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FJBen
06-16-2008, 11:56 AM
Ok, so I have this winch sitting on my floor. Tested it last night and we have power. Has 150' of cable in really good shape. Basically only needs cleanup and a little love (one broken bolt) to get her happy again

Anyone have any thoughts on this winch on an 80? I know it will take some fab to make it fit, but a guy on mud put the same basic winch on his ARB bumper.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/86153-arb-bull-bar-ramsey-re12000-fitment.html

It's this version
http://www.ramsey.com/winches/re8000.html
http://www.ramsey.com/img2/winches/red/re8000.jpg

Here's a comparison with it and an M8274. I'm wondering if it's like the old winches, where it's actually truly rated. Seems somewhat comparable to the 8274 rather than the speed. THoughts?

Model: Ramsey RE8000......................Model: Warn M8274
Gear reduction ratio: 360:1................Gear reduction ratio: 134:1
Motor: 1.9 hp, series wound...............Motor: 2.5 hp, series wound
Gear train: worm gear.......................Gear train: spur gear
Weight: 115 lb.................................Weight: 110 lb.

Line Pull....Line Speed.Current............Line Pull...Line Speed..Current
...(lb).......(ft/min).....(amps)................(lb).........(ft/min)...(amps)
===================================================
...0............15..........73.....................0..............52..........68
2000..........7.5.........155.................2000............19.........172
4000..........5.5.........215.................4000............12.........268
6000...........4...........285.................6000............8..........360
8000...........3...........345.................8000............3..........435

subzali
06-16-2008, 01:06 PM
I don't have an 80, but it seems to me that an 8000# winch is a little light-duty for an 80. 3 ft/min is durn slow...and I know a few guys in the club have needed every bit of their 12000# winches to get them out of stuff...but then again I'm a web wheeler... :rolleyes: (someone want to quote that?) :D

Squishy!
06-16-2008, 01:08 PM
I'd have to agree with that. I know that even Mini truck guys run an 8000 min

FJBen
06-16-2008, 01:22 PM
The only reason I ask, is that this is a much different type winch then the standard 8000lb that most people are familiar with. ie M8000 It's worm gear driven not planetary. They are very strong and reliable, but slow.

ARB makes a bumper for the 80 series that fits the 8274.

This winch and the 8274 BOTH pull 3ft/min at 8000lbs. The 8274 is obviously faster on other pulls, but from what I've heard, these RE8000's are comparable. The RE8000 sell at $1000, so I'm thinking they are a little better than the $550 Warn M8000.

Red_Chili
06-16-2008, 01:31 PM
For reference, I run a 9000 lb. winch on the Chili. And have needed every bit of it.

subzali
06-16-2008, 01:53 PM
True that at 8000# the pull is the same, but how often are you going to be reaching that capacity? With a lightweight 40 that's going to come less often than with an 80, that already, sitting there, weighs between 5 and 6000#. Not to mention getting it stuck, then all the sudden I can see you would easily exceed the 8000# rating. But it depends on what your intentions are when you're out wheeling (are you anticipating needing it or is it just a safety precaution), and whether you have/can make use of a snatch block. Just sayin'

FWIW I powered out my 8274 on a single line pull on Cliffhanger, trying to drag the truck straight up the ledges at the entrance were giving it a workout. Had to double line pull it to get myself out.

Squishy!
06-16-2008, 02:51 PM
the worst thing would be to get stuck and not have a way of getting yourself out (ask me how I know, i don't even have a winch right now... :doh:) but if your winch proves to be underpowered in just the wrong situation it could be frustrating and not to mention you'll be buying the bigger winch anyway.

FJBen
06-16-2008, 03:29 PM
Good points, I'll probably just clean her up nicely and sell her to get me a bigger winch.

I have a mounting bracket for it to fit on an FJ40. What would a good/fair condition winch go for? Cable in really good shape.

subzali
06-16-2008, 03:40 PM
I would start at 70-80% of retail and see if that's reasonable...I don't know how old it is, how much it's been used, etc.

gahi
06-16-2008, 03:43 PM
These winches are awesome workhorses. I have one, and I rigged another one up on an old truck to use for logging for a guy I used to work with. We abused that thing bad, and it is still going strong. I have mine set up in a little cage so I can use it for whatever is needed, I rig it with chains. I dont know how long these have been in production, but I've seen them around for a long time. I've used mine to pull my '93 Dodge W250 out of the mud, it weighs 7,000 lbs empty.

Squishy!
06-16-2008, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=FJBen;77386]Good points, I'll probably just clean her up nicely and sell her to get me a bigger winch. [QUOTE]

I'd be happy to help you out with that problem. :D

FJBen
06-16-2008, 04:57 PM
[QUOTE=FJBen;77386]Good points, I'll probably just clean her up nicely and sell her to get me a bigger winch.QUOTE]

I'd be happy to help you out with that problem. :D

ORLY?

Well that just might work then :D

Squishy!
06-16-2008, 05:10 PM
mmhmm. most definately. :woot:

FJBen
06-16-2008, 06:07 PM
mmhmm. most definately. :woot:

Cool, I just need to check and make sure the winch I'm looking at will be available still :D then I'll get this cleaned up. I need to figure out a price too :D

Red_Chili
06-17-2008, 08:05 AM
It would be quite adequate for Squishy's featherweight.

FJBen
06-17-2008, 11:34 AM
I started cleaning her up last night. We pulled the cable off, and on the very last rolls the cable has never been pulled out. :D She's cleaning up nicely.

I'll try and get some pics tonight.

Squishy!
06-17-2008, 02:29 PM
Hey man that's awesome! :bowdown: I've been holding out on buying one hoping someone would be upgrading or something. Thx!

FJBen
06-17-2008, 02:39 PM
Hey man that's awesome! :bowdown: I've been holding out on buying one hoping someone would be upgrading or something. Thx!

Cool, sounds like it might work. I'd run it, but it's a bit small for the 80 and the mounting I'm not real happy with. I think it has like 125-150' of 3/8" cable :eek: My friends had 5\16" and it was bigger than that so who knows.

The plastic cover over the solenoids was cracked so I ordered a new one, should be here in the next day or two.

Squishy!
06-17-2008, 02:40 PM
Cool cool

FJBen
06-18-2008, 12:31 PM
here's a crappy pic from my cell phone. It will look much better when it's cleaned up/painted for sure.

Squishy!
06-18-2008, 01:24 PM
ok this more old school than I thought, but a winch is a winch! :)

FJBen
06-18-2008, 03:16 PM
ok this more old school than I thought, but a winch is a winch! :)

It's identical to the new shiny one I posted up. This is a picture of the backside of it. I also don't have the cover to the solenoids on so it looks a little frankenstein. I scraped/cleaned off the paint that was flaking.

Give her a few days, she'll look all nice clean ;)

Squishy!
06-18-2008, 04:28 PM
ohkee dokee

Vitesse_6
06-18-2008, 10:44 PM
FWIW, I had a Ramsey RE10,000 on an old truck, It was a great winch, Like it has been said, Its slow, However the nice thing about the winch is the length of the cable, As usual, Just make sure you carry a snatch block.
Dont worry, We have all needed every bit of pulling power out of our winches.

Here is a pic from Last years Outlaw Run with Perry and Daniel.
It took a 12K with a snatch block as well as my 8K to free this vehicle, Oh and quite a bit of digging :)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/1471387790_e2ac636aa4_b.jpg

Good luck with your winch!

FJBen
06-20-2008, 09:17 AM
Cool, I keep hearing that it's a pretty good winch for sure.

Here's some updated "cleaner" pics of it.