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Uncle Ben
05-22-2008, 12:26 PM
Moved TTT

Uncle Ben
05-22-2008, 12:28 PM
Figured it would be good to plan on food and what meals we are doing as a group and individual. Also, we can decide who's cooking or ????

Romer
05-22-2008, 01:04 PM
Dave - I worked with Tonny Twiddy that we would be one of the first "groups" to leave. I suppose you could stay back. There isn't a caranage. Tony explained to me how they have an order of groups and keep things moving with spotters all along the way so there are no holdups

Uncle Ben
05-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Are we focusing on the group meals in this thread? Something that's always worked out on big group trips, skiing and on bikes, is to divide up meals by groups of people. Just a thought, that way the group part of group run is reinforced. So say Kirsten and I grab a third person and our team makes one night's dinner or/and breakfast.

By my estimation, we are doing as a group (forgetting the Rubithon or Casino provided meals):

Dinner on 6/18, 6/19, 6/20
Breakfast on 6/19, 6/20, 6/22

Although Sunday's breakfast might be skipped in favor of a fast exit. Personally, I'm OK with hanging around and waiting to get out, so the Rising Sun group might split up then, the people who have hard/fast commitments hustle out and the other half enjoy a sunrise cup of coffee and relaxing wait for the carnage of people leaving. If I go first, I'd be the guy clogging the trail and being ruthlessly dragged out of the way. :-)

So I don't mind being responsible for a meal or two. You end up just making more of what you would anyway. On our annual hut trips we typically do stuff like burritos, pancakes, stews and pasta. Plus with all the fridges and dutch ovens, group cooking should be easy enough.


This is the purpose of this thread to get everyone on the same page and ultimately we'll be able to understand our refrigeration/freezer needs too. We will be doing group and individual food planning so this thread will just sort out what we need to plan for. Nothing is set in stone yet and anything can be changed as this thread matures. We can break into smaller groups, no groups or feast. Whatever we do we need to plan as space for cooler space and equipment is limited.

DaveInDenver
05-22-2008, 01:17 PM
Dave - I worked with Tonny Twiddy that we would be one of the first "groups" to leave. I suppose you could stay back. There isn't a caranage. Tony explained to me how they have an order of groups and keep things moving with spotters all along the way so there are no holdups
Okey-dokey. I don't have any particular preference to hustle or wait it out, so I'll do whatever works to keep from screwing up the schedule.

Food: I don't mind fixing up a meal or two for the group if that's the way we go or just providing my stove and tailgate as part of a camp kitchen if we all end up responsible for our own food. I could potentially have up to 3 dutch ovens if we want to go that way, too.

Romer
05-22-2008, 01:26 PM
Is this the thread to see what cooking stuff we have and need? Army surplus has those propane grils real cheap. Don't know if I should get one or if we are full of grills, maybe a flat top grill. Maybe we need to chip in on small propane bottles for the grilles, etc.

Convert
05-22-2008, 02:13 PM
Dad and I will be leaving on Sunday from Buna Vista and will meet up with the group at Robbs on Tuesday. I have a good Coleman grill that I will be taking.
The group meals sound like a good way to go

RockRunner
05-22-2008, 04:06 PM
I can cook a breakfast or dinner. We will need to bring a stove and cookware with us but would prefer not to take to much of it on the trail as we are very small in the storage area.

I have several small propane bottles and may have access to a 5# bottle with a line etc. instead of the big 20# bottles.

We do have a "real" coffee maker that sits on top of a burner and makes about 10 cups just as fast as at home. It will be with us too.

I will be working on packing the 4runner after this trip to see what we can bring and ......

nakman
05-22-2008, 04:22 PM
I have 2 stoves and 2 grills, available to take if necessary. I'm all for the group meal on Monday night, and think that beyond basic cooking appliances that's about as far as we need to get, can't we discuss the rest of the meals on Monday night then stock up in Reno on Tuesday?

DaveInDenver
05-22-2008, 04:29 PM
I have 2 stoves and 2 grills, available to take if necessary. I'm all for the group meal on Monday night, and think that beyond basic cooking appliances that's about as far as we need to get, can't we discuss the rest of the meals on Monday night then stock up in Reno on Tuesday?
Not everyone is gonna be in the caravan and Wendover. I do plan to stock up in route, no way I'm leaving Denver with 11 days worth of food. But it would be nice to have some idea of what to pre-make and what to shop for along the way.

Uncle Ben
05-22-2008, 04:40 PM
When we decide how many group meals we can divide the group into "chefs." Each "chef" group can then be responsible for 1 group meal. Hows that fly?

Uncle Ben
05-22-2008, 10:29 PM
Trouble I forsee with sooo many "group" meals is the effort to make prepare food for 24+ people! How about some more brainstorming folks? 71 views and 12 posts?

nakman
05-22-2008, 11:17 PM
Guys I have reviewed the latest from the spare parts, food, shelter, and other random threads and did my best to get it all into one easy to digest spreadsheet. There are three pages, I hope you agree this is very easy to understand.

Please download, edit, etc., then just post it back up once you've made your changes. If you can just put today's date at the end of the file name, that will help keep revision levels in check. We can reference the latest version of this when we do our unofficial planning meeting next Friday, thanks. :beer:

RockRunner
05-23-2008, 12:45 AM
I guess it all depends on how simple or complicated we want to get. We are eating breakfast burritos for the next 4 mornings in Moab. Premade and frozen we pull one out the night before and heat it in a skillet in the morning. If we keep breakfast simple to 2/3 items and the same for dinner we can do it.

I do agree we need to get more input from some of the others to chime in and either agree or ???? I guess we can wait till the end of the weekend and see what ever people decide.

corsair23
05-23-2008, 02:55 AM
I guess it all depends on how simple or complicated we want to get.

x2

Think of "easy" meals.

Breakfast: eggs, bacon, sausage, hash browns, tortillas, even pancakes.

Dinners: Burgers, dogs, spaghetti (sauce premade and frozen, just heat it up and boil the noodles), etc.

What might be an issue is having enough cooking space and cook ware to make that much food at one time :confused:, especially at breakfast. And bringing that much food in...We have what, at least 2 breakfasts to make while camping? Say we do breakfast burritos on those two days and each person uses 2 eggs per burrito. 24 people x 2 days x 2 eggs per day = 96 eggs...8 dozen eggs and no seconds :eek:

Just thinking logistics here.

Oh, and I have a Coleman stove and a Weber grill (mini size) that use the small propane bottles that can be brought along if needed. Seems to me, for just breakfast, we would need 4-6 stoves going. A couple for eggs, a couple for hash browns, and 1 each for bacon and sausage...

DaveInDenver
05-23-2008, 06:26 AM
Trouble I forsee with sooo many "group" meals is the effort to make prepare food for 24+ people! How about some more brainstorming folks?
That was going through my mind after I suggested it, too. Our biggest hut trip groups are about 16 people and that usually ends up with about 4 'chefs' per meal. It has always worked OK because the 10th Mt Division huts are set up with propane burners and kitchens that can handle it.

As long we stick to stuff that can be done a big scale, it'll work. For example, you can get that egg substitute stuff in 32 ounce cartons. This is the same as about 16 eggs I think. This is usually enough for a hut trip and keep in mind we are traveling with 35 lbs backpacks in the backcountry on skis. If we bring 64 ounces (so 2 Nalgene bottles) of Egg Beaters, I'd bet that would be more than enough for ~25 people.

Maybe chili another night, that's pretty easy to scale up. A BBQ, another possibility. Add a dutch oven rice dish and a cobbler, life is good.

I think the biggest issue to making sure we have enough appliances to handle the group. It wouldn't be fun to try to feed 25 people with an MSR Whisperlite. But 2 or 3 Coleman stoves, that should be fine. My 3 burner with it's griddle can make about 6 pancakes at a time and add a second stove with a pan and we're turning over pancakes and bacon for 2 or 3 people every couple of minutes. I think it'll work fine.

But I'm just throwing out ideas, here.

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 08:06 AM
Guys I have reviewed the latest from the spare parts, food, shelter, and other random threads and did my best to get it all into one easy to digest spreadsheet. There are three pages, I hope you agree this is very easy to understand.

Please download, edit, etc., then just post it back up once you've made your changes. If you can just put today's date at the end of the file name, that will help keep revision levels in check. We can reference the latest version of this when we do our unofficial planning meeting next Friday, thanks. :beer:

Nice work on the spreadsheets Tim! I'm not quite sure why you felt the need for them as it kinda kills the communication/discussion side of things in my opinion. I guess we can continue productive discussion on line and you can document it on the spreadsheets??? I'm just not that smart I guess... :homer:

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 08:13 AM
We might do better at doing "pot luck" strategies. Everyone does a small part in the process. I'm just not sure. Hopefully today we will here from more of the group.

DaveInDenver
05-23-2008, 08:19 AM
We might do better at doing "pot luck" strategies. Everyone does a small part in the process. I'm just not sure. Hopefully today we will here from more of the group.
I like that idea, particularly for dinners. As I sit here and think about that, it seems like a really good idea. The extent of the group planning is then to maybe divide up what sorts of dishes everyone makes to avoid having 5 pies and no main course.

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 08:23 AM
I like that idea, particularly for dinners. As I sit here and think about that, it seems like a really good idea. The extent of the group planning is then to maybe divide up what sorts of dishes everyone makes to avoid having 5 pies and no main course.

Exactly! I just was snooping around and of course when one thinks about domestic expedition type wheeling and great food one club comes to mind right away! Check out this little blurb from NorCal Wagons... (http://tlcwagons.org/Norcal_Wagons/Rules.html)

Romer
05-23-2008, 08:48 AM
Another approach is to to have steak night or brats night and as a group we buy the meat and cook it but everyone is on there own for what they eat with it. Thinking I could bring beans, but then that would require a big pot for 20 people. Still could do so, you asked for ideas and I could go either way

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 09:33 AM
Another approach is to to have steak night or brats night and as a group we buy the meat and cook it but everyone is on there own for what they eat with it. Thinking I could bring beans, but then that would require a big pot for 20 people. Still could do so, you asked for ideas and I could go either way

Very doable! That covers one night...

Caribou Sandstorm
05-23-2008, 09:34 AM
Hi guys,

I am kind of late to the dance but I am getting my FJC ARBbumper w/winch, pro comp lift kit and BFG 33s installed today.

This Rubithon gig is looking very doable.

Do you think there is still room to sign up, or does this fill up fast and probably full?

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 09:46 AM
Hi guys,

I am kind of late to the dance but I am getting my FJC ARBbumper w/winch, pro comp lift kit and BFG 33s installed today.

This Rubithon gig is looking very doable.

Do you think there is still room to sign up, or does this fill up fast and probably full?

Reg deadline is June 1....you still have a couple days! The FJ Cruiser Run will be right behind us on Wednesday. It's also being led by one of our members, Robbie. You got options still....just not a lot of time....

BTW there are other chat threads for Rubithon....this is a food thread.

nakman
05-23-2008, 09:57 AM
I'm all for potluck.. how about Mexican for Monday night? chips, tacos, ground beef, tortillas, fajita meat, cheese, guac, tequilla.. :drool:

DaveInDenver
05-23-2008, 10:00 AM
That seems like a good couple of themes, Mexican one night and a brat night another.

Romer
05-23-2008, 10:18 AM
I am thinking for Monday night after driving 10 hours the last thing I want to do is cook. I was thinking Restaurant that night

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 11:03 AM
I am thinking for Monday night after driving 10 hours the last thing I want to do is cook. I was thinking Restaurant that night


Works for me!

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 11:05 AM
I'm all for potluck.. how about Mexican for Monday night? chips, tacos, ground beef, tortillas, fajita meat, cheese, guac, tequilla.. :drool:

Mexican pot luck might be better for Wednesday night as a lot of that stuff would be easy to cook or heat in the engine bay on the trail!

Caribou Sandstorm
05-23-2008, 11:38 AM
Thanks Kevin,

What is Robbie's Rising Sun handle?

DaveInDenver
05-23-2008, 11:44 AM
What is Robbie's Rising Sun handle?
powderpig

Caribou Sandstorm
05-23-2008, 11:47 AM
Thanks Dave!

DaveInDenver
05-23-2008, 02:35 PM
Now we're talking!

Dutch Oven Prime Rib:
http://www.yotatech.com/f174/dutch-oven-prime-rib-145898/

It would be big bucks, but a 7 rib roast (i.e., a whole rib roast) is usually about 16 lbs, which might do for a hungry group of backcountry dining enthusiasts with some treats for the K9s riding along.

How about a photo to get the taste buds going?

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 02:52 PM
Now we're talking!

Dutch Oven Prime Rib:
http://www.yotatech.com/f174/dutch-oven-prime-rib-145898/

It would be big bucks, but a 7 rib roast (i.e., a whole rib roast) is usually about 16 lbs, which might do for a hungry group of backcountry dining enthusiasts with some treats for the K9s riding along.

How about a photo to get the taste buds going?

mmmmmmmmmmmm....I have a large Dutch Oven too.

Just took time and read that post.......my God that sounds good! We could do 2 of those Friday night!?

Uncle Ben
05-23-2008, 03:07 PM
I wonder if we should casually chat with NorCal and Robbie about Wednesday night at BIL? Just a thought....

DaveInDenver
05-23-2008, 03:19 PM
my God that sounds good! We could do 2 of those Friday night!?
Yeah, my mouth was watering thinking about a nice roast. Two rib roasts would not be cheap, but man would it ever be worth it. If no one else wants to, I'd volunteer to take care of dealing with the roasts at camp since I'm planning on keeping the truck parked in Rubicon Springs and just doing some hiking and drinking beers, relaxing.
I wonder if we should casually chat with NorCal and Robbie about Wednesday night at BIL? Just a thought....
Hooking up with NorCal and FJC groups would be cool, maybe call that the brat night since firing up a grill would be the easiest way to deal with a huge group.

Romer
05-23-2008, 05:05 PM
Andy (Cruiserdrew) told Rachel at CM to not worry about food as they (norcal guys) will be cooking up a ton of food. Since we are camping with them that might be worth checking with them. Those guys have cooking comeptitions and feed an army usually with what they whip up.

mtncrsr
05-24-2008, 08:11 AM
I have 2 stoves and 2 grills, available to take if necessary. I'm all for the group meal on Monday night, and think that beyond basic cooking appliances that's about as far as we need to get, can't we discuss the rest of the meals on Monday night then stock up in Reno on Tuesday?

I have a two burner propane Coleman stove with a grill that I can bring if it is needed. Just let me know.

mtncrsr
05-24-2008, 08:15 AM
Another approach is to to have steak night or brats night and as a group we buy the meat and cook it but everyone is on there own for what they eat with it. Thinking I could bring beans, but then that would require a big pot for 20 people. Still could do so, you asked for ideas and I could go either way

As I have mentioned before, I can bring elk burger, elk sausage and elk steaks on dry ice in my Coleman cooler if that would help with the food.:)

zornff
05-27-2008, 10:07 PM
I can/will bring Carne Asada for mexican night, if thats one of the options. If not, i'm bringing plenty anyway. We will help out anyway we can.
Mike.

Shark Bait
05-27-2008, 10:12 PM
I was thinking I could make a batch of chili or gumbo and freeze it so all we'd have to do is re-heat it. :D

nakman
05-27-2008, 10:39 PM
I really like where this is headed, all the above sounds great. :homer: :drool:

Uncle Ben
05-28-2008, 11:02 PM
Now we're talking!

Dutch Oven Prime Rib:
http://www.yotatech.com/f174/dutch-oven-prime-rib-145898/

It would be big bucks, but a 7 rib roast (i.e., a whole rib roast) is usually about 16 lbs, which might do for a hungry group of backcountry dining enthusiasts with some treats for the K9s riding along.

How about a photo to get the taste buds going?




OMG....made it tonight! Couldn't find a bone in so I bought a 6lb Prime rib roast. ($95:eek:) It was to die for! Unbelievable doesn't do it justice! Took just short of 2 hours and literally dissolved on the tongue! Lori's sister and BIL are here still and we all ooooohed and ahhhhed through dinner! $16 a pound and worth every penny! Just came n from the now extinguished campfire and had to report. I don't see bringing that grade of meat with me but I think I might do something similar for the group dinner! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: :thumb::thumb:

Shark Bait
05-28-2008, 11:17 PM
So good it was worthy of a double post. :D

Shark Bait
05-28-2008, 11:19 PM
I really like where this is headed, all the above sounds great. :homer: :drool:

I am happy to make something and freeze it. But I'm thinking Monday night I may be just as happy to eat out and crash. What other night might a reheated chili be good, Tuesday?

DaveInDenver
05-29-2008, 06:34 AM
So good it was worthy of a double post. :D
The meat was so good, he still shaking and double clicked the mouse.

I figured a prime rib roast would be expensive, so wonder how a pot roast might do instead? I've heard of some pretty good recipes for pot roast, although the season is usually different (onions instead of garlic, etc).

Uncle Ben
05-29-2008, 07:29 AM
That was funny! I don't think I did anything differant when I posted that. You guys were too kind! :lmao::lmao: :rolleyes:

Uncle Ben
05-29-2008, 07:34 AM
The meat was so good, he still shaking and double clicked the mouse.

I figured a prime rib roast would be expensive, so wonder how a pot roast might do instead? I've heard of some pretty good recipes for pot roast, although the season is usually different (onions instead of garlic, etc).

I want to try a pot roast with taters, carrots, etc.... As juicy and perfectly done that Prime Rib was I would bet other things would work just as well! That was the first thing besides deserts that I ever dutch ovened. I'm sure the old hats/scout masters here that read this posts are totally :rolleyes: at me but who cares....old dog has learned a new trick!

DaveInDenver
05-29-2008, 08:14 AM
I want to try a pot roast with taters, carrots, etc.... As juicy and perfectly done that Prime Rib was I would bet other things would work just as well! That was the first thing besides deserts that I ever dutch ovened. I'm sure the old hats/scout masters here that read this posts are totally :rolleyes: at me but who cares....old dog has learned a new trick!
We've done a few things, chicken-n-rice, a salmon dish, stew and chili. Just about anything can be done in a dutch oven that can be done with a real oven or Crock pot at home. The main problem we have is getting the times right when converting from a regular recipe (although fairly close on Crock pot recipes to the high temp cook time). I think cooking up a couple of good sized pot roasts with onions, carrots, etc. would be a much more reasonable meal.

nakman
05-29-2008, 09:27 AM
I too have a dutch oven we could use for this, if needed, NIB.

And no surprise but for the more random meals we're planning on a steady diet of corn dogs & burritos on the engine pretty much all week... and not the corn dogs that are still in there from Moab, no fresh ones baby.

Convert
06-01-2008, 08:17 PM
At this point I am figuring on steaks(2) and a side dish for one group meal, cafeteria style and I will also make up a batch of crayfish and sausage gumbo that can be combined with some other dishes for a group meal

Convert
06-01-2008, 08:18 PM
I have a Dutch oven also How many do we need ?

Uncle Ben
06-02-2008, 03:42 PM
OK....whew....what a weekend/week..... I'm ready to get back on the horse now! From talking to some of you and reading threads it sounds like we should do one group pot luck on Thursday night. As for breakfasts....what ya wanna do...ad lib?

Uncle Ben
06-02-2008, 03:47 PM
Monday, 6/16
Breakfast

Lunch

Dinner - Wendover, NV

Tuesday, 6/17,
Breakfast - Wendover, NV

Lunch - Reno, NV

Dinner - Loon Lake, CA

Wednesday, 6/18
Breakfast - Loon Lake, CA

Lunch
Individual

Dinner - Buck Island Lake, CA
Individual

Thursday, 6/19
Breakfast - BIL, CA
Group


Lunch
Individual

Dinner - Rubicon Springs, CA
Group

Friday, 6/20
Breakfast - Rubicon Springs
Group

Lunch -RS
Individual

Dinner - RS
Individual

Saturday, 6/21
Breakfast - Rubicon Springs, CA
Provided

Lunch - RS
Individual[

Dinner - RS
Provided

Sunday, 6/22
Breakfast - RS or Lake Tahoe
Individual

Lunch

Dinner - Wendover, NV?

Monday, 6/23
Breakfast - Wendover, NV?

Lunch

Dinner - Home!

Shark Bait
06-02-2008, 04:06 PM
OK....whew....what a weekend/week..... I'm ready to get back on the horse now! From talking to some of you and reading threads it sounds like we should do one group pot luck on Thursday night. As for breakfasts....what ya wanna do...ad lib?

Some of this depends on how much cleaning up is going to be practical. I make a pretty good breakfast burrito and would be happy to make enough for several of us at least one morning. Is cleaning up going to be a PITA? I'll be bringing water. And will bring cleaning supplies. Or should I just plan on cereal and disposable plates, bowls and cutlery?

Uncle Ben
06-02-2008, 04:21 PM
Some of this depends on how much cleaning up is going to be practical. I make a pretty good breakfast burrito and would be happy to make enough for several of us at least one morning. Is cleaning up going to be a PITA? I'll be bringing water. And will bring cleaning supplies. Or should I just plan on cereal and disposable plates, bowls and cutlery?

I, for one, can't do sugar (without protein) in the morning. I love it but I crash about 2-3 hours afterwards.... :rolleyes:

Hulk
06-02-2008, 04:24 PM
I, for one, can't do sugar (without protein) in the morning. I love it but I crash about 2-3 hours afterwards.... :rolleyes:

I'm in the same boat. I'll be cooking scrambled eggs most mornings.

Uncle Ben
06-02-2008, 04:38 PM
Maybe we just don't do a formal group breakfast and do it typical group camping style. If ya don't like what someones cooking or if they don't have enough then either sniff out someone else's or starting cooking up your own. Often breakfast quantities are bountiful. I think I'll bring my 20 cup perk coffee pot and small burner so if your in need come grab a cup and if you are a French Press kinda guy I'm sure someone can accommodate... Now a tough question.....regular roast or dark roast? Treeroot might have some tricks up his sleeve too...we'll have to be on the look out.

DaveInDenver
06-02-2008, 04:50 PM
Maybe we just don't do a formal group breakfast and do it typical group camping style. If ya don't like what someones cooking or if they don't have enough then either sniff out someone else's or starting cooking up your own. Often breakfast quantities are bountiful. I think I'll bring my 20 cup perk coffee pot and small burner so if your in need come grab a cup and if you are a French Press kinda guy I'm sure someone can accommodate... Now a tough question.....regular roast or dark roast? Treeroot might have some tricks up his sleeve too...we'll have to be on the look out.
I will have my press with me and have decent coffee.

FWIW, I'm still bringing the 3-burner stove and griddle, so I can basically make endless pancakes or support burritos for about half a dozen people no problem. Let me know if you want to group up for a breakfast or two and I will be sure to bring enough. I usually do chorizo, Egg Beaters, cheese and salsa for the burritos. We'll have probably a ton of pancake mix along, which we can use up on the return leg if it doesn't get used at Rubithon.

Uncle Ben
06-02-2008, 07:03 PM
I will have my press with me and have decent coffee.

FWIW, I'm still bringing the 3-burner stove and griddle, so I can basically make endless pancakes or support burritos for about half a dozen people no problem. Let me know if you want to group up for a breakfast or two and I will be sure to bring enough. I usually do chorizo, Egg Beaters, cheese and salsa for the burritos. We'll have probably a ton of pancake mix along, which we can use up on the return leg if it doesn't get used at Rubithon.

Mmmmmmmmmmm....you are talking pretty sexy there big boy! Me likey breakfast!

Shark Bait
06-02-2008, 07:09 PM
I will have my press with me and have decent coffee.

FWIW, I'm still bringing the 3-burner stove and griddle, so I can basically make endless pancakes or support burritos for about half a dozen people no problem. Let me know if you want to group up for a breakfast or two and I will be sure to bring enough. I usually do chorizo, Egg Beaters, cheese and salsa for the burritos. We'll have probably a ton of pancake mix along, which we can use up on the return leg if it doesn't get used at Rubithon.

I'm in for that. Can we add some Hatch chilis? We can buy some of this in Reno, right? I have a couple of boxes of Kodiak Cakes mix I could donate to the cause. :D

So, do I bring my 2-burner Coleman stove or not? Sounds like you guys have it covered. LMK.

DaveInDenver
06-02-2008, 09:28 PM
We bring along a couple cans of chilies as a backup and keep an eye for fresh stuff along the route.

As far as stoves, I absolutely expected to share the appliances, but a 3 burner stove won't support all 25+ of us. I can serve reasonably 6 to 8, 10 depending on the meal. More than that and it gets tough to keep stuff warm. I've sort of assumed stove-wise that you need about one burner per 2~3 people, so if we're 30 total we really need about 8~10 burners. So we should lock down who is bringing a stove.

DaveInDenver - 3 burner
Shark Bait - 2 burner
Hulk - 3 burner

Hulk
06-03-2008, 12:32 AM
I have 2 two-burners and three-burner. That's 7 burners. All Coleman. I need to do some work on the 3-burner to get it back at full speed. Dave, how much of an expert are you on these stoves?

Shark Bait
06-03-2008, 12:45 AM
Here's what mine looks like:

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/07/65/01/22/0007650122146_500X500.jpg

DaveInDenver
06-03-2008, 06:16 AM
I have 2 two-burners and three-burner. That's 7 burners. All Coleman. I need to do some work on the 3-burner to get it back at full speed. Dave, how much of an expert are you on these stoves?
They are simple, if you can change your oil you can fix Coleman stoves. What's wrong with it? I'll put you down for the 3 burner, unless you want to drag 2 stoves with you.

mtncrsr
06-03-2008, 08:17 AM
I have a two burner Coleman propane stove with a griddle that I would be glad to bring if it is needed. Just let me know otherwise I will leave it home.

Uncle Ben
06-10-2008, 12:13 PM
So....getting down to the wire and menus need to be planned. Have we decided that "yes" we will do a group meal thang on Friday night? If so is there a theme? 7 of our 11 attendees have posted something relavant and Romer is mooching Norcals food but I really don't see a plan per sei.

corsair23
06-10-2008, 12:22 PM
I've asked the wife to whip up a batch of her spaghetti sauce that I plan to freeze and bring along...Simple meal: reheat the sauce, boils the noodles, and voila :D

How many folks would be interested in having spaghetti Wed, Thurs, or Fri night? We could combine this with other stuff for a group dinner.

DaveInDenver
06-10-2008, 12:56 PM
So....getting down to the wire and menus need to be planned. Have we decided that "yes" we will do a group meal thang on Friday night? If so is there a theme? 7 of our 11 attendees have posted something relavant and Romer is mooching Norcals food but I really don't see a plan per sei.
Mooching NorCal or individual Wednesday at Buck Island, right? I'd be down for getting in on the NorCal dinner if that's an option.

So RS group options are Thursday and/or Firday dinner. What about a potluck theme night(s)? A couple of options that come to mind are chili night, Mexican food night, Italian night.

