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Mendocino
05-05-2008, 10:43 PM
As you can see from the attached pics, I have some serious axle leaks. Both sides are leaking as is the pinion seal. I want to order the right replacement parts, but am not sure what to order since this Cruiser is new to me and been heavily modified. I have some paper work from the PO and it appears that there is a Warn “full floater kit” PN 38593 installed with Impala calipers.

So, should I order this (http://www.sor.com/sor/partpict.tam?xax=21615&itemnum%2Ectx=089%2D01A%2DFF%2DUA&itempict%2Ectx=%2E%2E%2Fshared%2Fimage%2F089%2D01A%2DFF%2DUA%2Dbig%2Ejpg&item%2Ectx=089%2D01A%2DFF%2DUA&page%23%2Ectx=089&itemnumdesc%2Ectx=Full%20Floating%20Rear%20Axle%20Gasket%20%26%20Seal%20Kit&catpage%2Ectx=cat089%2Etam%23089%2D01A%2DFF%2DUA&itemnumtext%2Ectx=These%20are%20the%20gaskets%20%26%20seals%20that%20you%20will%20need%20when%20you%20install%20or%20service%20a%20Full%20Floating%20Rear%20Axle%2E%20Kit%20comes%20with%20differential%20gasket%2C%20hub%20gaskets%2C%20both%20axle%20seals%2E%20One%20kit%20does%20both%20sides%2E&pagetitle1%2Ectx=Page%20089&pagetitle2%2Ectx=Rear%20Axle%20Full%20Floating&descriptionpg%2Ectx=Page%20089%20Rear%20Axle%20Full%20Floating)?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated as would alternatives to SOR that are cheaper:cheers:

Uncle Ben
05-06-2008, 12:29 AM
I would assume the axle seals and for sure the pinion seal would be stock Toy. Patronize your supporting Toyota dealers! I bet they will beat SOR's price too! Be sure to check the axle bearings as often they need replacement about the same time as the seals go.

nuclearlemon
05-06-2008, 09:52 AM
axle seals are the same as oem. be careful with the o ring on the dial. they are a pita to get to seal. after talking to warn, i finally just took it out and started using "the right stuff" from permatex. if you need the socket for the spindle nuts, i have one you can borrow.

Mendocino
05-06-2008, 10:00 AM
Thanks guys. :thumb: Ige, how big is the spindle nut? I think I will just buy the socket.

nakman
05-06-2008, 12:58 PM
Spindle nut is 32mm, iirc... you can borrow mine if you can get it back from Martin. :)

I have this set, and I think it's easily worth the $20... http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683 the smaller ones will split if you abuse them, but the bigger ones are pretty beefy. hth..

Uncle Ben
05-06-2008, 01:14 PM
Spindle nut is 32mm, iirc... you can borrow mine if you can get it back from Martin. :)

I have this set, and I think it's easily worth the $20... http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34683 the smaller ones will split if you abuse them, but the bigger ones are pretty beefy. hth..

He has the Warn Full Floater set up in the rear....is that the same spindle nuts?

corsair23
05-06-2008, 04:16 PM
Jeff,

No help on your questions but I have one for you...

I was looking at my shocks (Ranchos) the other day and was sort of surprised by how compressed they appear...Looks just like your picture.

I'm wondering if you've had any problems with up travel limit? Maybe it is just my imagination (as I haven't tested them yet to see) but it seems that if a person were to stuff that wheel into the wheel well the shock would limit the upper travel of axle as opposed to say the bump stop...

Just wondering :D

nuclearlemon
05-06-2008, 05:15 PM
He has the Warn Full Floater set up in the rear....is that the same spindle nuts?

nope, it's the chevy/ford style spindle nut with the 4 notches in the edge. can't remember the size.

LandBruiser
05-06-2008, 07:13 PM
I would also check the axle shaft itself where the seal sits to make sure the surface is not pitted or grooved really bad. Maybe sleeve it if it is.

When I first got mine (2000) they both leaked so bad the rear drums would lock up when stopping and takeoff. Had the Toy dealer replaced both seals and drum brake pads...lasted 6 months. Had someone else do it...lasted a year. Then replaced an axle shaft and it has been good since.

My problem was most likely from water being in the rear diff that caused the pitting on the shaft and the seal would either not sit right or get chewed up. Good luck

Mendocino
05-06-2008, 08:48 PM
Jeff,

I have only had this 40 since November and its been under repair most of the time. As a result, I have had limited time with it off road. So far I have not had any issues but agree that there does not appear to be much travel. These are the cab actuated air shocks, which has been nice.

Cheers,

Jeff

Jeff,

No help on your questions but I have one for you...

I was looking at my shocks (Ranchos) the other day and was sort of surprised by how compressed they appear...Looks just like your picture.

I'm wondering if you've had any problems with up travel limit? Maybe it is just my imagination (as I haven't tested them yet to see) but it seems that if a person were to stuff that wheel into the wheel well the shock would limit the upper travel of axle as opposed to say the bump stop...

Just wondering :D

Mendocino
05-15-2008, 10:33 PM
So, I have this all taken apart and I think that the oil leak is a result of a bad o-ring between the Dana 60 spindle and the fab'ed up FJ40 axle tube (DS). I have had no luck in finding a 2 9/16" ID; 2 3/4" OD o-ring anywhere but McMasters. This has been ordered and I should get them eventually.

In cleaning things up I found *lots* of metal fragments inside the axle tube (about a teaspoon). This rear end was allegedly rebuilt about 8,000 miles ago and in general things look pretty good.

Should I be concerned about the metal shavings?

Rzeppa
05-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Should I be concerned about the metal shavings?

Generally speaking, yes.

Were they pasty (metal dust mixed with 90wt) or shavings (chunks bigger than pieces of ground pepper)?

Were these stuck to the end of a magnetic drain plug or in the bottom of the housing?

Mendocino
05-16-2008, 07:45 AM
These metal "shavings" could stick to a magnet sand are about the size of course ground pepper. They are not from the drian, but ar in the bottom of the driver side axle tube (I have the hub, brake, and pindle removed to fix the leak.:confused: