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Rzeppa
05-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Bring your father! Bring your kids! Let your kids drive =-O

Yes, my son is coming this year and he may drive us - yikes!

I will be leading our ninth annual Father's Day trail ride on Spring Creek Trail on Sunday June 15th. The trail is moderate to difficult. It used to do-able in a stocker with a good driver, but in recent years has become more difficult for a stocker, so 33s and a rear locker are recommended. With a small group, this is a half day trail. This run has become very popular and will probably take longer. As always, the amount of time will depend on our group size, trail traffic and (hopefully not) breakage or mechanical issues. Tools and spares are recommended. We will be in cell phone coverage most of the way, and within hiking distance of civilization.

We will meet at the McDonalds at the El Rancho (Evergreen Parkway) exit of I-70 at 8:00AM and depart at 8:30 AM. We used to start later, but an earlier start may help us avoid too much trail traffic. The trailhead is off the Downieville exit of I-70. We will start on CB channel 4, but if we get stepped on by too many others we will switch to channel 5. Those coming from the west feel free to join up with us as we breeze through Downieville.

The trail starts near Downieville, and ends up either at I-70 in Georgetown or on CO-103 near Chicago Creek, depending on the route out we choose to take. The trail gets progressively more difficult as we go up until we reach the rock garden. The "big obstacle" is the rock garden near the top. There is sort of a winding bypass, but it too is difficult, and has become more so in recent years. There are several interesting obstacles before that, including a steep shelf that might remind you of Moab, some whoop dee doos right after that, a hill where we had a rollover a few years ago, but has a bypass, another dirt hill with no bypass, a difficult rocky hill after a sharp left with no bypass, and then the rock garden. After the rock garden the trail is still difficult until we reach the meadow at the top. After the meadow, it is an easy Subaru-grade drive out on dirt forest roads to either I-70 or CO-103.

Traffic back to Denver has been an issue the last several years, with stop and go on I-70. Last year we discovered how to take the frontage roads all the way from Georgetown to Idaho Springs, where the traffic generally thins out. We will play it by ear (or eyes) and see what route we take home. If we drop down into Georgetown, you can see whether I-70 is clogged with traffic from the switchbacks high above. We figured out a route on the bypass roads last year and can get all the way from Georgetown to Idaho Springs on the side routes.

There were links to reports from previous runs from the old forum, I'll see what I can do to provide some visuals of what to expect. Bring lunch, water (lots), your father, kids, your camera and permagrin. This is always a fun trail and good time.

Links to the last two years from this forum:

2006 7th annual (http://risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=1627&highlight=fathers)

2007 (http://risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=4051&highlight=fathers)

Happy cruisin'!

Hulk
05-13-2008, 11:38 PM
Bring lunch, water (lots), your father, kids, your camera and permagrin.

I got some of that permagrin on me at Spring Creek back in 2001, and it still hasn't washed out. It happens every time. I really should know better by now.

JadeRunner
05-14-2008, 08:17 AM
If you son JJ is coming I may have to join this year. My dad and brother don't like to spend fathers day on Spring Creek. But, perhaps I will step out of the box and bring my kids and Mom (to watch the kids and keep them fed and watered). I'll work on it.

Red_Chili
05-14-2008, 08:40 AM
In.
Who knows, perhaps Forrest will drive the Chili through the Trees?

Uncle Ben
05-14-2008, 08:53 AM
In.
Who knows, perhaps Forrest will drive the Chili through the Trees?

Hmmmmm....."Can't see the Forrest through the trees!" :lmao:

Rzeppa
05-14-2008, 06:25 PM
If you son JJ is coming I may have to join this year. My dad and brother don't like to spend fathers day on Spring Creek. But, perhaps I will step out of the box and bring my kids and Mom (to watch the kids and keep them fed and watered). I'll work on it.

That would be awesome, Scott! You and I did the very first "annual" run and each time you do this run with me your rig is more and more capable. I'm sure your kids and Mom will love it!

Evrgrnmtnman
05-15-2008, 05:07 PM
THERE'S THAT TREE! If I could only cut down one tree in the whole forest it would be that tree! Look forward to doing Spring Creek, it's only a short drive from the house too.

JadeRunner
05-15-2008, 05:57 PM
Well my wife and relatives will be out of town so I'm considering taking my little girls myself. It would be the first real wheelin' trip with them, but I should be able to handle it. It's time to start anyway. I may have to skip the first obstacle at the bottom, I know they would freak out on that one.

Hulk
05-15-2008, 06:05 PM
I'd like to make it, but we'll be leaving for Rubithon the next day.

nakman
05-15-2008, 06:18 PM
I'd like to make it, but we'll be leaving for Rubithon the next day.

i just realized that too... maybe we could still find a way to do part of it, though. Who knows we may have new mods to test out.. :D

JadeRunner
05-15-2008, 11:09 PM
Huh - Wow you guys are going to have a great time at the Rubicon. Wish i could go. Some day soon for me I hope...

You could tackle the bottom first obstacle to get mentally prepared. That would be a nice warm up. It's nice and steep and very easy to get into trouble on.

Rzeppa
05-15-2008, 11:49 PM
It's nice and steep and very easy to get into trouble on.

Don Reece, 2005

J Kimmel
05-16-2008, 07:23 AM
It's time to start anyway. I may have to skip the first obstacle at the bottom, I know they would freak out on that one.

nah, just relax, smile, and pretend its completley normal as you drive right up :) if you act like its a big deal, so will they :)

Red_Chili
05-16-2008, 08:31 AM
I hate that first obstacle, I usually skip it. It's not that hard, but it is hard to see all the erosion damage from folks getting hung up on it. And there is some exposure.

When the sammi flopped, the worst part was when it kept sliding. I had mental pictures of it catching something and starting a tumble down the hill.

Uncle Ben
05-16-2008, 08:35 AM
I hate that first obstacle, I usually skip it. It's not that hard, but it is hard to see all the erosion damage from folks getting hung up on it. And there is some exposure.

When the sammi flopped, the worst part was when it kept sliding. I had mental pictures of it catching something and starting a tumble down the hill.

The trouble with the first obstacle is people try to go as far right as they can to make it easier. The obstacle it self isn't all that tough at all! Shoot the center or slightly left of center and sit back and enjoy the ride!

Evrgrnmtnman
05-16-2008, 08:37 AM
I've been up it several times, but only place I've ever got any damage to the rig.....oh well. Might give it a go again, sometimes it seems easy and other times difficult......

Jacket
05-16-2008, 08:43 AM
I'm supposed to be in Utah that weekend, but I have a potential conflict so if things don't work out for that trip, I'd like to come along on this run.

Uncle Ben
05-16-2008, 08:51 AM
I've been up it several times, but only place I've ever got any damage to the rig.....oh well. Might give it a go again, sometimes it seems easy and other times difficult......

The only time I had issue with that first obstacle was in my 80 right after I went to 35's and hadn't regeared yet. I thought I was going to have to roll back down it as I almost ran out of power to climb it. Engine was at the edge of overcoming the torque converter lock up. Of course now that not an issue in the slightest but that scared the bageebers out of me!

farnhamstj
05-25-2008, 09:52 AM
We're out this year, headed to Minnesota. Have fun.

AxleIke
05-25-2008, 10:06 AM
I may be in for this, we'll see.

FWIW, the first obstacle is different. They've removed the big rock and the stump, and smoothed it out a bit. It isn't very tippy at all on the far right.

I've done it both ways, and it feels much easier now.

Red_Chili
05-27-2008, 08:11 AM
The trouble with the first obstacle is people try to go as far right as they can to make it easier. The obstacle it self isn't all that tough at all! Shoot the center or slightly left of center and sit back and enjoy the ride!
I watched a CJ Springover flop on that very line! He had those funny extendo shackles on four corners though, that had a lot to do with it.

Sounds like that is history now, though!

Evrgrnmtnman
05-27-2008, 10:16 AM
I hate that first obstacle, I usually skip it. It's not that hard, but it is hard to see all the erosion damage from folks getting hung up on it. And there is some exposure.

When the sammi flopped, the worst part was when it kept sliding. I had mental pictures of it catching something and starting a tumble down the hill.

Your not worried about the Chili getting a few scratches are ya?

Red_Chili
05-27-2008, 11:02 AM
Your not worried about the Chili getting a few scratches are ya?
Too late. :lmao:

thenimirra
05-27-2008, 05:44 PM
Does anyone have a seat I might be able to ride in for this one?

Caribou Sandstorm
05-28-2008, 08:20 AM
We are in, see you at McDonald's at 8:00am.

(`._.[xtr3m3]._.)
05-28-2008, 11:01 AM
What do you think about taking a stock 100 w/ factory rear locker + Sliders on this trail?

Red_Chili
05-28-2008, 11:14 AM
You bet.





Bwahaha...


J/K, you'll be fine with careful route selection.

Red_Chili
05-28-2008, 11:15 AM
Does anyone have a seat I might be able to ride in for this one?
If my family bags on me (for Father's Day? SURELY I can get them wheeling for THAT one... ?) you will be more than welcome to ride along.

I'd bet you can assume an open seat will be available!

Rzeppa
05-28-2008, 06:04 PM
._.);75329']What do you think about taking a stock 100 w/ factory rear locker + Sliders on this trail?

Why not your 40?