We are going to sit down and make up a shopping list Wednesday.

Right now I am planning on some larger than just us groups for Thursday and Friday breakfasts. If that's a RS size group or just a few extra people, makes no matter to me other than how much pancake mix and burrito stuff to bring.

Convert
06-10-2008, 01:49 PM
Pot luck sounds good. Iv'e got a big batch of seafood gumbo that I made Sunday.Also have a 2 steaks and a large side dish for a 2nd night

nakman
06-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Ok so based on the above, I'm going to leave at least one stove behind. I will still take two grills though, enough to cook 12-16 burgers simultaneously... and all my stuff runs off of those green gans so I'll pick up a few more of those as well, for the communal gas needs.

Looks like we have three group dinner opportunities, agreed?: Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.. I vote we do potlucks for all three, with themes being "meatfest," "Mexican," and "Italian." We can do these on any night, based on how we feel.

Meatfest: your basic steak, burger, brat, hot dog, buns, Ruffles®, ranch dip, etc.

Mexican (South of the Boulder night): Convert's gumbo, queso, tortilla chips, salsa, guac, tacos, burritos, fajitas, flautas, tamales, chili...

Italian: Mama Corsair's special sauce, ravioli, noodles, bread, lasagna...

So if you guys are down with that, then prepare something for all three nights... and then if you go mooch off of Norcal just leave us your dish and we'll take care of cooking and eating it.

DaveInDenver
06-10-2008, 02:43 PM
Mexican: Convert's gumbo, queso, tortilla chips, salsa, guac, tacos, burritos, fajitas, flautas, tamales, chili...
Loosely defining Mexico? Could call it Gulf of Mexico Night, though. Whatever, it sounds fine to me, though.

nakman
06-10-2008, 02:54 PM
Oh yeah.. ok let's call it "South of the Border" night then referring to the city of Boulder's border, obviously. so anything goes.. :)

i'll edit the deal above.



And I'm in for some steaks for Meat night, some spicy chicken for SOB night, and garlic bread & some ravioli for Italian night. Plus random chips, drinks, etc. We just need to decide by lunch time or so what night's Italian night so I can put the bread in the oven.

DaveInDenver
06-10-2008, 03:11 PM
Oh yeah.. ok let's call it "South of the Border" night then referring to the city of Boulder's border, obviously. so anything goes.. :)

i'll edit the deal above.
I thought it was funny. 'South of the Boulder Night', that's a really good one.

Uncle Ben
06-10-2008, 03:27 PM
I like it! Mmmmmmmmm Maybe I should take my crockpot then and make some killer pork green chili for South of Boulder night! I will procure some Benders Itallian sausages for Italian night and I am still considering a Dutch Oven roast which would be perfect for meat night! For coolers I am using my fridge for a freezer and I just bought the big whoopin' 140qt 6 day cooler from Costco that will have the important stuff like beverages and veggies and ICE! I took out the second row seats so that cooler will be within arms reach of the driver and co-pilot at all times. Any requests for movies? I scored a nice DLP Sharp projector on E-bay so we can have movie night too....might have to bring the Wii also so we can have some heated bowling or tennis competitions! ;) :lmao::lmao::lmao::flamingo::hill:

nakman
06-10-2008, 03:36 PM
Sounds good, :kevin:! Do you have Team America: World Police? I'd love to watch that one again, and couldn't think of a more inappropriate bunch to share that with than you guys..

Uncle Ben
06-10-2008, 03:53 PM
Sounds good, :kevin:! Do you have Team America: World Police? I'd love to watch that one again, and couldn't think of a more inappropriate bunch to share that with than you guys..

Hmmm....no....don't have it. :rolleyes:

Hulk
06-10-2008, 04:55 PM
That Team America movie is awesome. We could also bring some Jackass movies. :D

I actually have a movie screen in my storage space -- might be a real hassle to bring along though. Maybe a sheet?

I have No Country For Old Men on Blu-Ray Disc -- anyone have a laptop that can play Blu-Ray??

nakman
06-10-2008, 05:04 PM
Yes, let's just bring a sheet and string it up between two trucks, or trees, etc. So Matt do you have Team America? Maybe we could rent it from a McDonalds in Reno or something, I'm not too sure how that works though.

And as you all post about movies, please remember to include the three "theme nights" and what you will bring:

Meat night:
SOB night:
Italian night:

Uncle Ben
06-10-2008, 05:16 PM
That Team America movie is awesome. We could also bring some Jackass movies. :D

I actually have a movie screen in my storage space -- might be a real hassle to bring along though. Maybe a sheet?

I have No Country For Old Men on Blu-Ray Disc -- anyone have a laptop that can play Blu-Ray??

I've got NC4OM on widescreen standard. I have lotsa moves + today I picked up "Jumper" and "Bucket List." I was planning on just using a oversized King sheet for a screen.

Hulk
06-10-2008, 05:20 PM
So Matt do you have Team America? Maybe we could rent it from a McDonalds in Reno or something, I'm not too sure how that works though.

They ain't no way McDonald's is going to allow Team America to be rented on-site. Besides, it's too old now. I'd buy a copy, but I've been trying to prohibit myself from buying non-Blu-Ray DVDs since I purchased a player in December.

We need to move the movie stuff to a new thread and keep this one focused on food. Tim, your 3 themed dinner nights is a brilliant plan!

Uncle Ben
06-10-2008, 05:25 PM
They ain't no way McDonald's is going to allow Team America to be rented on-site. Besides, it's too old now. I'd buy a copy, but I've been trying to prohibit myself from buying non-Blu-Ray DVDs since I purchased a player in December.

We need to move the movie stuff to a new thread and keep this one focused on food. Tim, your 3 themed dinner nights is a brilliant plan!

Agreed! One last hijack on movies I'll say is lets not get carried away with too many choices....lots of things to do besides watching movies. Besides, the group 31 Deka is amazing but asking it to run a blender, fridge and show more than 2 hours of a movie is really pushing it without running the engine! :rolleyes:

nakman
06-10-2008, 05:30 PM
Agreed! One last hijack on movies I'll say is lets not get carried away with too many choices....lots of things to do besides watching movies. Besides, the group 31 Deka is amazing but asking it to run a blender, fridge and show more than 2 hours of a movie is really pushing it without running the engine! :rolleyes:

Isn't that why we're bringing all this gas?? :rolleyes:

ok, on with the food.. .

corsair23
06-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Team America: World Police?

I have it if you'd all like me to bring it :)

EDIT: sorry for a late hijack :hill:

Uncle Ben
06-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Isn't that why we're bringing all this gas?? :rolleyes:

ok, on with the food.. .


I'm just trying to keep the 300hp generator run time to a minimum.... :rolleyes:

Convert
06-10-2008, 08:13 PM
Looks like we made some progress today, sorry I was a bit busy at work today!Were in for Meat night ,SOB night and I will look at the other one and figure it out:thumb:

Crash
06-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Cheeseman/Leatherface are in for the group dinners and will bring associated fixings for each of the three nights. Will also bring propane cannisters to share and stuff for group breakfasts also.

Convert
06-11-2008, 09:05 PM
Alright got the Italian night figured I'll be bringing some cold pasta salad dish and some sausage to contribute to the cause. Also bringing some breakfast items for RS breakfast. I will have a grill,2 burner stove and extra propane

Shark Bait
06-12-2008, 12:08 AM
As promised I'm making a big batch of chili. Not quite sure where that fits in. What can I bring for Friday Italian besides some wine?

Rock Dog
06-12-2008, 01:38 AM
so if i read this correctly, we have Meatfest (steaks, buffalo burgers), Mexican (stuff smothered in green chili) , and italian (pasta dejour) to bring stuff for as Group dinners, and Breakfast burrito stuff for mornings (extra chorizo, eggs, potatoes and more green Chili's), we are doing individual lunch stuff, and everyone will have 3 or so cases of beer to suppliment any nutritional needs that may be missing.....

Chris and i plan to do have some burritos and his awsome chilli already made up, and do some shopping out there to fill in any gaps.

For water we normally plan for 1 gal of water per person per day... Does that sound about right.

DaveInDenver
06-12-2008, 06:33 AM
Yup, 1 gallon of water per person per day is what we do.

Chili, that seems like a South of the Boulder day.

Remember, beer is not just for breakfast anymore, it's perfectly acceptable any time of the day.

mtncrsr
06-12-2008, 12:33 PM
I will bring some elk steaks and elk burger for the meat night, tamales for the SOB night and garlic bread for the Italian night.

DaveInDenver
06-13-2008, 09:12 AM
Speaking of potlucks, probably doing dutch oven meals for those. Any idea if charcoal fires are kosher or not? I will have a fire pan under the oven, but are there fire restrictions out there? I hear there's a drought going on in California.

Uncle Ben
06-13-2008, 09:19 AM
Speaking of potlucks, probably doing dutch oven meals for those. Any idea if charcoal fires are kosher or not? I will have a fire pan under the oven, but are there fire restrictions out there? I hear there's a drought going on in California.

I have asked. Charcoal is considered an open fire and requires a permit. Rubicon Springs is privately owned so permission from the caretaker is required. No idea if fire ban is on or not at this time. There is a ranger station near Ice House Resort where permits can be obtained. I was considering doing a choice Rib Roast for meat night. Not sure if it's worth the hassle now.

DaveInDenver
06-13-2008, 09:28 AM
I have asked. Charcoal is considered an open fire and requires a permit. Rubicon Springs is privately owned so permission from the caretaker is required. No idea if fire ban is on or not at this time. There is a ranger station near Ice House Resort where permits can be obtained. I was considering doing a choice Rib Roast for meat night. Not sure if it's worth the hassle now.
Hmmm, interesting. If it's gonna be a PITA, dragging the dutch oven and the charcoal starter might not be worth the trouble. We were planning on dutch oven meals for meat night, South of Boulder night and probably Italian night.

Uncle Ben
06-13-2008, 11:57 AM
Hmmm, interesting. If it's gonna be a PITA, dragging the dutch oven and the charcoal starter might not be worth the trouble. We were planning on dutch oven meals for meat night, South of Boulder night and probably Italian night.

I was too but I think I'll do crock pot instead.

DaveInDenver
06-13-2008, 12:07 PM
I was too but I think I'll do crock pot instead.
Makes sense, but not equipped for that sort of thing. Guess we'll have to get that permit. Crossing fingers that there's no fire ban. Oh, man, we're not gonna be there in time to get a permit I bet. Gawd I hate Kalifornia. Who needs a permit for friggin' dutch oven cooking?

Uncle Ben
06-13-2008, 12:12 PM
Makes sense, but not equipped for that sort of thing. Guess we'll have to get that permit. Crossing fingers that there's no fire ban. Oh, man, we're not gonna be there in time to get a permit I bet. Gawd I hate Kalifornia. Who needs a permit for friggin' dutch oven cooking?


