this thread (http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/122662-john-deere-hir-bulbs.html) on John Deere bulbs. These are John Deere part number AH211917. They replace the low beam lights, and are also known as 9012 bulbs.

Looks like you can also get them here: http://www.hirheadlights.com/

Hulk
03-18-2008, 11:47 PM
Just to be clear i am looking where to find the Bulbs for the HID system... any ideas?

I sent you a suggestion via PM.

The John Deere bulbs are HIR, not HID.

corsair23
03-19-2008, 01:27 AM
See this thread (http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/122662-john-deere-hir-bulbs.html) on John Deere bulbs. These are John Deere part number AH211917. They replace the low beam lights, and are also known as 9012 bulbs.

Looks like you can also get them here: http://www.hirheadlights.com/


Also available here HIR on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOSHIBA-HIR-9011-9012-BULBS-THE-BRIGHTEST-AVAILABLE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33710QQihZ008QQitemZ180224466743QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) which I believe is one and the same as hirheadlights.com. IIRC correctly though Chris said he had problems with the HIRs off ebay :confused:

Here is a used single 9012 HIR on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOSHIBA-HIR-9012-HEADLIGHT-BULB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33710QQihZ011QQitemZ320227355553QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

Doesn't help you on the HID bulb issue but in case you decide to revert back people have had good results with the HIR

60wag
03-19-2008, 05:43 AM
Doesn't the truck have a supercharger on it? I don't think you can fit both a York and a supercharger.

Romer
03-19-2008, 07:02 AM
The spare bulbs are stock from when I replaced them with the John Derre Bulbs which I personally prefer to HID.

Shark Bait
03-19-2008, 07:41 AM
Also available here HIR on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOSHIBA-HIR-9011-9012-BULBS-THE-BRIGHTEST-AVAILABLE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33710QQihZ008QQitemZ180224466743QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) which I believe is one and the same as hirheadlights.com. IIRC correctly though Chris said he had problems with the HIRs off ebay :confused:


I'm using the Slee harness. The problem was, the Toshiba 9011 High Beam bulbs must be drawing more current than the relay can handle and burnt away the contacts. I wonder if the stuff from HIR is any different? I need to resolve this, as after a while the relay fails and no high beams. Christo did tell me he's re-designing his harness to use different relays. Not sure if the new relays can retro fitted to the old harness.

corsair23
03-19-2008, 11:00 AM
I'm using the Slee harness. The problem was, the Toshiba 9011 High Beam bulbs must be drawing more current than the relay can handle and burnt away the contacts. I wonder if the stuff from HIR is any different? I need to resolve this, as after a while the relay fails and no high beams. Christo did tell me he's re-designing his harness to use different relays. Not sure if the new relays can retro fitted to the old harness.

Interesting...I have the Slee harness and the HIRs, but as yet I not installed either (go figure). I wonder if I should hold off and wait for the upgraded harness or just forgo putting in the 9011s :confused:. Do you use your brights a lot? I rarely, if ever do...I would be interested in knowing what Christo tells you re: a fix.

Sorry for the hijack Neil but if you revert to HIRs then this might be useful information :hill:

sleeoffroad
03-19-2008, 11:05 AM
We are only changing the harness to take a regular style relay and not the special ones. That will allow us to use a bosch to tyco relay. They will not be included since they are about $6 a piece, but they are better than the generic ones.

We see a lot of bulbs that pull excessive current and damage connectors or relays. Also the mag chloride does not help either.

corsair23
03-19-2008, 11:09 AM
We are only changing the harness to take a regular style relay and not the special ones. That will allow us to use a bosch to tyco relay. They will not be included since they are about $6 a piece, but they are better than the generic ones.

We see a lot of bulbs that pull excessive current and damage connectors or relays. Also the mag chloride does not help either.

So bottom line, don't use the 9011s with your harness Christo? If we do we run the risk of damaging the harness and losing the brights? I'd rather not run my 9011s and be out the cost for those than to damage the harness and have to keep replacing it...

Shark Bait
03-19-2008, 11:27 AM
We are only changing the harness to take a regular style relay and not the special ones. That will allow us to use a bosch to tyco relay. They will not be included since they are about $6 a piece, but they are better than the generic ones.

We see a lot of bulbs that pull excessive current and damage connectors or relays. Also the mag chloride does not help either.

Christo, can I retrofit the harness for the different relays?

So bottom line, don't use the 9011s with your harness Christo? If we do we run the risk of damaging the harness and losing the brights? I'd rather not run my 9011s and be out the cost for those than to damage the harness and have to keep replacing it...

Jeff, It didn't hurt the harness, just the relay. I've replaced it but don't use my brights very often. I have a question in to Daniel Stern about his HIRs vs. the Toshibas. I'll let you all know what he says.

Shark Bait
03-19-2008, 11:37 AM
I heard from Daniel Stern. His HIR 9011s are the same as the Toshibas. I think maybe the new relays Christo is switching to may do the trick.

I asked Daniel about a group buy. He said a group buy would only save us on shipping. Let me know. If there is enough interest we could do a group buy.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Chris Hatfield wrote:

> Do you have 9012 and 9011 HIR bulbs? I was going to put them in my '97 Land Cruiser.

You bet! $23.95/ea on our secure Candlepower website:
http://store.candlepower.com/9011.html
http://store.candlepower.com/9012.html

Instructions for necessary base tab mod:
http://dastern.torque.net/Mods/HIRmod.html

Can also make your sidemarker lights 60% brighter:
http://store.candlepower.com/2886x.html

Your brake lamps 40% brighter:
http://store.candlepower.com/p3496.html

Your front and rear turn signals 40% brighter:
http://store.candlepower.com/p3497.html

Your reversing (back-up) lamps nearly 100% brighter:
http://store.candlepower.com/reli.html

Best DS

sleeoffroad
03-19-2008, 11:45 AM
It is possible to retrofit the sockets. Just a little bit of wiring and buying the new sockets and relays.

I am not sure if Chris's was an isolated issue with the Toshiba's or not. We tend to see the connectors melt more from excessive heat that the relays burning the contacts.

Shark Bait
03-19-2008, 12:20 PM
It is possible to retrofit the sockets. Just a little bit of wiring and buying the new sockets and relays.


OK. Maybe you can help me next time I come by. :D

Romer
03-19-2008, 12:25 PM
I think The John Deere bulbs take less power than stock, but I could be wrong going by memory from a long time ago.

Rock Dog
03-19-2008, 06:58 PM
All of the HID systems seem to run 35W instead of 55W..

The bulbs that came out of the HID system i have are D2S bulbs that i have found online in 4300k, 6000k, 8000k, 10000k, and 12000k... These are basically the heat in ratings in kelvin, which really equate to the color of light they produce.

The big misconception seems to be the higher the Kelvin value, the more light, but the opposite is actually true. The 2 most popular one i see being used are the 6000k and 4300k. The 4300k actually puts out a "whiter light" and the most light.

The 6000k put out a light that has more of a blue tint...
The question i have is which kelvin value lights i have in my rig....

Christo, do you know what may have been used? I would like to buy the same ones, but there is nothing on the Bulb i can see to tell me what they are :(:( Is there some way to determine this ?? Anyone??

you could say i am in the dark when it comes to determining the right light :lmao:

Hulk
03-19-2008, 08:38 PM
How much are they? Buy two and get a matched pair -- replace them both at the same time.

Rock Dog
03-19-2008, 10:37 PM
it varries, about $50-99 a bulb... would kinda like to buy a pair, but that is so i have a spare. Really like the one that is in there and would like to match it.

Uncle Ben
03-20-2008, 07:50 AM
it varries, about $50-99 a bulb... would kinda like to buy a pair, but that is so i have a spare. Really like the one that is in there and would like to match it.

Sorry, no whining! Your a Mall Cruiser owner now which means open that wallet boy! :rolleyes: ;)

Romer
03-20-2008, 07:52 AM
If you send the SC to eaton, let us know what the procedure is, how much and how long.

I have a few years, but it would be nice to know.

sleeoffroad
03-20-2008, 09:54 AM
Christo, do you know what may have been used? I would like to buy the same ones, but there is nothing on the Bulb i can see to tell me what they are :(:( Is there some way to determine this ?? Anyone??


Sorry I do not.

Rock Dog
03-20-2008, 04:00 PM
Sorry, no whining! Your a Mall Cruiser owner now which means open that wallet boy! :rolleyes: ;)

I will open it as soon as i can catch it... It is so light it kinda hovers near the ceiling... Hopefully a short term issue :D:D

Rock Dog
03-20-2008, 04:02 PM
If you send the SC to eaton, let us know what the procedure is, how much and how long.

I have a few years, but it would be nice to know.

Talk to Cruiser Dan, he was the one telling me what to do the other night at your house. We may need to get him to write it down ..

All hail Cruiser Dan :bowdown::bowdown:

Uncle Ben
03-20-2008, 04:35 PM
All hail Cruiser Dan :bowdown::bowdown:


No thanks... :rolleyes: