View Full Version : The OHV hearings...

06-10-2008, 09:30 AM
Damaging lands "even when they're not riding". Hmmm. If that isn't an anti-access way of putting it I don't know what is.

Bold type added by moi. Have to say, I rather like Mr. Bingaman.

BLM lags in plans for off-road vehicle use

By FAITH BREMNER * Tribune Washington Bureau * June 6, 2008

WASHINGTON - The number of off-road vehicles using federal public lands
has soared in recent years, but the Bureau of Land Management told
senators Thursday it needs another 10 years to complete local plans that
regulate when and where all-terrain vehicles can be operated.

"That's a long time," said Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee
Chairman Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M. "I would say BLM needs more resources to
get done sooner."

During an oversight hearing, BLM Deputy Director Henri Bisson said it
takes time to work with all the special interest groups to create the
travel management plans.

The plans are supposed to protect environmentally sensitive areas,
wildlife and important cultural and archaeological sites. The plans also
are supposed to address disputes that arise between hikers and bird
watchers and people who use dirt bikes, snowmobiles and other ATVs.

The BLM manages 258 million acres of public land, located mostly west of
the Mississippi. The U.S. Forest Service, in contrast, will complete
travel plans for the 193 million acres it manages by December 2009. Both
agencies started their travel management planning programs in 2005.

"We're doing the best we can with the resources we have," Bisson said.

Bingaman encouraged the agencies to continue to partner with private
nonprofit groups to maintain and police trails and to work out more
agreements with local sheriffs to patrol heavily used areas.

In the meantime, off-road vehicle users are damaging lands, even when
they're not riding, said Jayne Belnap, a research ecologist with the
U.S. Geological Survey. Erosion and blowing dust along ATV trails lands
in streams and is destroying water quality, especially late in the year,
Belnap said.

"One thing we are seeing, because of current climate conditions and
other things, the (off-road) use now is having a much more profound
impact than it did 10 years ago," Belnap said. "Given future conditions
predicted, it's going to be worse. We have drought predicted for the
next 30 years."

According to the Motorcycle Industry Council, annual sales of new ATVs
rose from 278,000 in 1995 to 748,000 in 2006.

Greg Mumm, executive director of the BlueRibbon Coalition, an advocacy
group for off-road enthusiasts, said his members want the BLM and Forest
Service to make managing recreation their top priority. Off-roaders are
willing to accept reasonable restrictions and are participating in
travel management plan efforts across the country, said Mumm, who lives
in Rapid City, S.D.

"However, the BlueRibbon Coalition is very concerned that ... it appears
there is an underlying drive from certain anti-access groups to
eliminate (off-highway vehicle) recreation on most public lands," Mumm

06-10-2008, 10:33 AM

Below is the link to the archived webcast of Senate OHV Hearing

COHVCO was referenced several times. Jerry worked to provide info to the
AMA and BRC for this. Ed Moreland (AMA) and Greg Mumm (BRC) did a great

You can toggle the Real Player to move directly to when Ed
starts his testimony at about 1:08 (1 hour, 8 minutes) into the webcast
and Mumm starts about 1:15.

COHVCO TIGeR Teams are mentioned at 1:12

http://energy. (http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=ca2e6111-befb-b64a-8a55-3945b88b484e)senate.gov/ (http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=ca2e6111-befb-b64a-8a55-3945b88b484e)public/index. (http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=ca2e6111-befb-b64a-8a55-3945b88b484e)cfm?Fuseaction= (http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=ca2e6111-befb-b64a-8a55-3945b88b484e)Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=ca2e6111-befb-b64a-8a55-3945b88b484e (http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=ca2e6111-befb-b64a-8a55-3945b88b484e)

You can also get copies of testimony as well.

Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Coalition (COHVCO)
'Protecting Our OHV Access'

06-10-2008, 12:49 PM
thanks for posting that, Bill.

There's so much focus on OHV's, the resulting erosion, noise, etc. Why is there never a discussion about the effects of the extractive industries. Mining, oil and gas, logging. These practices close off more land that could be used for recreation and cause a lot more serious damage to the environment. Are OHV users a target because we have less money and no lobbyists? :(

06-10-2008, 12:55 PM
I think to a certain extent people realize that if there's no mining or oil extraction/discovery then we're going to freeze in the dark, as it were...;)

06-10-2008, 01:34 PM
Are OHV users a target because we have less money and no lobbyists? :(
We are certainly easy targets... but we do have some sway if you are a member of Blue Ribbon, U4WDA, etc.

06-10-2008, 02:49 PM
I think to a certain extent people realize that if there's no mining or oil extraction/discovery then we're going to freeze in the dark, as it were...;)
Just as a 'for instance':
The outer continental shelf is estimated to contain 600 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas resources and 100 billion barrels of oil. That is about enough natural gas to heat 100 million homes and enough oil to replace Middle East imports for quite some time at current usage levels.

So to say drilling is not at least part of the solution is to ignore this - but agreed, it is only part.

Another important piece, which was voted down today in the Senate, is requiring oil speculators to put up more collateral in the energy futures markets to curb speculation. That is a major part of what has been driving oil prices upward. This requirement was part of Harry Reid's proposed bill, some of which I agree with, some I do not. Surely this part is not controversial?

06-10-2008, 03:09 PM
Since this is diverging to chat...
Let's take it here. (http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?p=76668#post76668)