(`._.[xtr3m3]._.)
05-29-2008, 11:24 AM
I am just starting to build the 100 and I thought this might be a good run to try her out on. Plus I could bring the whole family, being Fathers day and all. Please let me know if you think this would be a bad idea and I will bring the 40. I would hate to jack up the 100 the first time out.

AxleIke
05-29-2008, 11:47 AM
You'll be okay with careful spotting. We took a stock 1987 pick up up there with no damage, open open. Just took a bunch of stacking. With the rear locker, you wouldn't need stacking so much.

Hulk
05-29-2008, 05:23 PM
Does anyone have a seat I might be able to ride in for this one?

Just show up at the McDonald's. There are always open seats. :thumb:

Rzeppa
05-29-2008, 07:43 PM
._.);75442']I am just starting to build the 100 and I thought this might be a good run to try her out on. Plus I could bring the whole family, being Fathers day and all. Please let me know if you think this would be a bad idea and I will bring the 40. I would hate to jack up the 100 the first time out.

It's up to you - I believe a 100 will make it through the trail, can't speak to potential body damage. There are some sections that are tough and will be rocks on steel on the underside, even with a lift a 33s. I've done this trail in a 40 on 31s and open diffs with stock suspension and stock 3 speed gears. I later learned I wasn't supposed to be able to - good driving is essential. Over the last couple years I've learned to spot 100s - they're different than 80s and need to take different lines! Just like the difference between shorty 40s and draggin' wagon 60s, 100s are wider than 80s and are well, different.

I haven't pre-run this trail this year - normally Father's Day is about when the snow drifts clear enough to make it passable at the top. It changes from year to year. Last year the rocky hill climb about 2/3 the way up was much tougher than years past, but the Rock Garden was easier. After the Rock Garden, it is still tough and we had some folks who had some issues.

So there you have it - it's up to you. I think a 100 will make it, but good driving is important. We'll spot you through the tough sections.

thenimirra
06-03-2008, 12:22 PM
Just show up at the McDonald's. There are always open seats. :thumb:

kay! sounds good!

PPFJ60
06-07-2008, 07:15 AM
I would like to make this run with Rising Sun. I am with Colorado Land Cruisers. I live in Divide and will take hwy 67 to 285 to 470 to 70. I am not sure where the meeting location is so any directions from 470 and 70 would be appreciated.

MDH33
06-07-2008, 08:23 AM
I would like to make this run with Rising Sun. I am with Colorado Land Cruisers. I live in Divide and will take hwy 67 to 285 to 470 to 70. I am not sure where the meeting location is so any directions from 470 and 70 would be appreciated.

Cool, welcome!

Off 470, follow 70 West up the hill to the Evergreen Parkway Exit. It will be the third or fourth exit after getting on 70 from 470. The exit ramp curves to the left down a hill. At the stop light at the bottom, go left and the McD's is on the left.

And who are you and what do you drive? ;)

:thumb:

Rzeppa
06-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Cool, welcome!

Off 470, follow 70 West up the hill to the Evergreen Parkway Exit. It will be the third or fourth exit after getting on 70 from 470. The exit ramp curves to the left down a hill. At the stop light at the bottom, go left and the McD's is on the left.

And who are you and what do you drive? ;)

:thumb:

What Martin said...and it's exit 252 on I-70

PPFJ60
06-08-2008, 10:18 AM
I drive an SOA FJ60 that I have been working on for the past 3 years. Attended CM08 which was my first trip to Moab. I have put thousands of miles of trail riding on my Polaris 500 Sportsman ATV since 1996 including running into the Colorado Landcruisers club on the trails. I started running trails in the FJ60 while making modifications and then ran into the Colorado Landcruisers again on the trails and decided to join last December.

Here is a picture of my rig on Kane Creek in Moab.

rover67
06-10-2008, 07:10 AM
90% sure i'll make it, whatever that means. If so I'll have an empty seat :)

JadeRunner
06-10-2008, 08:39 AM
Looks like the trail just opened last weekend with some sold snow hanging around the top still. Looks like good fun. http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=125020

My friend Dan will be riding shotgun with my little girls in the back.

I'm glad were getting an early start. I would expect many groups behind us. I think Kevin's suggestion of airing down in an open parking lot in Downieville to be preferred to the small trailhead.

crn808
06-13-2008, 09:32 AM
Hello all, New to the forum.
I would like to make the trip with you all, I am also looking for a club and some fellow yota fans! Is there trailer parking up there?

Thanks

JadeRunner
06-13-2008, 10:05 AM
Welcome. The parking area at the trailhead is small and limited. People do park trailers there. You could do that if you got there early. You could also find an open parking spot near the burger King in Downieville\I70- to park, which is about a mile from the trailhead. Most people, including us will be coming back down either in Georgetown or near Idaho Springs. Much of the trail is a narrow one lane shelf road so coming back down on a busy Sunday would be problematic.