I hear you sir! And for others reading this thread also remember Kali rules make it a felony to carry a firearm in your vehicle if it is accessible at all by the driver or passenger while driving! Concealed carry rules from other states are worthless too in the Republic of Kalifruity! Hijack over.

DaveInDenver
06-13-2008, 12:20 PM
I hear you sir! And for others reading this thread also remember Kali rules make it a felony to carry a firearm in your vehicle if it is accessible at all by the driver or passenger while driving! Concealed carry rules from other states are worthless too in the Republic of Kalifruity! Hijack over.
The weapon must also be stowed separate from the ammunition.

Convert
06-13-2008, 08:05 PM
I will get the scoop on fire permits and pick our group one up if there are no restrictions. We will be going through Georgetown Tuesday on our way to Robb's .

DaveInDenver
06-13-2008, 09:41 PM
I'm progressing with the assumption we can use the dutch oven, crossing fingers.

No restrictions at this point. The page is far from current, though.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/conditions/fire-restrictions/index.shtml

Down in the Tahoe NF there are no restrictions and their page is current.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/tahoe/fire/index.shtml

Romer
06-14-2008, 01:46 PM
So trying to figure out what to bring for these group nights

Is this main course, side dish or is it everyone bring there own with that theme and make twice as much as you need and then share that

Meat night is easy, Brats and beans

Mexican night Tacos

Italian night, hmmmm not sure here

Romer
06-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Another clarification on the group dinners. I am assuming for example on Meat night I might make twice as many brats and beans then I would eat and then share the other. I would think Making a pot luck dish for 23 people on the trail would be difficult.

Shark Bait
06-14-2008, 04:04 PM
Italian night I'm bringing some wine, some frozen meatballs and some Parmesan cheese.

DaveInDenver
06-14-2008, 06:12 PM
Another clarification on the group dinners. I am assuming for example on Meat night I might make twice as many brats and beans then I would eat and then share the other. I would think Making a pot luck dish for 23 people on the trail would be difficult.
Pretty much the plan I think. Make a little extra and share whatcha got.

Tch2fly
06-14-2008, 06:17 PM
OK let me know if I offbase but here is my plan.

My son and I eat light breakfast, so we will be on our own.
Lunches on our own.

Meat night: Main dish for my son and myself with side dishes to share; asparagus and green beans and brownies for desert

SOB night: Fajitas w/fixens to share, homemade cookies for desert


Italian night Mini Italian sausage sandwiches to share, brownies for desert (hopefully some left ;) )

Ok I misread an earlier post, thought the order of meals had been decided (the actual days don't matter to me)
I will have a propane grill, a skillet and a single burner stovetop.

Uncle Ben
06-14-2008, 09:15 PM
Meat night appears to have become Wednesday night. That works out since it's a long day the roast w potatoes and carrots in the crock pot should be pretty darn tender! Counting on someone doing green chili for SOB night as we just have burritos. Have lot's of Itallian sausage for Italian Friday night. Is someone making a big batch of 'scetti or do we need to bring noodles and sauce??

Hulk
06-14-2008, 09:20 PM
We'll be cooking up spaghetti. :)

Romer
06-14-2008, 10:43 PM
Meat night we have brats and Beans - 4 extra brats and lots of beans

Mexican night, we have Tacos

Italian - Chicken Parm (grilled style)

I have a big jar of 505 Green Chile, want me to bring it?

corsair23
06-14-2008, 11:52 PM
We'll be cooking up spaghetti. :)

Yep :thumb:

Speaking of which...Matt, you got a pan in the stuff you're bringing big enough to boil a bunch of noodles and heat up the sauce?

Shark Bait
06-15-2008, 12:06 AM
I'm bringing a 3 qt. sautee pan and an omlete pan. Not enough to boil water, though. You guys could heat your red sauce in it if you want. :p:

Hulk
06-15-2008, 12:22 AM
Yep :thumb:

Speaking of which...Matt, you got a pan in the stuff you're bringing big enough to boil a bunch of noodles and heat up the sauce?

Yes sir, I have a big-ass pot. Just add noodles.

Shark Bait
06-15-2008, 12:29 AM
Yes sir, I have a big-ass pot. Just add noodles.

You guys bringing sauce?

corsair23
06-15-2008, 12:35 AM
You guys bringing sauce?

Sauce? We don't need no stinking sauce. REAL men eat their noodles dry, and cold :D

Oh alright...yeah, we're bringing the sauce. The wife is making up a batch in the morning (my Father's Day present :thumb:) that I plan to freeze. Got to keep the :beer: cold somehow, right? :cool:

Uncle Ben
06-15-2008, 12:59 AM
BTW....on meat night Wednesday the roast is a 6# tip roast so there will be plenty for the hungry!

Shark Bait
06-15-2008, 10:55 AM
I'm bringing Italian sausage, too. Enough for everyone. :D

Crash
06-15-2008, 11:46 AM
Chicken ravioli, brats and pork tenderloin, green chili, beans, tortillas, tequila etc. etc. etc.

Uncle Ben
06-15-2008, 12:10 PM
I'm bringing Italian sausage, too. Enough for everyone. :D

Should have plenty then as we have enough for most everyone also! :lmao:

nakman
06-15-2008, 02:12 PM
We've got a couple dozen chicken wings marinating now for SOB night.. and a few steaks for meat night. We'll shop for Italian night in Reno, based on what we're missing..

And I am bringing BOTH OF MY GRILLS- so I hope they get used more than once, as I plan on using someone else's burner stoves :)