Evrgrnmtnman
06-13-2008, 10:34 AM
What time is everyone going to be at the trailhead? Since it's the next exit up from me, I'll just meet everyone there.........8:30 or so?

Caribou Sandstorm
06-13-2008, 11:36 AM
Hi father's day runners,

I am out after all.

I mentioned I was in but after was able to get in Rubithon.

Have a great run and a great father's day.

JadeRunner
06-13-2008, 12:00 PM
What time is everyone going to be at the trailhead? Since it's the next exit up from me, I'll just meet everyone there.........8:30 or so?

Hey CJ - look forward to running with you again. We are planning to leave the Mcdonalds at the Evergreen Parkway exit at 8:30 am. Then we have to air down near the trailhead. So I'll let you do the math on the timing.

Evrgrnmtnman
06-13-2008, 04:15 PM
Look forward to wheeling with everybody again. Haven't had the rig out in awhile....Hope to do the Argentine Clean Up later this month.

Rzeppa
06-13-2008, 06:45 PM
Hello all, New to the forum.
I would like to make the trip with you all, I am also looking for a club and some fellow yota fans! Is there trailer parking up there?

Thanks

Hi crn808,

What's your name?

As Scott mentioned we will probably head out from the El Rancho exit of I-70 around 8:30ish, which normally puts us at the trailhead around 9 or so.

A trailer may be problematic as it is not a loop trail. We will either come out at I-70 in Georgetown or on CO 103 near Chicago Creek which leads to I-70 at Idaho Springs. So if you do trailer, you will need to be capable of and legal for highway driving. Happy cruisin'!

JadeRunner
06-13-2008, 10:49 PM
Hi father's day runners,

I am out after all.

I mentioned I was in but after was able to get in Rubithon.

Have a great run and a great father's day.\

The Rubicon will be incredible. Enjoy, and we will catch you on the next run.

Rzeppa
06-14-2008, 10:55 AM
Show of hands? So far, from this thread, PMs and phone calls, I have:

Scott Yoder
Bill Morgan
CJ Bowen
Leif Snapp-cook
Bob Gassert
PPFJ60 (name?)
Marco Capote
crn808 (name?)

Anyone else?

Happy cruisin'!

60wag
06-14-2008, 12:17 PM
Put me down as a maybe.

Bruce

rover67
06-14-2008, 12:40 PM
yep, i'll be there :)

(`._.[xtr3m3]._.)
06-14-2008, 08:25 PM
I will be there, with the 100. I got the sliders installed today. I am still trying to decide if I should take the brushgaurd off the front. Do you think it will hinder me more than protect me?

rover67
06-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Sheba, If you'd like I have a seat open in the 60.

See everybody in the Morn.

Hulk
06-14-2008, 10:48 PM
._.);77234']I will be there, with the 100. I got the sliders installed today. I am still trying to decide if I should take the brushgaurd off the front. Do you think it will hinder me more than protect me?

You know that they call those "damage multipliers," don't you? IMO, I'd remove it.

On the plus side, Spring Creek is not a trail that is super tight with lots of trees, so it will probably be just fine.

Rock Garden in a 100 series? Please take pics. :D

Evrgrnmtnman
06-14-2008, 10:56 PM
See ya'll at the trailhead....................

Sandman
06-14-2008, 11:29 PM
I'll be coming with my two boys, who are 6 and 9.

(`._.[xtr3m3]._.)
06-15-2008, 12:14 AM
I do now. Thanks Matt. "Damage Multiplier" GONE!

You know that they call those "damage multipliers," don't you? IMO, I'd remove it.

On the plus side, Spring Creek is not a trail that is super tight with lots of trees, so it will probably be just fine.

Rock Garden in a 100 series? Please take pics. :D

Rzeppa
06-15-2008, 12:33 AM
._.);77234']I will be there, with the 100. I got the sliders installed today. I am still trying to decide if I should take the brushgaurd off the front. Do you think it will hinder me more than protect me?

It won't make a difference one way or the other. But I got a look at those tires...not sure which is worse, street tires or my worn out M/Ts! Either way you should be fine.

Rzeppa
06-15-2008, 12:37 AM
Rock Garden in a 100 series? Please take pics. :D

I can't remember if it was last year or the year before, but we had a 100 up there and it did just fine. IIRC it had sliders and OME 50mm and yokohamas, a little scraping here and there, but heck, that's what it's all about!

Hulk
06-15-2008, 02:40 AM
You guys have fun. If I wasn't leaving for Rubithon Monday morning, I'd be there!

Rezarf
06-15-2008, 07:19 AM
I will meet you guys in Downieville, so don't wait on me at the other spot! See you soon!

Drew 6:22am